Did the Raptors draft the wrong player out of Baylor?

[DKB333]

I know it is way too early but Yves Missi looks like a steal. Granted I may have literally watched the best two games of his NBA career but he put up 23/12 with a block and a steal in the first game and 18/14 with two blocks and a steal in the second game. Having drafted Dick the year before and also having traded for Quickley and Barrett a SG was the last position the team needed to add a player to. I imagine the Raptors went with who they viewed was the best player available but they may have made a mistake passing on Missi. It also would have allowed the Raptors to trade away their best realistic trade asset in Poeltl. Again, it is very early in their careers but it is something that I will be monitoring. Thoughts?

[Duffman100]

Way way too early, given that Walter is 19 and looks like he has some promising skills.

But yeah I picked up Missi a while back in fantasy, he's been putting up some good stats. Would look solid behind Poeltl right now.

I will say, I feel like there are players like Missi most drafts to get.

[Godaddycurse]

maybe they thought koloko would be coming back?

[KrazyP]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

[anotherhomer]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

that's one thing that stood out, for Darko's offense, you didn't need another boucher on the team but a big who knew what they were doing

Lacks great feel for the game and polish on both ends of the floor … Offensively still very limited in terms of creating baskets and playing the pick and roll/pop game … Still has a lot of plays where his lack of experience and feel for the game are exposed … Defensively he gets lost too easily and does not have a great feel for positioning and where to be in help defense

[mtcan]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

Ya I agree with the Chomche vs Missi comp. Perhaps with some development that Chomche is as good as Missi?

Jakobe has a lot more potential as a 3 level scorer and we really need someone who can create his own shot.

[DKB333]

Way way too early, given that Walter is 19 and looks like he has some promising skills.

But yeah I picked up Missi a while back in fantasy, he's been putting up some good stats. Would look solid behind Poeltl right now.

I will say, I feel like there are players like Missi most drafts to get.

To be fair both Walter and Missi are twenty years old and only born a few months apart. Both very young obviously.

[kalel123]

Well, positionally, our biggest need was a big. And he would've made prospect of potential Poeltl trade easier to swallow if he showed promise here because I say we shouldn't trade Poeltl without at least one guy behind him next in line that can actually play some now. However, Walter hasn't been too bad himself so will wait and see.

[Scase]

Way way too early, given that Walter is 19 and looks like he has some promising skills.

But yeah I picked up Missi a while back in fantasy, he's been putting up some good stats. Would look solid behind Poeltl right now.

I will say, I feel like there are players like Missi most drafts to get.

I've not seen anything from JKW that puts him in a different camp than "players like that in other drafts", yet. It is weird considering how thin we are at the C spot that we opted to get more guards.

I still trust the FO on this cause they certainly have more hits than misses when it comes to drafting, so they get the benefit of the doubt on that. But I can't help but think of him taking a lot of minutes at C in a developmental season, and how that would be better long term.

Would definitely make Jak more expendable and open up our options.

[Indeed]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

Or perhaps Edey with our original pick.
It was a weak draft anyway.

[raincityraptors]

I am not surprised to see this thread because they are both great prospects and we have a bigger need at C. But I'd be a hard no on swapping these two (even if I wasn't a Raptors fan, Walter is the more valuable asset).

I live in Austin, TX and watch a lot of college ball out here. I think both players are going to be great in their own ways but I think Walter has the chance to be special (even if it's just as a high level 3+D role player with some self-creation in his bag).

In our system a Center needs to create advantages through screening, passing or 3 point shots. Missi has a chance to get good at his screen craft but he's more of a roller/finisher hustle big. He's not the kind of C prospect that is going to thrive in Darko's system or enable the kind of offense we want to play.

Ja'kobe will find minutes on this squad no matter what the log jam is at his position. I think he can play guard/wing minutes (PG, SG, SF) though he probably needs a season or two before he can guard strong wings. I expect him to win his minutes a lot of the time and become a valued contributor.

I'm really glad we got both him and Shead (and to a lesser extent Dylan Disu) out of good Texas programs.

