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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#61 » by zzaj » Mon Dec 2, 2024 8:39 pm

Walton1one wrote:THRU 12/2

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Watch List:
Johni Broome averaging 20.7 – 12.9 – 3.3 – 3.1 BLK (34.6% 3pt)
Kam Jones: 14-2-3 || 20-6-10
Mackenzie Mgbako: 8-6-2 || 13-4-1 || 25-4-1

ACC
DUKE\FLAGG 13-5-3 ||| 9-9-7 (0-2 3pt)
DUKE\KNEUPPEL 11-3-8 (0-8 3pt) ||| 11-3-1 w\2 STL (3-4 3pt)
DUKE\MALUACH 4-1-0 W\2 STL & 1BLK ||| 9-3-0
NC\POWELL 6-4-0 W\2 STL (2-2 3pt) ||| 2-1-2 ||| 18-1-1 (4-6 3pt)
CAL\STOJAKOVIC 15-3-2 w\2 BLK (2-6 3pt)
FSU\WATKINS 14-3-4 (4-6 3pt)

BIG 12
BYU\DEMIN 16-3-4 (2-9 3pt, 5TO) ||| 8-11-4 (0-2 3pt)
BAYLOR\EDGECOMBE 2-2-0 (only 11min)

BIG EAST
UCONN\MCNEELEY 10-4-4 (2-4 3pt) || 20-1-1 (4-6 3pt) || 0-4-5 (0-4 3pt, 0-9 FG) || 16-5-1 (1-8 3pt)
UCONN\KARABAN 19-4-6 (4-8 3pt) || 6-5-0 (1-7 3pt) || 21-3-1 (4-8 3pt) || DNP
CREIGHTON\KALKBRENNER 11-5-2 w\5 BLK ||| 9-10-1 w\5 BLK & 2 STL || DNP

BIG TEN
RUTGERS\BAILEY 10-4-1 || 22-4-1 (1-3 3pt) || 24-10-1 w\2 STL (2-8 3pt)
RUTGERS\HARPER 36-6-6 (2-6 3pt) || 37-2-2 w|2 STL (0-3 3pt) || 18-3-3 (2-6 3pt)
ILLINOIS\JAKUCIONIS 21-6-5 w\3 STL (3-4 3pt) || 23-6-4 (2-5 3pt)
ILLINOIS\RILEY 13-2-1 (3-9 3pt) || 5-0-2 (1-5 3pt)
MARYLAND\QUEEN 15-8-2 w\3 STL || 20-9-4 w\2 BLK

SEC
TEXAS\JOHNSON 21-5-2 (3-4 3pt)
GEORGIA\NEWELL 12-1-2 w\2 STL & 1 BLK
SC\MURRAY-BOYLES 13-6-2 w\2 STL & 3 BLK || 16-8-2 w\3 STL & 2 BLK (0-3 3pt)
ARKANSAS\THIERO 11-4-5 w\ 4 STL (0-2 3pt) || 26-6-1 (0-2 3pt)


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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#62 » by Walton1one » Mon Dec 2, 2024 8:43 pm

Huge weekend by Johni Broome, older\senior, but good size 6'10, scoring\reboundiong\3pt%

Harper went off, Jakucionis has looked good as well

McNeeley struggled with his 3pt shot

Powell is in lottery pick range, but minutes\production pretty sparse so far, last game vs MSU was his best by far
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#63 » by Walton1one » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:08 pm

International update:

Traore thru 10 games averaging: 9.8 pts - 1.9 REB - 5.0 AST - 2.9 TO - 37.9% - 25% 3pt (4.8\att) in 21.4 min
age 18.4 - 6'5 - ESPN #1 - projected 4-10

Gonzalez thru 7 games averaging: 5.4 pts - 1.9 REB - 1.1 AST - 50% - 25% 3pt (1.7\att) in 11.4 min
age 18.8 - 6'7 - ESPN #2 - projected 8-20

Saraf thru 7 games averaging: 12.4 pts - 2.9 REB - 5.6 AST - 2.1 TO - 1.4 STL - 37.3% - 24% 3pt (3.6\att) in 25.9 min
age 18.6 - 6'6 - ESPN #3 - projected 8-20

