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PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#421 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:03 pm

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Gravy wrote:Choose 1 to bring back on a good contract.

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That’s tough, IQ prob need less with Deuce leveling up so much and Cam too, Donte offensively would be great, but not as good defensively and off the bench for some reason… might have to go with Grimes for the 3&D at multiple positions. No GM is perfect, but Leon really wet the bed on that trade…

Can’t believe why anyone would pick RJ


All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#422 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:04 pm

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#423 » by Wildcat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:04 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Happy the Knicks won, but why we pumping our chest out on barely beating them after being embarrassed by the Hornets last week?


Who is pumping out there chest? Seems to me like people are worried we lose the next game to ATL.


I've read the last 4 pages. Sounds like bolstering.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#424 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:04 pm

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Could it be both? Again? :lol:

The word on the street is that we need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work. So that's on the HC not being able to adjust. The thing we are seeing is that the players are incrementally improving as well. That's on the players figuring it out.

Losing Precious and not having Mitch definitely hurts the team defensively. We also lost both Payne and Deuce for decent little stretches at the same time. MB/OG/Hart are all learning to play together at the same time. In a system that prioritizes protecting the paint over defending the perimeter.

Seems like a little bit of both to me.


Both? huh... :lol:


OBVIOUSLY! :rofl: You can't act like Thibs system doesn't hurt the team. We are one of the worst three point defensive teams and that is ENTIRELY on Thibs.


No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!! :rofl:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#425 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:09 pm

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By the way, where’s old man shammgod these days? Getting an iron lung?

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#426 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:10 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Happy the Knicks won, but why we pumping our chest out on barely beating them after being embarrassed by the Hornets last week?


Who is pumping out there chest? Seems to me like people are worried we lose the next game to ATL.


I've read the last 4 pages. Sounds like bolstering.


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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#427 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:13 pm

stuporman wrote:
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Both? huh... :lol:


OBVIOUSLY! :rofl: You can't act like Thibs system doesn't hurt the team. We are one of the worst three point defensive teams and that is ENTIRELY on Thibs.


No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!! :rofl:


It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#428 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:15 pm

Guano wrote:I no longer trust my judgement of mikal. Cause this sht doesn't seem true at all.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#429 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:18 pm

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spree8 wrote:
Gravy wrote:Choose 1 to bring back on a good contract.

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That’s tough, IQ prob need less with Deuce leveling up so much and Cam too, Donte offensively would be great, but not as good defensively and off the bench for some reason… might have to go with Grimes for the 3&D at multiple positions. No GM is perfect, but Leon really wet the bed on that trade…

Can’t believe why anyone would pick RJ


All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#430 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:20 pm

Reign23 wrote:I am so ready for the Hawks game. we better not **** up this …


I have an opinion on that...
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#431 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:22 pm

Do you think it has been talked about enough that Brunson was on the bench during the last possessions? I’m not cynical but mean it when I say the leadership and trust-level are already off the charts. This team is the real deal.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#432 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:22 pm

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I have an opinion on that...

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#433 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:22 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
spree8 wrote:

That’s tough, IQ prob need less with Deuce leveling up so much and Cam too, Donte offensively would be great, but not as good defensively and off the bench for some reason… might have to go with Grimes for the 3&D at multiple positions. No GM is perfect, but Leon really wet the bed on that trade…

Can’t believe why anyone would pick RJ


All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.

DiVincenzo. Heart of a champion.


I would take him back in a minute but, he is buns off the bench and doesn't really defend all that well. Grimes would fit off the bench immediately.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#434 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:24 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Image


By the way, where’s old man shammgod these days? Getting an iron lung?

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After all these years, you can’t miss the best part now :o
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#435 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:25 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
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All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.

DiVincenzo. Heart of a champion.


I would take him back in a minute but, he is buns off the bench and doesn't really defend all that well. Grimes would fit off the bench immediately.

Come on man, you’ve seen him ball out in the playoffs. He’s just freezing his a** off in Minnesota.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#436 » by Wildcat » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:26 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Do you think it has been talked about enough that Brunson was on the bench during the last possessions? I’m not cynical but mean it when I say the leadership and trust-level are already off the charts. This team is the real deal.


So he, in fact, didn't want dick?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#437 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:27 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:RJ already became a 20ppg on league avg efficiency which we were told was impossible.... RJ can def continue to get better as we have seen.

And he has yet to meet the 0 line in EPM and other impact metrics since his sophomore season.

His offense has improved - he's now a mildly efficient (last year) or mildly inefficient (this year) volume scorer, coming from one of the worst in the league. It's significant progress, and one I didn't see coming. But he has one of the lowest if not the lowest offensive impact among player with a usage rate in the high 20s or 30s (29.8). Those numbers are an illusion outside of the Raptors context.

More importantly, his defense continues to be one of the worst among wing players in the NBA. Which is why his improvement on offense only has a marginal effect on his overall impact, and why his impact scores have remained relatively stable below 0.

He's not close to being a "good player" all around. Unless impacting winning isn't a factor.

Good thing it's no longer our problem.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#438 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:28 pm

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OBVIOUSLY! :rofl: You can't act like Thibs system doesn't hurt the team. We are one of the worst three point defensive teams and that is ENTIRELY on Thibs.


No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!! :rofl:


It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.


You're wrong.

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#439 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:28 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:DiVincenzo. Heart of a champion.


I would take him back in a minute but, he is buns off the bench and doesn't really defend all that well. Grimes would fit off the bench immediately.

Come on man, you’ve seen him ball out in the playoffs. He’s just freezing his a** off in Minnesota.


Yeah but, he was a starter for us then. He was not very good as a bench player and he isn't this year either. If we could start him and bench Mikal I would be ok with that but, we just sent out 5 FRPs for a bench player?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#440 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:29 pm

stuporman wrote:
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No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!! :rofl:


It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.


You're wrong.

:rofl:


No. Walk away now. Your having another emotional meltdown and it's ruining the season! :rofl2:
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