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It's shocking at the downfall Embiid has experienced over the past year. First, fans became aware that he was picking & choosing which games to play in to pad his stats, then playing in the Olympics on the stacked USA team instead of Cameroon/France and potentially further damaging his knee, and now all these leaks are coming out about what type of entitled mindset and lack of leadership he has. This would be an epic documentary to basically teach other generational talents how *not* to behave.
I think the only way he can recover from this, reputation-wise, is to step back from chasing individual awards and take a step back with his offense but pick up his defensive effort and work on humbling himself and improving his leadership because when you have the young bucks calling him out and his biggest takeaway is "finding the rat", that's an indictment on him.
With that said, I don't think Philly should be testing the market with him. They'll never get fair value for a top 5 (if healthy) player even with all his warts. You just hope he grows up a bit and starts to see the "bigger picture".
I think the only way he can recover from this, reputation-wise, is to step back from chasing individual awards and take a step back with his offense but pick up his defensive effort and work on humbling himself and improving his leadership because when you have the young bucks calling him out and his biggest takeaway is "finding the rat", that's an indictment on him.
With that said, I don't think Philly should be testing the market with him. They'll never get fair value for a top 5 (if healthy) player even with all his warts. You just hope he grows up a bit and starts to see the "bigger picture".
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the only guy on my ignore list is going to get banned from Sixers forums for needlessly bumping an old thread. what a treat.
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Its always great to get unsolicited bad faith takes from other fan bases.
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I don't come in 'bad faith', I just come with the facts. Here's an interesting video highlighting how Embiid's professionalism has been questioned throughout the league and within the 76ers organization.
https://www.youtube.com/live/VYkg5iayACo?si=TvY71uyZokrBfktD&t=125
https://www.youtube.com/live/VYkg5iayACo?si=TvY71uyZokrBfktD&t=125
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Philadelphia 76ers Public Relations Department (Satire)
Date: November 26, 2024
Subject: A Call for Unity: Support Joel Embiid or Risk Losing Him
Philadelphia, PA – As the Philadelphia 76ers continue their pursuit of excellence this season, we feel compelled to address a growing concern among our dedicated fanbase regarding the treatment of our star player, Joel Embiid. It has come to our attention that some fans have been vocal in their criticism of Embiid's performance. While we appreciate the passion that our fans bring to the Wells Fargo Center, we must stress that such negativity can have unintended consequences.
The Impact of Fan Sentiment
Historically, the Philadelphia sports environment has seen beloved players like Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson face similar scrutiny. Both Hall of Famers were at times driven away by fan discontent, despite their immense contributions to the franchise. Barkley, a two-time NBA MVP, left Philadelphia amidst a wave of criticism that overshadowed his accomplishments. Similarly, Iverson, known for his tenacity and skill, also felt the pressure from an impatient fanbase during his tenure.
We urge our fans to remember that Joel Embiid is not just a player; he is a cornerstone of our franchise and embodies the spirit of Philadelphia basketball. His commitment to the team is unwavering, but if the negativity persists, we risk losing him to the very forces that drove away legends in the past.
A Call for Support
We ask all fans to rally behind Joel and show him the support he deserves. Constructive feedback is welcome, but it is crucial that we foster an environment where our players feel valued and appreciated. The 76ers organization believes in Embiid's potential to lead us to championship glory, and with your support, we can ensure he remains a vital part of our future.
In conclusion, let us unite as a community and show Joel Embiid that he is cherished in Philadelphia. Together, we can create an atmosphere that encourages greatness rather than drives it away.
For further inquiries or comments, please contact the 76ers PR Department.
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Philadelphia 76ers Public Relations Department (Satire)
Date: November 26, 2024
Subject: A Call for Unity: Support Joel Embiid or Risk Losing Him
Philadelphia, PA – As the Philadelphia 76ers continue their pursuit of excellence this season, we feel compelled to address a growing concern among our dedicated fanbase regarding the treatment of our star player, Joel Embiid. It has come to our attention that some fans have been vocal in their criticism of Embiid's performance. While we appreciate the passion that our fans bring to the Wells Fargo Center, we must stress that such negativity can have unintended consequences.
