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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#721 » by byeganyo » Mon Dec 9, 2024 9:21 pm

jezzerinho wrote:Coby White seems like he could be gettable from Chicago. With Lavine unmovable, plus Ayo, Giddey and Ball, Coby is prob looking at 6th Man mins at best.

He's not perfect. But he's long, can score some, passes well, can be on or off ball, isn't a horrible defender. Handle isn't really PG level, but it'd immediately be the best of our guards.

Cole and a protected first would do it? Cole will be happier being 6th man in Chi than White will. I would imagine that would be enough as Chi are starved of picks.


Have you checked any Chicago games the past 2 seasons?
He has started all the games he has played, its 2nd in minutes and 3rd in points. He is probably one of their 3 best players, we can offer a protected pick and they can laugh at that.
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Post#722 » by Orlando Dawg » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:50 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Orlando are currently betting favorites to land De’Aaron Fox in a potential trade via Brovada.

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.


https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-overtaken-by-guard-needy-rival-as-favorites-to-land-de-aaron-fox-01jehbs05hk7

Heat might give up Tyler Herro.

What would the Magic need to trade at the deadline to get a 34 million PG who is worth the max?
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Post#723 » by three3d » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:22 pm

Orlando Dawg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Orlando are currently betting favorites to land De’Aaron Fox in a potential trade via Brovada.

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.


https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-overtaken-by-guard-needy-rival-as-favorites-to-land-de-aaron-fox-01jehbs05hk7

Heat might give up Tyler Herro.

What would the Magic need to trade at the deadline to get a 34 million PG who is worth the max?


De’Arron Fox to Miami is such a Pat Riley move smh. Meanwhile Jeff Weltman is taking his mid evening nap as usual. One things for certain, Weltman will never tear his oblique trying to do to much and carry this team.
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#724 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:34 pm

Orlando Dawg wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Orlando are currently betting favorites to land De’Aaron Fox in a potential trade via Brovada.

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.


https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-heat-overtaken-by-guard-needy-rival-as-favorites-to-land-de-aaron-fox-01jehbs05hk7

Heat might give up Tyler Herro.

What would the Magic need to trade at the deadline to get a 34 million PG who is worth the max?


Did you even read the article? :lol:

No where did it mention the Heat would be willing to give up Herro, instead it said:

Considering the Magic's abundance of youth, the Heat will need to cut ties with rising star Tyler Herro to land the former No. 5 pick.


Also, this article was from a few days ago. Shams just said today that Miami would listen to offers for Butler and then Butlers agent released a list of preferred teams so this means Butler doesn’t want to resign and has probably asked out privately.

Regarding the trade, nothing will happen until the off season. I highly highly doubt Orlando does anything aggressive this deadline.
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Post#725 » by Rainwater » Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:55 pm

Contenders are reaching out regarding Simons. With Franz and Paolo out and a need for a 6th man, could one of the contenders be the magic?
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Post#726 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Dec 10, 2024 7:03 pm

Jimmy Butler.....No.
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Post#727 » by Skybox » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:35 am

Simons makes so much sense…Herro would be even better…but only likely (in a 3-way) if MIA was hunting bigger game (like Fox)…in that scenario, ORL should consider outbidding MIA and leaving the empty-handed (like Dame to MIL)
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Post#728 » by RichCollab » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:36 am

Rainwater wrote:Contenders are reaching out regarding Simons. With Franz and Paolo out and a need for a 6th man, could one of the contenders be the magic?


Where is that news? He has been available. He doesn’t play winning ball. Give me Sexton or even Schroeder over Simons.
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Post#729 » by Rainwater » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:40 am

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Rainwater wrote:Contenders are reaching out regarding Simons. With Franz and Paolo out and a need for a 6th man, could one of the contenders be the magic?


Where is that news? He has been available. He doesn’t play winning ball. Give me Sexton or even Schroeder over Simons.


Wiretap. Schroder is too old, and Sexton is not much of a shooter or playmaker two things the Magic will need from a sixth man. But wouldn't any of them just prefer Simons.
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Post#730 » by RichCollab » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:45 am

Rainwater wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Contenders are reaching out regarding Simons. With Franz and Paolo out and a need for a 6th man, could one of the contenders be the magic?


Where is that news? He has been available. He doesn’t play winning ball. Give me Sexton or even Schroeder over Simons.


Wiretap. Schroder is too old, and Sexton is not much of a shooter or playmaker two things the Magic will need from a sixth man. But wouldn't any of them just prefer Simons.


Found the article. Simons is injury prone and is questionable effort at times.
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Post#731 » by Husky1 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:48 am

If we want to stay in top 4 whilst P and F are out then we gotta bit the bullet now and offload Cole/Gary and 2 x firsts for Cam J or the likes.
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Post#732 » by Rainwater » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:49 am

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jezzerinho wrote:Coby White seems like he could be gettable from Chicago. With Lavine unmovable, plus Ayo, Giddey and Ball, Coby is prob looking at 6th Man mins at best.

