Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets)

[God Squad]

I don't see a huge market for an aging Butler. I'm not sure which contender will be willing to give up young players and picks.

[DusterBuster]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

if you are going to consolidate, i'm not sure 36 year old jimmy is the guy to do it with especially considering his volatile personality. it may match up with udoka but the downside outweighs the upside imho.

The Rockets gave Dillon Brooks 20mil a year... They aren't that worried about volatile personalities.

[DusterBuster]

I know Houston fans are poo-pooing this, but the Rockets FO has not shied away from bringing in older vets.

I could easily see them wanting to consolidate some players and picks to bring in Jimmy to pair with JVV and Brooks, but not sure how the money can be matched.

if you are going to consolidate, i'm not sure 36 year old jimmy is the guy to do it with especially considering his volatile personality. it may match up with udoka but the downside outweighs the upside imho.

I feel like one or both of Brooks and FVV would be going out in the trade. Houston needs salary to match Jimmy and isn't going to want to send many young assets at Jimmy's age.

Fred Van Vleet for Jimmy straight up works in the trade checker. Maybe Houston throws in a couple of 2nds.

This is actually interesting. It would open up the starting role for Amen Thompson, who is reportedly untouchable in Houston - so they clearly think he's the PG of the future. If healthy, a group of...

Thompson
Jimmy
Brooks

is a hell of a 1-3 defensively. Small window, but they would be a tough out for any team.

[Wolfgang630]

I’ve seen Denver brought up. No you don’t want butler. You’d have to give up at least MPJ. Your 3 point shooting is low enough as it is

[Bloodbather]

If a trade for Jimmy happens, I expect his destination to be Golden State, not Houston. The Warriors are in a situation where a short-term move like this makes sense, Steph and Draymond are in their twilight years and their team is pretty good but not good enough to contend. Jimmy could move the needle. The Rockets, on the other hand, are not as close and they have a young team so should be thinking long term.

Wiggins, Kuminga, and a couple of first round picks probably gets it done. Has to be a three-team trade to match the salaries.

[Iwasawitness]

Well Jalen Green sucks. So trading him for anyone is addition by subtraction. I've gone blue in the face trying to tell this forum how bad he was for the last 4 years but it's getting hard to deny at this point. Trade the guy to a tanking team and let him put up a billion shots because that's the only thing he can do. The dude has a -13 net rating this year so far but you've got a few delusional people left still excited cause he can score 20ppg. Gotten worse each season of his career.

What are Butler's antics that you referenced that are so uncontrollable?

That’s great and all, but Jalen Green can’t be traded this year. Multiple people have pointed that out to you and for some reason you aren’t getting it.

Who are you?

He can be traded as someone else pointed out but it just means whoever trades for him is going to have to pay more so he's just harder to move.

Now shoo

It’s almost impossible for him to be traded. So it’s pointless to keep mentioning it.

[Effigy]

If a trade for Jimmy happens, I expect his destination to be Golden State, not Houston. The Warriors are in a situation where a short-term move like this makes sense, Steph and Draymond are in their twilight years and their team is pretty good but not good enough to contend. Jimmy could move the needle. The Rockets, on the other hand, are not as close and they have a young team so should be thinking long term.

Wiggins, Kuminga, and a couple of first round picks probably gets it done. Has to be a three-team trade to match the salaries.

I doubt GS gives up both Kuminga and a first. Maybe not either, TBH. They wouldn't trade Kuminga for Paul George. Now they're throwing in a first too?

Wiggins, Payton and Anderson works according to the trade checker.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8817023

[Bloodbather]

If a trade for Jimmy happens, I expect his destination to be Golden State, not Houston. The Warriors are in a situation where a short-term move like this makes sense, Steph and Draymond are in their twilight years and their team is pretty good but not good enough to contend. Jimmy could move the needle. The Rockets, on the other hand, are not as close and they have a young team so should be thinking long term.

Wiggins, Kuminga, and a couple of first round picks probably gets it done. Has to be a three-team trade to match the salaries.

I doubt GS gives up both Kuminga and a first. Maybe not either, TBH.

Wiggins, Payton and Anderson works according to the trade checker.

That's cool, but it doesn't work according to the Heat.

[scrabbarista]

Would love to add Butler to Houston, but I don't see any possible deal that I would like. Then again, it's not my job to find such deals.