The Impact of Fan Sentiment
Historically, the Philadelphia sports environment has seen beloved players like Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson face similar scrutiny. Both Hall of Famers were at times driven away by fan discontent, despite their immense contributions to the franchise. Barkley, a two-time NBA MVP, left Philadelphia amidst a wave of criticism that overshadowed his accomplishments. Similarly, Iverson, known for his tenacity and skill, also felt the pressure from an impatient fanbase during his tenure.
We urge our fans to remember that Joel Embiid is not just a player; he is a cornerstone of our franchise and embodies the spirit of Philadelphia basketball. His commitment to the team is unwavering, but if the negativity persists, we risk losing him to the very forces that drove away legends in the past.
A Call for Support
We ask all fans to rally behind Joel and show him the support he deserves. Constructive feedback is welcome, but it is crucial that we foster an environment where our players feel valued and appreciated. The 76ers organization believes in Embiid's potential to lead us to championship glory, and with your support, we can ensure he remains a vital part of our future.
In conclusion, let us unite as a community and show Joel Embiid that he is cherished in Philadelphia. Together, we can create an atmosphere that encourages greatness rather than drives it away.
For further inquiries or comments, please contact the 76ers PR Department.
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Always sayed last season that it was dumb to take the short term approach with his knee treatment to have him available for the Playoffs.
It was a transiton year anyways and even with a 100% Embiid we didn't have the ammo to beat Boston. To make things worst, he wasnt even at 80% , we lost in the 1st round and looks like his knee got damaged long term.
This year we have a much better team but we can't get Embiid healthy. Great.
It was a transiton year anyways and even with a 100% Embiid we didn't have the ammo to beat Boston. To make things worst, he wasnt even at 80% , we lost in the 1st round and looks like his knee got damaged long term.
This year we have a much better team but we can't get Embiid healthy. Great.
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I wonder how his knee reacted to yesterday's game. I have a feeling the brace on his knee is bigger and bigger every time he steps on the floor. 

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elchengue20 wrote:Always sayed last year that it was dumb to take the short term approach with his knee treatment to have him available for the Playoffs.
It was a transiton year anyways and even with a 100% Embiid we didn't have the ammo to beat Boston. To make things worst, he wasnt even at 80% , we lost in the 1st round and looks like his knee got damaged long term.
This year we have a much better team but we can't get Embiid healthy. Great.
Meniscus repair might not have been possible, and this might have been the only cholice. It's only possible if it's in a certain part of the menisci where there is good bloodflow.
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eyeatoma wrote:elchengue20 wrote:Always sayed last year that it was dumb to take the short term approach with his knee treatment to have him available for the Playoffs.
It was a transiton year anyways and even with a 100% Embiid we didn't have the ammo to beat Boston. To make things worst, he wasnt even at 80% , we lost in the 1st round and looks like his knee got damaged long term.
This year we have a much better team but we can't get Embiid healthy. Great.
Meniscus repair might not have been possible, and this might have been the only cholice. It's only possible if it's in a certain part of the menisci where there is good bloodflow.
Even still many recommend just not taking that route of removal of the ligament. They gave him extra time compared to like KAT who had the procedure and came back better than ever. I know he played the Olympics, but there was plenty of rest before and after. May just be a scar tissue thing that can be best treated by either shutting him down or waiting until the next early playoff exit
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Meniscus is cartilage not a ligament. If you don't cut the tear it causes swelling, fluid build up and pain. He basically had no choice. If he was lucky it was repairable. The timeline says it was not. The bigger issue was rushing him and then the Olympics.M2J wrote:eyeatoma wrote:elchengue20 wrote:Always sayed last year that it was dumb to take the short term approach with his knee treatment to have him available for the Playoffs.
It was a transiton year anyways and even with a 100% Embiid we didn't have the ammo to beat Boston. To make things worst, he wasnt even at 80% , we lost in the 1st round and looks like his knee got damaged long term.
This year we have a much better team but we can't get Embiid healthy. Great.
Meniscus repair might not have been possible, and this might have been the only cholice. It's only possible if it's in a certain part of the menisci where there is good bloodflow.
