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Capn'O wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:I would make the case that we could've gotten more for him if they had traded him earlier...
The deal I wanted was draft night w/ Atlanta and get Garland/Little
So close to a flawless idea. Just a Little off.
Iron Mantis wrote:OG is the best PF the Knicks have had since prime STAT.
stuporman wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:stuporman wrote:
If the Knicks already had Rose...then why were the struggling to start the next year?
If the Knicks already had Hart...then why were they struggling to start the next year?
If the Knicks already had Hart AND OG(and KAT and MB)...they why are they struggling(in some aspects) to start the next year?
Again, it's been the pattern EVERY. EFFING. SEASON. Why, I don't know but I just look at the historical data, every year it takes a little while for his Knicks team to get in a rhythm on both ends of the court. This year the talent is so high they have a better than .500 record but they are certainly still struggling in some aspects.
We also can see how some of those issues are starting to come together, rim protection was woeful for the first dozen or so games but it's been better the past dozen or so games. Now let's hope they can clean up the perimeter defense, especially the 3ball defense as the season goes along.
When it does and the team really starts to click and surge at...oh, let's say....after new year's day...don't be surprised.
It didn't happen in the Kemba/Guano season. You do realize that it could be both right? Adding talent that fits to a team finding their groove. The historical data actually supports that we make a GOOD mid season trade and then the team goes on runs. The one season we didn't, I don't think we did anything at the deadline worth mentioning but, I could be wrong. Just seems like you're missing some data.
The R***** emotional meltdown season, that had nothing to do with it, no? Sure, defensively inept additions like Kemba and Fournier contributed the a team not having the players to even potentially surge later in the season but that shows why it didn't happen that season.
It doesn't explain why the team didn't start well the year Hart was already on the roster if you claim he was such a catalyst for winning so explains the second half surge. What does explain it is that EVERY. EFFING. SEASON. it takes some cohesion building every season.
Why is this such a radical idea? Why is there so much resistance to the simple, obvious, explanation? Why is this something people want to argue against? It seems silly to me, it just is, no need to overthink it.
RIP mags
Jalen Bluntson wrote:stuporman wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
It didn't happen in the Kemba/Guano season. You do realize that it could be both right? Adding talent that fits to a team finding their groove. The historical data actually supports that we make a GOOD mid season trade and then the team goes on runs. The one season we didn't, I don't think we did anything at the deadline worth mentioning but, I could be wrong. Just seems like you're missing some data.
The R***** emotional meltdown season, that had nothing to do with it, no? Sure, defensively inept additions like Kemba and Fournier contributed the a team not having the players to even potentially surge later in the season but that shows why it didn't happen that season.
It doesn't explain why the team didn't start well the year Hart was already on the roster if you claim he was such a catalyst for winning so explains the second half surge. What does explain it is that EVERY. EFFING. SEASON. it takes some cohesion building every season.
Why is this such a radical idea? Why is there so much resistance to the simple, obvious, explanation? Why is this something people want to argue against? It seems silly to me, it just is, no need to overthink it.
You ignore facts to make some BS post about Randle having an emotional meltdown being the reason you are right and the facts have nothing to do with anything? Just stop it bro.
We know for a fact that every season we added talent to the team, they went on runs and made the playoffs. The one season we didn't add talent we went nowhere and did nothing. Seems like the trades had a LOT to do with the in season improvements those years. Why were they struggling to start the next season? Because they just weren't good enough until MORE talent was added and they got even further than the previous seasons. EVERY. EFFING. SEASON.
Bum ass 11-14 team adds HOF PG mid season and makes the 4 seed. Coincidence.
Bum ass team does nothing at the deadline and makes the lottery. Nothing to see here folks.
Decent 30-26 team adds a talented glue guy and immediately goes on a 9 game win streak and secured the 5 seed. Coincidence.
Same team makes huge trade on NYE and they go on an historic January run. Coincidence.
Yeah. It's because every year his teams start off slow and then go on runs. Just not the one season the did not make a good trade. Makes perfect sense.
? 3toheadmelo wrote:Did we trade RJ yet?
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Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
robillionaire wrote:It’s really a shame we still have to play these irrelevant bottom feeders 3 more times in the very near future maybe it’s best to avoid the PG after those affairs
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
stuporman wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:stuporman wrote:
The R***** emotional meltdown season, that had nothing to do with it, no? Sure, defensively inept additions like Kemba and Fournier contributed the a team not having the players to even potentially surge later in the season but that shows why it didn't happen that season.
It doesn't explain why the team didn't start well the year Hart was already on the roster if you claim he was such a catalyst for winning so explains the second half surge. What does explain it is that EVERY. EFFING. SEASON. it takes some cohesion building every season.
Why is this such a radical idea? Why is there so much resistance to the simple, obvious, explanation? Why is this something people want to argue against? It seems silly to me, it just is, no need to overthink it.
You ignore facts to make some BS post about Randle having an emotional meltdown being the reason you are right and the facts have nothing to do with anything? Just stop it bro.