If a deal exists, it would be a big risk for Stone to take, as he already has more or less perfect standing reputationally.

EDIT: The FVV for Butler one is worth considering, for sure. But I'm not sure I would do it as Houston, and I'm not sure Miami would do it either. Unless someone could talk me into it, I'd probably rather just keep FVV. The scary part is Butler's availability.

[Effigy]

If a trade for Jimmy happens, I expect his destination to be Golden State, not Houston. The Warriors are in a situation where a short-term move like this makes sense, Steph and Draymond are in their twilight years and their team is pretty good but not good enough to contend. Jimmy could move the needle. The Rockets, on the other hand, are not as close and they have a young team so should be thinking long term.

Wiggins, Kuminga, and a couple of first round picks probably gets it done. Has to be a three-team trade to match the salaries.

I doubt GS gives up both Kuminga and a first. Maybe not either, TBH.

Wiggins, Payton and Anderson works according to the trade checker.

That's cool, but it doesn't work according to the Heat.

Are you sure? I seem to remember last year the Heat believe scraps for stars is a fair trade.

But more seriously, Butler is an expiring and they don't want to resign him, not sure they want him to finish the season. So they may just have to take the best offer they get.

[BBallFreak]

If a trade for Jimmy happens, I expect his destination to be Golden State, not Houston. The Warriors are in a situation where a short-term move like this makes sense, Steph and Draymond are in their twilight years and their team is pretty good but not good enough to contend. Jimmy could move the needle. The Rockets, on the other hand, are not as close and they have a young team so should be thinking long term.

Wiggins, Kuminga, and a couple of first round picks probably gets it done. Has to be a three-team trade to match the salaries.

I doubt GS gives up both Kuminga and a first. Maybe not either, TBH.

Wiggins, Payton and Anderson works according to the trade checker.

That's cool, but it doesn't work according to the Heat.

Correct. That's just terrible value if they're not including Kuminga. What's the point? It actually hurts us more than just not trading Jimmy and letting him opt out.

[jasonxxx102]

That’s great and all, but Jalen Green can’t be traded this year. Multiple people have pointed that out to you and for some reason you aren’t getting it.

Who are you?

He can be traded as someone else pointed out but it just means whoever trades for him is going to have to pay more so he's just harder to move.

Now shoo

It’s almost impossible for him to be traded. So it’s pointless to keep mentioning it.

but still can be traded, so go away

[Bloodbather]

I doubt GS gives up both Kuminga and a first. Maybe not either, TBH.

Wiggins, Payton and Anderson works according to the trade checker.

That's cool, but it doesn't work according to the Heat.

Are you sure? I seem to remember last year the Heat believe scraps for stars is a fair trade.

But more seriously, Butler is an expiring and they don't want to resign him, not sure they want him to finish the season. So they may just have to take the best offer they get.

I'd rather have nothing than trade for Wiggins' 3-year contract at 26M per year without getting Kuminga and/or picks in return.

[iamoti]

I dont see a offer for Butler that would make the Heat trade him

[Hoops3355]

Would love to add Butler to Houston, but I don't see any possible deal that I would like. Then again, it's not my job to find such deals.

If a deal exists, it would be a big risk for Stone to take, as he already has more or less perfect standing reputationally.

EDIT: The FVV for Butler one is worth considering, for sure. But I'm not sure I would do it as Houston, and I'm not sure Miami would do it either. Unless someone could talk me into it, I'd probably rather just keep FVV. The scary part is Butler's availability.

Yeah, I could see Riley getting a multi team trade going dude loves those. We have other guys who should move too Terry. Duncan Robinson low key would kill it on team with a big. I have nightmares thinking about him on the Nuggets or the Wolves.

[JujitsuFlip]

I'd say it's about time for the 2 sides to divorce.

2 Finals appearance and a 3rd ECF, that's a good run.

James Butler is getting old and his contract is super inflated.

[mademan]

If Knicks waited a few months, they couldve traded half of what they moved for Bridges and gotten a much better player and a real chance at a title.

What a shame

[ProcessDoctor]

Wiggins/Melton/GPII/picks for Butler works.

[BBallFreak]

Wiggins/Melton/GPII/picks for Butler works.

Not without Kuminga it doesn't.

[Capn'O]

Miami has been beyond open to trading Jimmy for awhile now. My guess is they have some traction and are preparing the fanbase.