Even still many recommend just not taking that route of removal of the ligament. They gave him extra time compared to like KAT who had the procedure and came back better than ever. I know he played the Olympics, but there was plenty of rest before and after. May just be a scar tissue thing that can be best treated by either shutting him down or waiting until the next early playoff exit
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eyeatoma wrote:Meniscus is cartilage not a ligament. If you don't cut the tear it causes swelling, fluid build up and pain. He basically had no choice. If he was lucky it was repairable. The timeline says it was not. The bigger issue was rushing him and then the Olympics.M2J wrote:eyeatoma wrote:
Meniscus repair might not have been possible, and this might have been the only cholice. It's only possible if it's in a certain part of the menisci where there is good bloodflow.
Even still many recommend just not taking that route of removal of the ligament. They gave him extra time compared to like KAT who had the procedure and came back better than ever. I know he played the Olympics, but there was plenty of rest before and after. May just be a scar tissue thing that can be best treated by either shutting him down or waiting until the next early playoff exit
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Misspoke but again KAT did have a similar meniscus injury and repair and came back great. He had the injury weeks after Joel and was back around the same time to the WCF. Maybe the previous 1 Joel has back in like 2016 made this more of a liability, but maybe they have some plan to push through this and perhaps correct it
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M2J wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Meniscus is cartilage not a ligament. If you don't cut the tear it causes swelling, fluid build up and pain. He basically had no choice. If he was lucky it was repairable. The timeline says it was not. The bigger issue was rushing him and then the Olympics.M2J wrote:
Even still many recommend just not taking that route of removal of the ligament. They gave him extra time compared to like KAT who had the procedure and came back better than ever. I know he played the Olympics, but there was plenty of rest before and after. May just be a scar tissue thing that can be best treated by either shutting him down or waiting until the next early playoff exit
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Misspoke but again KAT did have a similar meniscus injury and repair and came back great. He had the injury weeks after Joel and was back around the same time to the WCF. Maybe the previous 1 Joel has back in like 2016 made this more of a liability, but maybe they have some plan to push through this and perhaps correct it
Yeah, he's had multiple mensicus injurys, so he probably has none left. Worst case scenario they had to take it all out. This is what I fear and wonder, given how much swelling there is. The video by that youtube doctor does a really good job explaining it. He was moving well during the last game. If he can do that 80% of the time this team still has a shot. As usual, the Sixers shoot themselves in the foot with the worst PR in the world. Part of that is Embiid's problem as he doesn't want it revealed, but the fallout is horrible for his image. Just admit your hurt, people will give you some empathy.
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eyeatoma wrote:M2J wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Meniscus is cartilage not a ligament. If you don't cut the tear it causes swelling, fluid build up and pain. He basically had no choice. If he was lucky it was repairable. The timeline says it was not. The bigger issue was rushing him and then the Olympics.
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Misspoke but again KAT did have a similar meniscus injury and repair and came back great. He had the injury weeks after Joel and was back around the same time to the WCF. Maybe the previous 1 Joel has back in like 2016 made this more of a liability, but maybe they have some plan to push through this and perhaps correct it
Yeah, he's had multiple mensicus injurys, so he probably has none left. Worst case scenario they had to take it all out. This is what I fear and wonder, given how much swelling there is. The video by that youtube doctor does a really good job explaining it. He was moving well during the last game. If he can do that 80% of the time this team still has a shot. As usual, the Sixers shoot themselves in the foot with the worst PR in the world. Part of that is Embiid's problem as he doesn't want it revealed, but the fallout is horrible for his image. Just admit your hurt, people will give you some empathy.
Definitely has to be Joel with the secrets and it doesn't help him.
Also that YouTube doctor predicted the procedure had to be a trimming of the meniscus rather than removal, which is what I was referring to earlier. A removal would've put him out for last season timeline wise. So they likely trimmed a little more and may need to do it again or potentially remove it.
This is similar to Kawhi who had meniscus surgery in 2023. Played his most games in years and was dealing with swelling and did a 2nd procedure this summer that he's recovering from.
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Any word on Joel's face yet?
Please don't bring him back this year, Sixers. Just tank.
Make sure to ask PG if he wouldn't rather get traded back to the West Coast (Warriors).