Essengue thru 9 games averaging: 13.8 pts - 5.2 REB - 1 BLK - 55.4% - 35.3% 3pt (2\att) in 23.6 min
age 17.9 - 6'10 - ESPN #4 - projected 10-25

Ruzic thru 4 games (injured) averaging: 4.8 pts - 3 REB - .5 AST - .5 BLK - 43.8% - 33.3 3pt (2.3\att) in 18.8 min
age 18.1 - 6'10 - ESPN #5 - projected 20-35

Rocco Zikarsky thru 11 games averaging: 5.7pts - 4.1 REB - .6 BLK - 54.2% -
age 18.3 - 7.3 - ESPN #7 - projected 20-40
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#64 » by Walton1one » Tue Dec 3, 2024 9:26 pm

Players on the move:

Dylan Harper
18.7 - 6'5 - Range 1-4
"Nobody can stay in front of him right now," one scout said. "He's big, strong, and knows how to use it to his advantage."

There's still room for growth to determine whether he can contend for the No. 1 pick.


Kasparas Jakucionis
18.5 yrs - 6'5 - Range 5-14
Jakucionis has moved into the top 10 of our Top 100 and has plenty of room to rise with Big Ten play starting later next week and nonconference matchups versus Duke, Tennessee and Missouri.


Kon Knueppel
19.3 - 6'7 - Range 4-12
NBA evaluators are still determining how much to weigh his average athletic profile against him -- he's not the fleetest of foot, nor does he have elite size on the wing -- but it has become hard to deny how well-rounded a performer Knueppel has been so far.


Tre Johnson
18.7 - 6'6 - Range 6-15
Scouts in Brooklyn loved Johnson's shotmaking versatility and how much of his shot creation and shotmaking comes off NBA-type moves. With a 6-10 wingspan and impressively built frame, there's little doubting his scoring talent, but we'll have to see if he can do it in a winning context in a more aesthetically pleasing fashion,


Drake Powell
19.2 - 6'6 - Range 8-15
Powell is likely going to be somewhat of an acquired taste for some NBA teams, as his lack of shot-creation prowess, thin frame and inconsistent scoring ability will require astute observers to dig in beyond box scores and highlights to reveal the ways he contributes to winning with his passing, defense and feel for the game.


Edgecome
Edgecombe's incredible explosiveness gives him considerable upside projecting to the more wide-open NBA, and he has shown flashes of passing and instincts getting in passing lanes (2.1 steals), protecting the rim (1.6 blocks) and crashing the glass to show his grit and activity.


Demin
Quite a few pro scouts will be watching to see how the projected top-10 pick continues to grow, as he clearly has a rare gift with his 6-foot-9 frame and unselfishness, but showing more of a willingness to put his imprint on games in key moments will be important moving forward


Riley
Riley has carved out a strong role, seeing steady doses of shot-creation opportunities and shooting 18-for-36 on 3s through seven games -- eye-opening stuff for a 6-foot-8 18-year-old. He'll have a strong platform to establish himself as a potential lottery pick if he can grow defensively and with his scoring efficiency inside the arc.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#65 » by Village Idiot » Thu Dec 5, 2024 8:56 pm

A guy who has caught my attention who could be on the board with a late first or early second is Thomas Sorber of Georgetown. Reminds me a lot of Jaren Jackson Jr.

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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#66 » by Walton1one » Thu Dec 5, 2024 11:55 pm

Village Idiot wrote:A guy who has caught my attention who could be on the board with a late first or early second is Thomas Sorber of Georgetown. Reminds me a lot of Jaren Jackson Jr.

https://youtu.be/czlSoscUJio?si=Xf6_vk0-CIFmojoz&t=295


Yeah, he is having a great start to the season, especially for a freshman

15.8pts - 8.9 REB - 2.8 AST - 60.8% FG - 30% 3ptFG% (1.3att/g) - Also averaging closes to 2 BLK & 2 STL a game

They haven't really played anyone yet though.

His shooting form looks solid, and he can knock down catch-and-shoot threes at a respectable clip although it has been on low volume up to this point. While his shooting remains a question, he has contributed to floor spacing in other ways. Sorber has a great feel for the game, particularly as an offensive hub. He effectively runs hand-offs from the top of the key and spots cutters while his defender steps out to stay with him. Though this part of his game is not as developed as others, the flashes of potential are extremely promising.


