PG Nets: WIN!

[-Jragon-]

Dame has good for the most part this year but when he has a bad game he’s damn near unplayable. That was brutal from him tonight and he nearly single-handedly brought us down.

2nd part is hyperbole...

You don't think Dame draws the best wing defender and most wing attention even at his worst? Wtf do you think KM and Bobby were wide open? It's Dame/GA gravity. You think Doc played him 39 min because there's someone else on our bench that was going to do that? 11 assists. He did try to thread the needle unnecessarily on a pass late but let's not discount what he does.

Go ahead and put Delon in and now KM is blanketed and Delon has to shoot those 2 threes or KM/GA would go back to forcing stuff. Dame's worst day is better than Delon's best when you consider all that.

My opinion also is we should be popping the ball back to Dame for stretches to let him cook some instead of being a bunch of black holes .... we'd have won by 15 if we prioritized getting Dame cooking.

[chonestown]

Gary Bird

[chonestown]

Bucks shot 68 shots.... and won. That is wild.

Nice

[ShootingtheJ]

Dame has good for the most part this year but when he has a bad game he’s damn near unplayable. That was brutal from him tonight and he nearly single-handedly brought us down.

2nd part is hyperbole...

You don't think Dame draws the best wing defender and most wing attention even at his worst? Wtf do you think KM and Bobby were wide open? It's Dame/GA gravity. You think Doc played him 39 min because there's someone else on our bench that was going to do that? 11 assists. He did try to thread the needle unnecessarily on a pass late but let's not discount what he does.

Go ahead and put Delon in and now KM is blanketed and Delon has to shoot those 2 threes or KM/GA would go back to forcing stuff. Dame's worst day is better than Delon's best when you consider all that.

My opinion also is we should be popping the ball back to Dame for stretches to let him cook some instead of being a bunch of black holes .... we'd have won by 15 if we prioritized getting Dame cooking.

Dame had 7 turnovers and was god awful on defense. If we force feed Dame, we'd have gotten more misses. He physically didn't have it. Anyone who knows what Dames Saturday night consisted of knows why. His teammates have to be so pissed. Every Sunday afternoon game is the same.

[yannisk]

My opinion also is we should be popping the ball back to Dame for stretches to let him cook some instead of being a bunch of black holes .... we'd have won by 15 if we prioritized getting Dame cooking.

we were giving him the ball, he was not very aggressive, he was passing good 3p looks to other (open) players, personally i would prefer to shoot those than pass to an open AJJ for example. He had the ball enough to have 11 assists (and 7 turnovers)

[ShootingtheJ]

Dame has good for the most part this year but when he has a bad game he’s damn near unplayable. That was brutal from him tonight and he nearly single-handedly brought us down.

2nd part is hyperbole...

You don't think Dame draws the best wing defender and most wing attention even at his worst?

You think Schroder is their best defender?

[Profound23]

Dame has good for the most part this year but when he has a bad game he’s damn near unplayable. That was brutal from him tonight and he nearly single-handedly brought us down.

2nd part is hyperbole...

You don't think Dame draws the best wing defender and most wing attention even at his worst?

You think Schroder is their best defender?

He wouldn't be the only one.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/brooklyn-nets-defensive-player-in-this-season

[raferfenix]

“It’s kind of crazy when you go zone at any level that you play in, teams get stagnant,” said Bobby Portis, who had 23 points, five rebounds and three blocks. “It’s kinda crazy you stagnate teams like that, so I think our zone really helped to end the third quarter and start the fourth.”

The Bucks started their comeback with some shotmaking from Khris Middleton, who, in his second game of the season, put up 11 points and six assists in 20 minutes off the bench, and Portis, who went a perfect 5-of-5 from deep including four fourth-quarter 3s. While both players are capable of creating for themselves, the shots during this run were created by others.

While the ball movement was nice, the Bucks didn’t flip the game in their favor until they started pairing their clutch shotmaking with great defense. Those strong defensive plays down the stretch came from an unlikely source: Portis

“The four 3s are amazing,” Antetokounmpo said of Portis’ fourth-quarter effort. “When you’re able to score points like that in the fourth quarter down the stretch, especially in a close game, it’s incredible, but for me, every time that we were switching — because we were switching down the stretch one through five — and he was on the ball, he just made it tough.

“He made it tough on guys. And that’s what makes it even more incredible. That’s what I see.”

….down the stretch, it wasn’t only the shots we made; we were able to defend them,” Antetokounmpo said. “And the guy that they were picking on was Bobby and it did not work today.

“It did not work. I’m extremely proud of him. And the shots that he made, that’s also great, but I care about his defense.”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5979645/2024/12/09/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-bobby-portis/

[Siefer]

I hope there's a report on that weird ass ref review

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people puzzling over this, and I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of how they landed on counting the basket after the play was blown dead. I understand the intuition that he would have probably made the shot, but from a rules point of view I don't understand how you can build that into the resolution. You blew the play dead - that irreversibly alters the behavior of everyone on the court. That the ball would have most likely gone in here is irrelevant, and I think it should have been a jump ball.

[old skool]

I hope there's a report on that weird ass ref review

Yeah, I've seen a lot of people puzzling over this, and I still haven't seen a satisfying explanation of how they landed on counting the basket after the play was blown dead. I understand the intuition that he would have probably made the shot, but from a rules point of view I don't understand how you can build that into the resolution. You blew the play dead - that irreversibly alters the behavior of everyone on the court. That the ball would have most likely gone in here is irrelevant, and I think it should have been a jump ball.