[bballsparkin]

I've not seen anything from JKW that puts him in a different camp than "players like that in other drafts", yet. It is weird considering how thin we are at the C spot that we opted to get more guards.

I still trust the FO on this cause they certainly have more hits than misses when it comes to drafting, so they get the benefit of the doubt on that. But I can't help but think of him taking a lot of minutes at C in a developmental season, and how that would be better long term.

Would definitely make Jak more expendable and open up our options.

With a better back up C they likely win more games. Plus Missi can't shoot as far as I know. A player like him can be added later.

[DKB333]

I am not surprised to see this thread because they are both great prospects and we have a bigger need at C. But I'd be a hard no on swapping these two (even if I wasn't a Raptors fan, Walter is the more valuable asset).

I live in Austin, TX and watch a lot of college ball out here. I think both players are going to be great in their own ways but I think Walter has the chance to be special (even if it's just as a high level 3+D role player with some self-creation in his bag).

In our system a Center needs to create advantages through screening, passing or 3 point shots. Missi has a chance to get good at his screen craft but he's more of a roller/finisher hustle big. He's not the kind of C prospect that is going to thrive in Darko's system or enable the kind of offense we want to play.

Ja'kobe will find minutes on this squad no matter what the log jam is at his position. I think he can play guard/wing minutes (PG, SG, SF) though he probably needs a season or two before he can guard strong wings. I expect him to win his minutes a lot of the time and become a valued contributor.

I'm really glad we got both him and Shead (and to a lesser extent Dylan Disu) out of good Texas programs.

I like that Walter is playing hard on defence but I cringe every time he shoots. I just checked his spits and OMG are they horrific. He is shooting 33/15/62!

[bballsparkin]

I like that Walter is playing hard on defence but I cringe every time he shoots. I just checked his spits and OMG are they horrific. He is shooting 33/15/62!

Dick's rookie seasoned prepared us for this. He looks good and I think his shot will come around eventually.

[DKB333]

I like that Walter is playing hard on defence but I cringe every time he shoots. I just checked his spits and OMG are they horrific. He is shooting 33/15/62!

Dick's rookie seasoned prepared us for this. He looks good and I think his shot will come around eventually.

Dick shot 42/36/89 in his rookie year. I understand that he had a rough start but he was not shooting nearly as poorly as Walter has.

[mtcan]

I appreciate Walter's fearlessness and feel for the game. He looks like he belongs despite having only played just a few games so far. I trust that the shooting will improve with time.

[bballsparkin]

Dick shot 42/36/89 in his rookie year. I understand that he had a rough start but he was not shooting nearly as poorly as Walter has.

Walter has only played 10 games. Dick was pretty bad at shooting his first 10 games IIRC. Walter definitely needs to shoot better though.

edit: shooting 62.5% FT is worrying though. Pretty sure Dick was always good at the line.

[Psubs]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

Missi was always projected as a taller Clint Capela.

The sooner they dump Davion and Boucher and give those mins to Jakobe and Mogbo the better.

[Duffman100]

Dick shot 42/36/89 in his rookie year. I understand that he had a rough start but he was not shooting nearly as poorly as Walter has.

Walter has only played 10 games. Dick was pretty bad at shooting his first 10 games IIRC. Walter definitely needs to shoot better though.

edit: shooting 62.5% FT is worrying though. Pretty sure Dick was always good at the line.

79% in college. Probably just small sample size

[DKB333]

The C the Raps had their sites on in the draft was probably Kelel Ware who went a couple picks before to Miami.

Missi would have been a nice C to develop behind Poeltl but he was probably still viewed as a raw prospect who needed considerable time developing a “feel for the game”. Perhaps they looked at Missi vs Chomche and didn’t think the difference was worth the difference in value between a mid 1st or late 2nd rounder?

Missi was always projected as a taller Clint Capela.

The sooner they dump Davion and Boucher and give those mins to Jakobe and Mogbo the better.

Maybe the Lakers would be interested in Davion? They need someone that can guard. They could use Peoltl as well obviously. There roster stinks though.