Another sleeper prospect (most likely 2nd round)

Joseph Tugler - Houston
19.5 - 6'7 - Range: 25-50

USA Basketball measured Tugler at 6-foot-7 in shoes and 223 pounds a year-and-a-half ago, but he has a 7-6 wingspan that allows him to play significantly bigger than his height.

The way he gets in a stance, turns his hips, slides his feet and mirrors opponents on the perimeter, smothering with his wingspan, has been impressive. His 14% block percentage is the second-best mark among Top 100 prospects, but he also gets in passing lanes often due to his off-the-ball approach. The rest of Tugler's game is still a work in progress,
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#67 » by Walton1one » Thu Dec 5, 2024 11:57 pm

Love to see POR get another pick in this draft, be it another 1st rounder or a 2nd rounder. Right now all they have is their own pick, and the ATL 2nd round pick looks destined to go to OKC (like they need more picks)
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#68 » by Walton1one » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:31 pm

Article from Bleacher Report with some interesting comments on some of the top prospects. I listed a few of the more interesting comments on some of them:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10145825-2025-mens-college-basketball-early-report-card-grades-for-top-freshmen

EGOR DEMIN
The Russian point guard has skyrocketed up the mock draft boards, to the point where he's pretty much a unanimous top-five pick now.


DYLAN HARPER
the amount of scoring prowess surrounding Harper on this Rutgers roster is lacking, making it hard to fault him for the occasional possessions where he doesn't even entertain the idea of passing the ball.


DERIK QUEEN
Maryland's big man is 0-for-10 from three-point range, but he has been unstoppable when sticking to what he does best.


COOPER FLAGG
After all of the preseason hype that Flagg received, it might feel like he hasn't been all he was cracked up to be, because he isn't quite the 'can't look away' instant sensation that Zion Williamson was six years ago.

But he has been one of the best players in the nation on both ends of the floor, as was to be expected.


TRE JOHNSON
He's averaging better than three made three-pointers per game, shooting 50 percent inside the arc and converting on better than 85 percent of free throws.

What else does he provide to the box score? Well, not much. He just tallied his first offensive rebound of the season late in Wednesday's win over NC State and has nearly as many turnovers (18) as he does assists, steals and blocks combined (22).


ASA NEWELL
Newell has been particularly stout on the offensive glass, actually tallying more offensive rebounds than defensive rebounds through nine games.
It's one thing to be 6'11" and not a great three-point shooter, but it's another thing to continue taking more than two perimeter jumpers per game while converting at a 15.8 percent clip.


ACE BAILEY
Not only has he been a bit of a black hole with the ball—averaging one assist for every 23 field-goal attempts—but he has been too happy to settle for difficult shots.
All that said, would be a little ridiculous to go any lower than an A- for a stud averaging 19 points per game after starting the season on the shelf.


KON KNEUPPEL
Against Kentucky, Arizona, Kansas and Auburn, though, he went 4-for-23 and struggled to make any real impact, aside from a couple of dagger triples late against the Wildcats.


WILL RILEY
This Canadian first-year star has shot 18-for-36 from distance, though, including a 31-point performance in his collegiate debut.

Need him to show up against a quality opponent before we go any higher than a B here.


VJ EDGECOME
Edgecombe already has one of the longest highlight reels of any freshman in the country. And he does admirably fill up the box score, particularly on the defensive end of the floor.

For the fifth-highest-rated recruit, though, the overall impact has been modest—as are his shooting percentages.


DRAKE POWELL
Powell is averaging nearly five minutes played per field-goal attempt, scoring more than seven points in only one of eight contests thus far.
Nothing wrong with a glue guy who's active on defense and who has great shooting percentages when he does tee them up. The 4-4 Tar Heels probably need this potential lottery pick to get more assertive,


KHAMAN MALUACH
On the one hand, Maluach is making 80.6 percent of his two-point attempts, as well as 80 percent of his free-throw attempts.