Please don't bring him back this year, Sixers. Just tank.
Make sure to ask PG if he wouldn't rather get traded back to the West Coast (Warriors).
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the_process wrote:Any word on Joel's face yet?
Please don't bring him back this year, Sixers. Just tank.
Make sure to ask PG if he wouldn't rather get traded back to the West Coast (Warriors).
Sinus fracture. SHOULDN'T miss much time per Dr. Sutterer online MD....but probably will miss my Christmas day game
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It would be like a breath of fresh air if Joel just asked for a trade.
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Philadelphia 76ers Public Relations Press Release [Satire]
Title: "Your Job as a Fan: Cheer and Clap – The 76ers Know Best"
Philadelphia, PA – December 16, 2024
At the Philadelphia 76ers, we know our fans are passionate, dedicated, and deeply invested in the team's success. But we also know one important thing: when it comes to running this team, we have the expertise. The hundreds—nay, thousands—of professionals behind the scenes at the 76ers franchise, from our head office staff to our world-class training team, know exactly what they're doing. And guess what? You, the fan, are not in charge.
That's right, folks. While we appreciate your enthusiasm, we’re here to remind you that your role is simple: to cheer, clap, and offer unwavering support—no matter what. When the team is firing on all cylinders, you cheer. When things look less than stellar, you still cheer. You see, the heart of a true 76ers fan is not about questioning our decisions or second-guessing our moves—it’s about standing by the team, come what may.
"The Experts Know Best, Period"
Let’s be clear, fans: you're not the ones who spent years studying the intricacies of basketball strategy, the salary cap, or the fine art of player development. The front office, the coaching staff, and every member of the 76ers organization have spent decades honing their craft. When it comes to making moves, trades, or even not making moves, trust us—we know what we're doing.
That trade you didn’t understand? Yeah, we saw the long-term picture. The free-agent signing you thought was a "reach"? Wait until it all makes sense by March. Remember, you’re not here to be a GM. You’re here to do what you do best: root for the team and make noise when we tell you to.
"We’re the Boss, You’re the Cheerleader"
While we value the spirited enthusiasm of our fanbase, it’s important to reiterate: You’re not the boss of the Philadelphia 76ers. You may sit in the stands, but you are not in the executive suite. Your job is not to sit there and analyze every shot, every pass, or every decision like you’ve got a better understanding of basketball than the men and women in charge. No, your responsibility is far simpler.
You cheer when the players hit the court, you clap when they make a good play, and when things go wrong, you still cheer—because let’s face it, fans are supposed to be supportive. Not critical. Not judgmental. Supportive. If a player misses a shot, don’t fret! Clap louder. If the game slips away in the final minutes, just stand up and clap like the true Philadelphia fan you are. A true fan doesn’t get bogged down by details.
"Negative Nellies Will Not Be Tolerated"
Let’s be blunt: If you can’t handle the heat, you’re welcome to stay home. Anyone caught voicing negative opinions about the team, the players, or any of the brilliant decisions made by the 76ers’ front office will be escorted out of the stadium. There will be zero tolerance for negativity. We are running a positive environment here, people. We’ve built something amazing with our team, and the last thing we need is a bunch of armchair critics bringing down the energy.
So, when you're at the Wells Fargo Center, remember your place: You're here to show your support. A fan's primary duty is to create a positive atmosphere, cheer without hesitation, and never, ever question our brilliance. Criticism of the team, whether audible or in writing, will not be tolerated. If you must voice dissatisfaction, please leave. We’ll be sure to keep your seat warm for someone who understands their role.
"We Appreciate Your Loyalty – Now, Be the Best Fan You Can Be"
We understand that sometimes things won’t go as planned. There may be losses. There may be moments where you don’t fully grasp the direction of the team. But in those moments, remember this: we’re building for the future. We have a vision. You may not always understand it, but we do.
As the Philadelphia 76ers move forward, your continued support and enthusiastic clapping are the lifeblood of our team. You are not here to coach, to critique, or to think you know better. You’re here to cheer, to clap, and to help us show the world that Philadelphia is the loudest, proudest, and most loyal fanbase in basketball.