We know for a fact that every season we added talent to the team, they went on runs and made the playoffs. The one season we didn't add talent we went nowhere and did nothing. Seems like the trades had a LOT to do with the in season improvements those years. Why were they struggling to start the next season? Because they just weren't good enough until MORE talent was added and they got even further than the previous seasons. EVERY. EFFING. SEASON.
Bum ass 11-14 team adds HOF PG mid season and makes the 4 seed. Coincidence.
Bum ass team does nothing at the deadline and makes the lottery. Nothing to see here folks.
Decent 30-26 team adds a talented glue guy and immediately goes on a 9 game win streak and secured the 5 seed. Coincidence.
Same team makes huge trade on NYE and they go on an historic January run. Coincidence.
Yeah. It's because every year his teams start off slow and then go on runs. Just not the one season the did not make a good trade. Makes perfect sense.
HOF player on team that struggles to start the season...
Talented glue guy on team that struggles to start the season...
Ultra talented defender, two of them acually added to the team that struggles defensive to start the season...
If they were the reason for the winning why are they on teams that struggled the next season? There should be no struggling, right? Those amazing players that contributed to the end season surge are on the teams, so why?
Oh that's right...Kemba and Fournier suckage is so immense it crosses the space time continuum to effect all other teams...but only the start of the season of those teams, not the end of the season.
Yes, R***** emotional meltdown was a large part of why that season never surged...
RIP mags Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
? robillionaire wrote:Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
I preface this by saying that he’s been playing much better and I’m really happy about that
“This month” has been 5 games and we are 4-1 in those games so for the plus minus stat itself it’s a lot of team success on a small sample size
But, he’s having a very nice stretch, let’s hope it continues
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
3toheadmelo wrote:Guano wrote:Reign23 wrote:man do I enjoy the anti-RJ posts. He is so good now, that the "SEE he sucks" posts come when he hangs an efficient 30 on one of the best perimeter defenders in the league while playing with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringersnever change guys!
So good he did all this in the clutch. Never change guys!HarthorneWingo wrote:In the last 2:51 of the 4th quarter, RJ
1. Turned the ball over
2. Shot an airball 3 from the right corner, and
3. Closed out late on KATS’s 3 from the left wing to put the Knicks up 113-108 with 6.3 in the game.
That rj pack still hitting!
Guano wrote:robillionaire wrote:Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
I preface this by saying that he’s been playing much better and I’m really happy about that
“This month” has been 5 games and we are 4-1 in those games so for the plus minus stat itself it’s a lot of team success on a small sample size
But, he’s having a very nice stretch, let’s hope it continues
Thank you, then I will continue to be hypercritical of his play.
Jalen Bluntson wrote:stuporman wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
You ignore facts to make some BS post about Randle having an emotional meltdown being the reason you are right and the facts have nothing to do with anything? Just stop it bro.
We know for a fact that every season we added talent to the team, they went on runs and made the playoffs. The one season we didn't add talent we went nowhere and did nothing. Seems like the trades had a LOT to do with the in season improvements those years. Why were they struggling to start the next season? Because they just weren't good enough until MORE talent was added and they got even further than the previous seasons. EVERY. EFFING. SEASON.
Bum ass 11-14 team adds HOF PG mid season and makes the 4 seed. Coincidence.
Bum ass team does nothing at the deadline and makes the lottery. Nothing to see here folks.
Decent 30-26 team adds a talented glue guy and immediately goes on a 9 game win streak and secured the 5 seed. Coincidence.
Same team makes huge trade on NYE and they go on an historic January run. Coincidence.
Yeah. It's because every year his teams start off slow and then go on runs. Just not the one season the did not make a good trade. Makes perfect sense.
HOF player on team that struggles to start the season...
Talented glue guy on team that struggles to start the season...
Ultra talented defender, two of them acually added to the team that struggles defensive to start the season...
If they were the reason for the winning why are they on teams that struggled the next season? There should be no struggling, right? Those amazing players that contributed to the end season surge are on the teams, so why?
Oh that's right...Kemba and Fournier suckage is so immense it crosses the space time continuum to effect all other teams...but only the start of the season of those teams, not the end of the season.
Yes, R***** emotional meltdown was a large part of why that season never surged...
Are you the one who is actually having the emotional meltdown? Please tell me you are going to ignore trades that factually improved the team and act like they had nothing to do with things. The following season? That's your excuse?
For the record...we didn't have the same team following the Rose example. So scratch that nonsense off your list. The year we made the Hart trade was followed by an injry riddled season where we made a huge mid season trade and finished higher and went further in the playoffs than the previous year. So you are just wrong about everything there as well. The season following that trade we made an even bigger move and now have a team with 4 new starters and we are not struggling in comparison.
Wrong wrong wrong and wrong. The historical data suggests that the trades made IN SEASON improved the teams IN SEASON. The rest of your nonsense is just that. Nonsense,
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