On the other hand, the No. 4 overall recruit in this class had a combined six points and four rebounds in 38 minutes played in the recent games against Kansas and Auburn, has blocked two total shots in his last five games and just has not (yet) been the game-changer in the paint we thought he would be.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#69 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:45 pm

I never got the Maluach hype. He was getting Top-10 placement on mocks (And still is in many places).

When a guy like DC, a MUCH better prospect, goes 7 in a weak draft how are people placing Khaman in a similar spot in a much, much better draft?

He will have a Aaron Bradshaw like fall and end up returning to school IMO.
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Post#70 » by Walton1one » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:23 pm

Some Interesting comments (and comparisons?) regarding some of the International prospects:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10145090-2025-nba-mock-draft-pro-comparisons-and-full-2-round-predictions

NOLAN TRAORE - they have him mocked to POR
comp: Lonzo Ball (weird comparison IMO)
NBA teams have an interesting challenge of weighing Nolan Traore's pre-2024 Saint-Quentin tape with his current struggles and age-18 production in Pro A.

Passing IQ still sets him apart. While he's struggled from the floor, he continues to dish out assists and showcase a knack for getting teammates the ball in high-percentage scoring spots. A 41.9 assist percentage ranks higher than any other point guard's in the first-round discussion.


BEN SARAF
comp: Manu Ginobli (I don't see that? Not sure he is athletic as Manu was (they even question his athleticism?)
Saraf is shifty with the ball and improvises well. Even through off games, he's looked consistently threatening with shooting off the catch and dribble. And despite limited explosion showing at the rim, he's still shown he can convert with adjustments and tough finishes.

Teams may question his athleticism and shooting mechanics for NBA three-point range, but he can still be effective against pros at 18 years old, and his crafty playmaking (35.0 assist percentage) can act as a nice cushion in case the scoring doesn't fully translate.


NOA ESSENGUE
comp: Jabari Walker\Precious Achiuwa (yikes)
He uses every inch of his size and length to finish off plays around the basket. He frequently puts himself in position to get an easy bucket by timing his cuts or grabbing offensive boards.
Essengue hasn't converted a post-up or pull-up jump shot this season. It does feel safe to assume he won't ever be a player who initiates offense, but he does have the potential to interest a lot of teams that still value the two-way versatility archetype, which his physical profile and complementary skill set create.


HUGO GONZALEZ - comparison in Jonathan Kuminga :o
Hugo Gonzalez has played fewer than nine minutes in seven consecutive games.

Over the years, he's built a strong reputation over his athletic scoring plays and defensive competitiveness. Last season and summer, he started to deliver more flashes of self-creation and shotmaking.

His stock will likely be all over the place, depending on teams' willingness to put more stock into the FIBA, junior-level and ANGT tape.


ROCCO ZIKARSKY - comparison to Clingan? & Kessler
Zikarsky needs to really excel in the paint, given his limitations as a post scorer and shooter.

Defensively, he's made some impressive plays chasing ball-handlers to the rim in pick-and-roll situations. He's been less effective getting out on shooters.


NOAH PENDA - He had a pre-draft workout for POR this summer
comp: to POR\Batum
He's at 40.0 percent from three for the year, giving his lineup a shotmaker and floor spacer who passes/moves the ball, finishes plays and makes them defensively.

Only four NCAA freshmen or sophomores can currently match Penda's 15.0+ assist rate, 3.0+ steal rate and 5.0+ block rate, and three are in our projected first round.
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Post#71 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:38 pm

Those comparisons are wild lol
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Post#72 » by Walton1one » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:38 pm

A couple of notes on other players mentioned here and elsewhere

KASPARAS JAKUCIONIS
comp: Chauncey Billups?
The eye test on Kasparas Jakucionis' playmaking backs up the numbers. He shows outstanding command in pick-and-roll situations, knowing what speeds to operate at and how to free up and hit the big. His vision is obvious on drives, and he knows where his shooters are before he make his move into the paint.

And he's also ben efficient as a scorer, using touch shots and impressive shotmaking improvisation off the dribble. Though he's not a shot-hunter who'll threaten for 20 points every night, he's done an admirable job picking his spots and capitalizing on what the defense gives up.

Right now, Jakucionis has a 67.4 true shooting percentage and 32.7 assist percentage. UCLA's Lonzo Ball and Long Island's Jason Brickman have been the only other NCAA freshmen to notch those numbers.


