Preparing for some Brown disappointment

[Zeno]

Just need the guy to get back and healthy.

Put up a month or 2 of healthy games..

I honestly think a late first round or a few seconds are still in the cards

I think he is back against the Heat because we are just about at showcase season. If we are getting a late 1st it is because we are eating additional money as much as for Brown. In a salary cap neutral trade, he's probably a 3 2nds kind of guy. Maybe we can a reclamation project thrown in on top of that too.

[ArthurVandelay]

He has shown a constant inability to understand how the cap or salaries work. Just ignore him.

Late first goes for 13-15M, but some people don't understand asset management.

Find me one example of a 1st round pick being sold for cash. Just one.

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

[Kingsway_fan]

With so many non playoff and even play in teams looking to unload or trade players ie., Butler, Ingram, Etc... by trade deadline, I can't see how Masai gets value for Brown, Boucher, olnyk, etc...

I don't see him moving any others... perhaps Mitchell?... should be interesting deadline.

[djsunyc]

With so many non playoff and even play in teams looking to unload or trade players ie., Butler, Ingram, Etc... by trade deadline, I can't see how Masai gets value for Brown, Boucher, olnyk, etc...

I don't see him moving any others... perhaps Mitchell?... should be interesting deadline.

it's a different set of circumstances.

butler + ingram make alot more money so that makes deals bigger. they are also way better players so the ask will be more. teams would be trading for a starter. and not only that, retaining them would cost you a ton of money.

brown/boucher/kelly are role guys so the contractual obligation is less and the ask would be lower and keeping them would be considerably cheaper.

we could go after butler/ingram if we were willing to commit big $'s to them moving forward but we aren't at that place as a team yet.

[DKB333]

He has shown a constant inability to understand how the cap or salaries work. Just ignore him.

Late first goes for 13-15M, but some people don't understand asset management.

Find me one example of a 1st round pick being sold for cash. Just one.

I think the Suns may have done it under Sarver, but I may be wrong.

[islandboy53]

Late first goes for 13-15M, but some people don't understand asset management.

Find me one example of a 1st round pick being sold for cash. Just one.

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

That was 15 years ago. More importantly, none of those trades was just cash for a 1st rounder.

[PushDaRock]

Find me one example of a 1st round pick being sold for cash. Just one.

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

That was 15 years ago. More importantly, none of those trades was just cash for a 1st rounder.

It's not really relevant today as no owner is doing this. But many of those Sarver trades were definitely for just cash. It wasn't even being frugal, it was just stupidity.

[ArthurVandelay]

Find me one example of a 1st round pick being sold for cash. Just one.

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

That was 15 years ago. More importantly, none of those trades was just cash for a 1st rounder.

Another instance of Sarver being cheap was when he sold off the franchise’s first-round draft picks in both 2004 and 2006 for around $3 million cash each. The two picks ended up becoming Luol Deng and Rajon Rondo, both multiple time all-stars throughout their NBA careers.

https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/03/op-ed-how-new-ownership-of-the-phoenix-suns-swung-the-title-odds-in-their-favor/

But again, he is the exception and widely mocked for his frugalness during his tenure of ownership.

[Jermaine OBosh]

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

That was 15 years ago. More importantly, none of those trades was just cash for a 1st rounder.

Another instance of Sarver being cheap was when he sold off the franchise’s first-round draft picks in both 2004 and 2006 for around $3 million cash each. The two picks ended up becoming Luol Deng and Rajon Rondo, both multiple time all-stars throughout their NBA careers.

https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/03/op-ed-how-new-ownership-of-the-phoenix-suns-swung-the-title-odds-in-their-favor/

But again, he is the exception and widely mocked for his frugalness during his tenure of ownership.

I remember the Nets traded Kyle Korver to the 76ers for money, and used that money to buy a copy (fax) machine.

[raptorforlife88]

Robert Sarver (former Suns owner) was notorious for it.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/206289-robert-sarvers-stinginess-has-cost-the-phoenix-suns

But he is definitely the exception and was widely ridiculed for his frugalness.

Also, the most cash a team is permitted to include in a trade is around $7m.

That was 15 years ago. More importantly, none of those trades was just cash for a 1st rounder.

Another instance of Sarver being cheap was when he sold off the franchise’s first-round draft picks in both 2004 and 2006 for around $3 million cash each. The two picks ended up becoming Luol Deng and Rajon Rondo, both multiple time all-stars throughout their NBA careers.

https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/03/op-ed-how-new-ownership-of-the-phoenix-suns-swung-the-title-odds-in-their-favor/

But again, he is the exception and widely mocked for his frugalness during his tenure of ownership.

No doubt the reason Steve Nash never wound up with a championship or even a finals appearance. His cheapness limited that teams ceiling.

[mademan]

If we're ok with eating an extra year of salary, we can fit into a trade at the deadline and sneak a 1st rounder for Brown I think.