He's not perfect. But he's long, can score some, passes well, can be on or off ball, isn't a horrible defender. Handle isn't really PG level, but it'd immediately be the best of our guards.

Cole and a protected first would do it? Cole will be happier being 6th man in Chi than White will. I would imagine that would be enough as Chi are starved of picks.


Have you checked any Chicago games the past 2 seasons?
He has started all the games he has played, its 2nd in minutes and 3rd in points. He is probably one of their 3 best players, we can offer a protected pick and they can laugh at that.


Coby is going nowhere
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Post#733 » by cedric76 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:59 am

Husky1 wrote:If we want to stay in top 4 whilst P and F are out then we gotta bit the bullet now and offload Cole/Gary and 2 x firsts for Cam J or the likes.


I would do that if he wasn't injury prone

Also we need to trade for someone willing to be a backup


Schroeder is expiring so could be added for a fraction of that (and I think could be resigned on the cheap this summer if he enjoys our team culture)

Cole + worst of our 2025 FRP is max I d go for Dennis

I can't see simons, Johnson or claxton been happy with a bench role
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#734 » by three3d » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:57 pm

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/sort/position/oklahoma-city-thunder

Perfect trade partner , OKC is LOADED with guard depth

Lu Dort
Cason Wallace
Shai
Caruso
Isaiah Joe
Aaron Wiggins
Nikola Topic ~ injured for the season but was probably top 10 pick before injury news


LOADED !!!! Any one of those 7 guys could start for us , I’d be calling OKC and seeing who they’d give us for Issac + picks and Cole
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Re: Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#735 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:26 pm

three3d wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/sort/position/oklahoma-city-thunder

Perfect trade partner , OKC is LOADED with guard depth

Lu Dort
Cason Wallace
Shai
Caruso
Isaiah Joe
Aaron Wiggins
Nikola Topic ~ injured for the season but was probably top 10 pick before injury news


LOADED !!!! Any one of those 7 guys could start for us , I’d be calling OKC and seeing who they’d give us for Issac + picks and Cole


Pretty bad trade for any of those guys (Topic i havent seen ) All of them are just more of the same without addressing any need. Why do we need a 4th/5th 3&D guard, without good playmaking/self creation?
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Post#736 » by cedric76 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:01 pm

I d like to dump Cole for Schroeder or DFS, 2 vets that shouldn't mind too much coming off our bench and stay here long term
Suggs, AB, Jase
Bane, Melton, Jett
Franz, TDS, Houstan
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#737 » by three3d » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:13 pm

GelbeWand09 wrote:
three3d wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/sort/position/oklahoma-city-thunder

Perfect trade partner , OKC is LOADED with guard depth

Lu Dort
Cason Wallace
Shai
Caruso
Isaiah Joe
Aaron Wiggins
Nikola Topic ~ injured for the season but was probably top 10 pick before injury news


LOADED !!!! Any one of those 7 guys could start for us , I’d be calling OKC and seeing who they’d give us for Issac + picks and Cole


Pretty bad trade for any of those guys (Topic i havent seen ) All of them are just more of the same without addressing any need. Why do we need a 4th/5th 3&D guard, without good playmaking/self creation?



Isaiah Joe shooting 38% from 3 would be the best shooter on this team. At this point Jonathan Issac for any of those guys is an upgrade over Jonathan Issac we have right now. We need someone that can play and shoot more than another defensive player. Realistically what’s good isn’t to have a top 3 defense when you have a bottom 5 offense?
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Post#738 » by VFX » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:28 pm

Not sure peoples fascination with DFS other than some Mosely connection. Guy will get zero total minutes when Paolo/Franz return and Isaac is healthy for more than 1/6 games. Tristan da Silva is still on the roster.

You can convince me in moving Cole for someone that can actually move an offense and create off the dribble. Honestly wouldn't care if Jett or Caleb were involved either, but thats just me probably.

Coby White or Ayo from Chicago. Schroeder for minimal assets. Bones from LAC. Tre Jones in SA's time is up, but not sure hes a fit.

I waver on Sexton because Ainge will want way more than he's worth and I question his fit in the second unit after being a starter playing 25-30mpg.
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Post#739 » by three3d » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:39 pm

I honestly don’t think the asking price for Anfernee Simons can be that high. Simons playing the Cole roll is an upgrade this season and possibly next year, he could move into the starting lineup
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Post#740 » by VFX » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:28 pm

three3d wrote:I honestly don’t think the asking price for Anfernee Simons can be that high. Simons playing the Cole roll is an upgrade this season and possibly next year, he could move into the starting lineup


Doesn't matter.

Simons is $26m/2 and likely isn't starting in Mosely's system because of defense.

He just doesn't make sense for the money involved prior to paying Paolo, Franz, and Suggs. Magic shouldn't pay a sixth man $26m, they already pay Isaac that money to play 16mpg and he still never plays.

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