I am warming to Jakucionis. Vecenie spoke glowingly of him as well, and the thought of him alongside Clingan\Deni and a facilitator for Sharpe\Camara finishing is intriguing. If POR keeps playing better than expected and ends up in the #6-#10 range, then he would be a player to consider

JEREMIAH FEARS
19yrs - 6'4 - They have him in the top 20
Now up to 17.0 points and 4.4 assists, he's generating offense and standing out with ultra-quick dribble moves and burst for getting to his spots and creating opportunities. Along with the rim pressure and 6.8 free-throw attempts per game, his aggression and speed have also translated to defensive playmaking and 2.5 steals per game.


THOMAS SORBER
18yrs - 6'10 - Mentioned here, also projected in top 20
Through eight games against mostly inferior opponents, he ranks No. 1 among freshmen in BPM by consistently scoring from post position, finishing cuts and rolls, owning the offensive glass and disrupting offenses with his size and length.

He's even averaging 2.8 assists, demonstrating impressive processing inside the arc and passing accuracy throwing entry passes and darts from behind the arc.
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Post#73 » by zzaj » Fri Dec 6, 2024 10:28 pm

Johni Broom at #50 on that list, lol.

I'm a fan of his though so :lol:
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Post#74 » by DusterBuster » Fri Dec 6, 2024 10:39 pm

Way too early for playing the Tankathon, but Blazers captured the Flagg on the first try, so that's my day.
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Post#75 » by Jstock12 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 11:13 am

Walton1one wrote:A couple of notes on other players mentioned here and elsewhere

KASPARAS JAKUCIONIS
comp: Chauncey Billups?
The eye test on Kasparas Jakucionis' playmaking backs up the numbers. He shows outstanding command in pick-and-roll situations, knowing what speeds to operate at and how to free up and hit the big. His vision is obvious on drives, and he knows where his shooters are before he make his move into the paint.

And he's also ben efficient as a scorer, using touch shots and impressive shotmaking improvisation off the dribble. Though he's not a shot-hunter who'll threaten for 20 points every night, he's done an admirable job picking his spots and capitalizing on what the defense gives up.

Right now, Jakucionis has a 67.4 true shooting percentage and 32.7 assist percentage. UCLA's Lonzo Ball and Long Island's Jason Brickman have been the only other NCAA freshmen to notch those numbers.


I am warming to Jakucionis. Vecenie spoke glowingly of him as well, and the thought of him alongside Clingan\Deni and a facilitator for Sharpe\Camara finishing is intriguing. If POR keeps playing better than expected and ends up in the #6-#10 range, then he would be a player to consider

JEREMIAH FEARS
19yrs - 6'4 - They have him in the top 20
Now up to 17.0 points and 4.4 assists, he's generating offense and standing out with ultra-quick dribble moves and burst for getting to his spots and creating opportunities. Along with the rim pressure and 6.8 free-throw attempts per game, his aggression and speed have also translated to defensive playmaking and 2.5 steals per game.


THOMAS SORBER
18yrs - 6'10 - Mentioned here, also projected in top 20
Through eight games against mostly inferior opponents, he ranks No. 1 among freshmen in BPM by consistently scoring from post position, finishing cuts and rolls, owning the offensive glass and disrupting offenses with his size and length.

He's even averaging 2.8 assists, demonstrating impressive processing inside the arc and passing accuracy throwing entry passes and darts from behind the arc.

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Post#76 » by Walton1one » Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:36 am

I was checking this out while posting in another thread, but as of today...