Malloy said that when the whistle blew, the rebounder had already started the shooting motion to put the ball into the basket, which by rule, means that the basket must count if the challenge was successful.

I've never seen that particular sequence of events before, but that doesn't mean that the ruling was not correct.

[Dick Tate]

Dame had 7 turnovers and was god awful on defense. If we force feed Dame, we'd have gotten more misses. He physically didn't have it. Anyone who knows what Dames Saturday night consisted of knows why. His teammates have to be so pissed. Every Sunday afternoon game is the same.

This is the direction you're headed, eh?

[-Jragon-]

My opinion also is we should be popping the ball back to Dame for stretches to let him cook some instead of being a bunch of black holes .... we'd have won by 15 if we prioritized getting Dame cooking.

we were giving him the ball, he was not very aggressive, he was passing good 3p looks to other (open) players, personally i would prefer to shoot those than pass to an open AJJ for example. He had the ball enough to have 11 assists (and 7 turnovers)

Did you ever play vs a streaky shooting guy with "make it take it" and like for 5 minutes he can't miss and you're down like 10 points and it seems insurmountable? That's what Dame can do. I get that he didn't take a FGA in the 1st quarter and distributed; that's good PG stuff there. But in the 2nd quarter there were 2 opportunities where he made big 3's and his teammates should have given him "make it take it" until he misses... that should be a rule with Dame after he makes a big nuts 3, keep running plays back to him til he misses and you might blink and be up 20 points.. but no, everyone else has to be a black hole and he never gets that "hot" feeling. By the 4th quarter he was like 2-6 and wasn't feeling it so yeah he found open guys but I just think we win by bigger margins treating Dame like Steph for small stretches after makes.

[-Jragon-]

He physically didn't have it. Anyone who knows what Dames Saturday night consisted of knows why. His teammates have to be so pissed. Every Sunday afternoon game is the same.

Do you have proof or evidence that he was unprofessional and got drunk Saturday night and felt hungover for his Sunday 2pm game? How many drinks did he have? How strong were they? Where did he go? If you don't know or have any evidence then honestly you should STFU

[paulpressey25]

I just think we win by bigger margins treating Dame like Steph for small stretches after makes.

This is the issue with bringing Dame into this particular roster. We've already got one guy who is super ball dominant. I don't know how we sideline him, to put into place running tons of stuff for Dame.

I'm still skeptical of the pairing working long-term. Maybe Middleton will be the link that makes it work.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah we get it. Now that Dame's 3PT% has stabilized to the inevitable mean, gotta move those goal posts yet again. Somebody better assign him a handler now to ensure he isn't pulling a Harden and getting lazy/fat at strip clubs lol.

[-Jragon-]

I just think we win by bigger margins treating Dame like Steph for small stretches after makes.

This is the issue with bringing Dame into this particular roster. We've already got one guy who is super ball dominant. I don't know how we sideline him, to put into place running tons of stuff for Dame.

I'm still skeptical of the pairing working long-term. Maybe Middleton will be the link that makes it work.

I do think we need to do it 1 or 2 times every game, but it doesn't have to be all game... I think once it gets that hot feeling once or twice in the 1st 3 quarters then he will automatically feel like Dame time in the last 5 minutes. Giannis can still run the show the rest of the time and use Khris/GTJ/Dairy as needed.

[-Jragon-]

I just think we win by bigger margins treating Dame like Steph for small stretches after makes.

This is the issue with bringing Dame into this particular roster. We've already got one guy who is super ball dominant. I don't know how we sideline him, to put into place running tons of stuff for Dame.

I'm still skeptical of the pairing working long-term. Maybe Middleton will be the link that makes it work.

Dame has been surprisingly unselfish.. I just think his team/coaches need to make him be more aggressive particularly after he makes a shot or 2 and see if he can get the magic going... the whole team will be fired up if we get Dame tapping his wrist again; it won't hurt the team.

[MiltownMadness]

Dame had 7 turnovers and was god awful on defense. If we force feed Dame, we'd have gotten more misses. He physically didn't have it. Anyone who knows what Dames Saturday night consisted of knows why. His teammates have to be so pissed. Every Sunday afternoon game is the same.

This is the direction you're headed, eh?

Ugh, had to put up this same **** with Khris for like 5+ years on here, it's pretty gross to assume things like this and has always rubbed me the wrong way. Says more about you than it says about Dame

[ShootingtheJ]

I just think we win by bigger margins treating Dame like Steph for small stretches after makes.

This is the issue with bringing Dame into this particular roster. We've already got one guy who is super ball dominant. I don't know how we sideline him, to put into place running tons of stuff for Dame.

I'm still skeptical of the pairing working long-term. Maybe Middleton will be the link that makes it work.

Dame has been surprisingly unselfish.. I just think his team/coaches need to make him be more aggressive particularly after he makes a shot or 2 and see if he can get the magic going... the whole team will be fired up if we get Dame tapping his wrist again; it won't hurt the team.

Bucks are 16-2 in the Dame era when he gets 10 assists. He should concentrate on that. We have shooters for taking the shots.

[ReasonablySober]

Keep reading this is as a Nets win.