In conclusion, thank you for your commitment to the team. Your dedication to support us—no matter how we perform—is what makes you a true 76ers fan. Now, let’s get out there, make noise, and remember: it’s not about us listening to you, it’s about you listening to us.
Go Sixers!
Title: "Your Job as a Fan: Cheer and Clap – The 76ers Know Best"
Philadelphia, PA – December 16, 2024
At the Philadelphia 76ers, we know our fans are passionate, dedicated, and deeply invested in the team's success. But we also know one important thing: when it comes to running this team, we have the expertise. The hundreds—nay, thousands—of professionals behind the scenes at the 76ers franchise, from our head office staff to our world-class training team, know exactly what they're doing. And guess what? You, the fan, are not in charge.
That's right, folks. While we appreciate your enthusiasm, we’re here to remind you that your role is simple: to cheer, clap, and offer unwavering support—no matter what. When the team is firing on all cylinders, you cheer. When things look less than stellar, you still cheer. You see, the heart of a true 76ers fan is not about questioning our decisions or second-guessing our moves—it’s about standing by the team, come what may.
"The Experts Know Best, Period"
Let’s be clear, fans: you're not the ones who spent years studying the intricacies of basketball strategy, the salary cap, or the fine art of player development. The front office, the coaching staff, and every member of the 76ers organization have spent decades honing their craft. When it comes to making moves, trades, or even not making moves, trust us—we know what we're doing.
That trade you didn’t understand? Yeah, we saw the long-term picture. The free-agent signing you thought was a "reach"? Wait until it all makes sense by March. Remember, you’re not here to be a GM. You’re here to do what you do best: root for the team and make noise when we tell you to.
"We’re the Boss, You’re the Cheerleader"
While we value the spirited enthusiasm of our fanbase, it’s important to reiterate: You’re not the boss of the Philadelphia 76ers. You may sit in the stands, but you are not in the executive suite. Your job is not to sit there and analyze every shot, every pass, or every decision like you’ve got a better understanding of basketball than the men and women in charge. No, your responsibility is far simpler.
You cheer when the players hit the court, you clap when they make a good play, and when things go wrong, you still cheer—because let’s face it, fans are supposed to be supportive. Not critical. Not judgmental. Supportive. If a player misses a shot, don’t fret! Clap louder. If the game slips away in the final minutes, just stand up and clap like the true Philadelphia fan you are. A true fan doesn’t get bogged down by details.
"Negative Nellies Will Not Be Tolerated"
Let’s be blunt: If you can’t handle the heat, you’re welcome to stay home. Anyone caught voicing negative opinions about the team, the players, or any of the brilliant decisions made by the 76ers’ front office will be escorted out of the stadium. There will be zero tolerance for negativity. We are running a positive environment here, people. We’ve built something amazing with our team, and the last thing we need is a bunch of armchair critics bringing down the energy.
So, when you're at the Wells Fargo Center, remember your place: You're here to show your support. A fan's primary duty is to create a positive atmosphere, cheer without hesitation, and never, ever question our brilliance. Criticism of the team, whether audible or in writing, will not be tolerated. If you must voice dissatisfaction, please leave. We’ll be sure to keep your seat warm for someone who understands their role.
"We Appreciate Your Loyalty – Now, Be the Best Fan You Can Be"
We understand that sometimes things won’t go as planned. There may be losses. There may be moments where you don’t fully grasp the direction of the team. But in those moments, remember this: we’re building for the future. We have a vision. You may not always understand it, but we do.
As the Philadelphia 76ers move forward, your continued support and enthusiastic clapping are the lifeblood of our team. You are not here to coach, to critique, or to think you know better. You’re here to cheer, to clap, and to help us show the world that Philadelphia is the loudest, proudest, and most loyal fanbase in basketball.
In conclusion, thank you for your commitment to the team. Your dedication to support us—no matter how we perform—is what makes you a true 76ers fan. Now, let’s get out there, make noise, and remember: it’s not about us listening to you, it’s about you listening to us.
Go Sixers!
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There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
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Yeah sorry, these guys are idiots. As much as they **** up the narrative this year, I don't blame Embiid one bit for the injuries. Can't control a lot of this, and he just has the absolute worst luck. This is honestly trash.