The top 3 seem pretty locked in: Flagg (consensus #1), Harper & Bailey

After that, there are (4) players who have been in the top 10 on most mocks that I have seen: Edgecome, Traore, Tre Johnson, Maluach

After that (3) players who are rising and in newer mocks are in the top 10 (top 5 for 1-2 of them?): Demin, Jakucionis, Kneuppel

Then you have (3) players who around top 10: Newell, McNeeley, Fland (really rising)

Saraf & Essengue could each sneak into the back end of the top 10 as well

A couple of interesting notes:

ESPN's last mock draft (month ago) had Jakucionis at #16, but in risers\sleepers a week ago had his range at #5-14, Vecenie (in October) has had him at #6, so ahead of the curve, Hoop Intellect has him at #4, BR #6

ESPN also had Newell at #20, both Vecenie (#7), Hoop Intellect (#10) had him in the top 10. Curious to see where ESPN ranks him next mock, I imagine it will be up from #20

Fland is another, ESPN #36\Vecenie #33, hoop intellect #9, Bleacher report (most recent) #11, so he could rise into the top #10

On the other end, Demin is at #7 on ESPN, Vecenie has him at #23 (edit) but in one of his latest podcasts he said he would have Demin in top 4, possibly top 2. Hoop Intellect (#8), Bleacher Report #10 & Kevin O'Conner (doesn't have a mock yet, but 5-10 was his range) also have him in top 10. Curious KOC talked about Demin as probably more of a wing and not a lead guard. Everyone hedging on how he plays in big 12 play.

Also, Vecenie has Tre Johnson at #21, ESPN #9, Hoop Intellect #7, Bleacher Report #5

Vecenie has Maluach (#20) lower than most who have him top 10, ESPN #8, HI #5, BR @ #8

McNeeley looks like a lottery pick but outside (#11-14) the top 10.

Kneuppel #6-10 range

Edgecome #4-6, even with his struggles. Can't say that I am surprised though, he has struggled but the athleticism and defense really stand out. ESPN #4, Vecenie #4, HI #6, BR #4

Traore, even with League A struggles also solidly in #5-10 range, ESPN #5, Vecenie #5, BR #7, HI has him at #11

I am not really liking the idea of Tre Johnson (Simons vibes), Maluach (project big, they have DC already) for POR.

Newell is also little concerning, like the PF archetype, but his lack of shooting concerns me (probably doesn't for Cronin, lol)

Edgecome is a real wildcard, uber athletic, shooting\size concerns, but I don't know if you can pass on him? The upside could be big

So, assuming that POR does not get in the top 3, and they are picking #5 down. I think you are looking at a guard and fortunately there are some intriguing "big" guards potentially there Demin, Jakucionis, Traore are all compelling for one reason or another. That would seem to be the likely way to go, especially since POR backcourt is in no way "locked in".

Other than that, currently I only see (3) other options right now: Kneuppel, McNeeley (would it be a reach?) or Newell
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#77 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:17 am

I wish JT Toppin had improved his 3. On paper, outside that skill, he looks like a great fit at PF. But IMO any PF that cant spread the floor is a hard fit long term w/ DC being a more traditional big (Even if he can shoot a few 3's - he will be in the post mostly)
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Post#78 » by Walton1one » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:14 pm

Just finished podcast from Vecenie, where they took questions on the 2025 draft, some interesting comments in it, the last question in particular would be of interest to POR fans.

“ Should POR, if they don’t land in the top 3, draft a guard”

The answer was yes if Demin, Jakucionis, Traore (I think) were on the board, they should over reaching for Kneuppel\McNeeley.

So basically, unless they get Flagg/Bailey, it looks like POR would take a guard unless they fell farther down the lottery.

Thought that any of the big PG could work alongside Scoot if needed, as POR likely not to give up on him after only two years at age 20, a little more concern regarding the fit with Edgecombe

Said Scoot has been disappointing, not a surprise, but it’s not his skills, it’s entirely his decision-making and at this point he needs to earn it

Felt there is a clear tier of 4 players, And within that tier some mini tiers

Flagg

Demin, Harper

Bailey

After that, Jakucionis Looks like a clear #5

Interesting comparison for Demin, top end, a taller Halliburton (the one LY), bottom end more like the Halliburton this year (the one struggling), It all comes down to his offense/shooting
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#79 » by Walton1one » Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:59 pm

ESPN risers\fallers

Quick recap:
- Harper to #2 - Viewed as more NBA ready than Bailey
- Edgecome remains at #4
No one in college can stay in front of Edgecombe's first step, and he has real feel as a passer to make plays for others as he gets a paint touch virtually anytime he is asked to create a shot for himself -- something that will be accentuated more vividly in the far more wide-open, up-tempo NBA.

His outstanding basketball instincts also show on the defensive end, where he has emerged as one of the best playmakers in college, with a combined block/steal (7.8%/4.7%) rate we haven't seen since Matisse Thybulle (Washington) in 2019.


- Traore @ #5
Even when he's not playing well, Traore's sheer talent pops in a major way, as no one can stay in front of him and he's able to generate good shots for teammates in volume with his outstanding ballhandling ability, burst, court vision and passing creativity, while hitting pull-up 3-pointers prolifically.

It's nearly unheard of for an 18-year-old to post a 30%-plus usage rate at this level of competition, something that's been done only once in the past 40 years of European basketball -- by a player named Victor Wembanyama. Traore did it as a 17-year-old last season in a small nine-game sample and is doing the same this year.


- Kneuppel @ #6
...emerging as a far more versatile shot creator, passer and defender than expected. He is already ranking as one of the best pick-and-roll players in this freshman class...Knueppel has played mistake-free basketball, posting a minuscule 8% turnover percentage to this point, a testament to his feel for the game.


- Demin up 4 spots to #7
He's the most gifted passer in this class, able to deliver passes through tight crevices with velocity and accuracy from difficult vantage points, stringing together incredible highlights while also hitting shots from beyond the arc (39%). Demin lacks explosiveness and physicality as a shot creator and finisher, often looking passive with his approach and not being a very good defender either at this stage. He has been criticized for a lack of toughness at different stages of his career.


- Jakucionis up 7 spots to #8
His ability to process the floor, make decisions and score efficiently as an 18-year-old with an expansive role has been hard to ignore. His heavy offensive workload, coupled with average foot speed, have made him a defensive liability at times, but his instincts, quick hands and willingness to rebound at his size have helped him contribute.


- Maluach down 1 spot to #9
There simply aren't many legit 7-footers out there with Maluach's type of length (7-6 wingspan), defensive instincts, mobility and competitiveness. In a draft class shaping up as largely devoid of high-quality rim-protecting bigs, Maluach will hold plenty of appeal come draft night.


- Tre Johnson @ #10 (up 4 spots)
The big-picture concern with Johnson's projection is whether his style of play will be conducive to winning basketball in an NBA context, due to the number of tough shots he takes, and bouts of tunnel vision and questionable decision-making. He's not adding much value yet on the defensive end to prop that up.


Others of note:
- McNeeley @ #15 (down 5 spots)
McNeeley is a much better shooter than he has shown to this point (35% on 3s) and will have more chances to remind scouts of what makes him a highly regarded all-around player... With UConn lacking shot creation in its backcourt, McNeeley has been forced to step outside his comfort zone as a ball handler and playmaker, which will likely be beneficial for him in the long term.

- Fears @ #16 (was unranked)
Fears' combination of size, speed, pace, shot creation and scoring instincts is impressive, as he has gotten virtually anywhere he wants on the floor while living at the free throw line. He has done a solid job of creating for teammates executing Oklahoma's offense while making jumpers and finishing skillfully in the lane, showing good instincts on both ends.
- Murray-Boyles @ #18 (down 6)


- Labaron Philon #19 (was unranked)
- Thiero rounds out top 20 (was #40)
- Queen is @ #23 (up 2)
The long-term questions center on Queen's defensive projection, as he's a bit undersized for a true 5, and not the most fleet of foot covering ground or consistently impactful around the rim.


This is what Vecenie noted as well, defense is BAD

- Newell is at #24
Though more of a project player at this stage due to his limited skill level, Newell has potential to grow into a stretch-4 with nice defensive mobility and motor, giving him a pathway into an eventual role.

- Fland @ #40
- Toppin @ #60
- Broome @ #61
- Sorber\Georgetown - not in top 100?
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#80 » by Tim Lehrbach » Sat Dec 14, 2024 4:53 pm

I have seen and researched very little, but so far the only player I 100% believe in is Dylan Harper. Well, maybe 95% believe in because I don't think he projects as a prolific deep shooter unless he quickens the gather and release. Everything else about his game screams functional athleticism (with great guard size) and instinctual feel. I see the type of lead guard who is elite (or nearly so) from the jump, which changes everything overnight. See Roy, Brandon and Lillard, Damian.

Won't matter when we pick 6th and draft a center.
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