PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24

[spree2kawhi]

Do you think it has been talked about enough that Brunson was on the bench during the last possessions? I’m not cynical but mean it when I say the leadership and trust-level are already off the charts. This team is the real deal.

So he, in fact, didn't want dick?

I think he was afraid dick would come through the back door if overplayed, and dick may have also been too long for him to recover around the rim. So, all things considered, it was probably wise to play it safe and sit that one out.

Edit: Dick could have easily shot him in the face too. You wouldn’t want to take any risks in that situation. Let someone else take dick. That said, did Hart and him swap jerseys?

[spree2kawhi]

I would take him back in a minute but, he is buns off the bench and doesn't really defend all that well. Grimes would fit off the bench immediately.

Come on man, you’ve seen him ball out in the playoffs. He’s just freezing his a** off in Minnesota.

Yeah but, he was a starter for us then. He was not very good as a bench player and he isn't this year either. If we could start him and bench Mikal I would be ok with that but, we just sent out 5 FRPs for a bench player?

I like all the choices. Bridges will be a huge factor for us. But I like that there aren’t 6 images but 5 and a blank spot.

[stuporman]

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

You're wrong.

No. Walk away now. Your having another emotional meltdown and it's ruining the season!

You're still wrong...

[Jalen Bluntson]

You're wrong.

No. Walk away now. Your having another emotional meltdown and it's ruining the season!

You're still wrong...

[spree2kawhi]

Btw, “Achiuwa-Dick“ would’ve been the greatest jersey swap ever. They let one slip away there.

[stuporman]

No. Walk away now. Your having another emotional meltdown and it's ruining the season!

You're still wrong...

Don't be mad you're wrong, just get right...

[KnixinSix]

Not a very inspiring team game. They have to get it together. Nail bitter against the Raptors???

Everyone trying to tell themselves how great this team has looked, when it hasn't looked that good all year.

I guess they need another 20 games to "gel"

Will 40 games be enough?
60?
80, just in time for the playoffs?

Precious is 3 games in and there is no mitch yet Thibs at last nights
presser said they still have work to do. Some of the players said they are still
working on defensive communication. There's a fine line between "excuses" and "cause and effect".
They have definitely gotten better and we're 24 games in...58 more to go....4th seed in the east and 8th in the nba...
Of course I would love to be 21-3 but as long as we continue to improve and stay in the mix until Mitch comes back-
I'm good with us exploding once Mitch has adapted to the new team

SOmetimes getting all the communication downtakes time , other times it is just too complex no matter how much time you try and learn it and actually slows down the players processing and reaction time.

That is a very fine line in ANY sport not just basketball. Ravens for instance like to employ KISS (keep it simple stupid) and focus on the players just ballin without making it too complex. Now that doesn't mean there is no nuance but they keep the 'reads' simpler.

[KnixinSix]

Choose 1 to bring back on a good contract.

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That’s tough, IQ prob need less with Deuce leveling up so much and Cam too, Donte offensively would be great, but not as good defensively and off the bench for some reason… might have to go with Grimes for the 3&D at multiple positions. No GM is perfect, but Leon really wet the bed on that trade…

Can’t believe why anyone would pick RJ

All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.

Quickly man. He is a dead eye shooter that would just add to our spacing and is an efficient scorer. He also plays great D and is smart.

[Jalen Bluntson]

You're still wrong...

Don't be mad you're wrong, just get right...

I'm not mad or wrong. You're boring me now. Run along and see things with a narrow mind all you want. You clearly can't see the big picture on anything.

[KnixinSix]

OBVIOUSLY! You can't act like Thibs system doesn't hurt the team. We are one of the worst three point defensive teams and that is ENTIRELY on Thibs.

No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!!

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

[Jalen Bluntson]

That’s tough, IQ prob need less with Deuce leveling up so much and Cam too, Donte offensively would be great, but not as good defensively and off the bench for some reason… might have to go with Grimes for the 3&D at multiple positions. No GM is perfect, but Leon really wet the bed on that trade…

Can’t believe why anyone would pick RJ

All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.

Quickly man. He is a dead eye shooter that would just add to our spacing and is an efficient scorer. He also plays great D and is smart.

He's a great option. None of it will ever happen though so, whatever. The most realistic answer is Grimes. Second Donte. The good contract part is the issue. So is health. IQ has been hurt since leaving. I would take IQ over them both in a perfect world.

[Jalen Bluntson]

No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!!

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

I think we need a bench wing Thibs will actually play. Then we can worry about Mitch insurance. Precious still hasn't played enough to know exactly how he fits in. I like what little we have seen from him so far.

I just know we can't keep playing Mikal/OG 40+ minutes a game and risk losing them for the playoffs. Pac has shown flashes but, maniac won't play him at all. It's like we need 10 starters for Thibs to trust the bench.

I would love to get a Mitch replacement and a bench wing who will actually play. Not sure how that works out but, the cap/apron make it harder than it has to be.

[stuporman]

No, it's this both concept...I mean, it seems strange...can it be applied to more than one thing or is it for only one thing? Wait...maybe both!!!

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

[MrDollarBills]

Read on Twitter

*snickers*

Ah. Gotta love it.

Hart had that one cocked and loaded for weeks.

Oh for sure. Well played

[KnixinSix]

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

I think we need a bench wing Thibs will actually play. Then we can worry about Mitch insurance. Precious still hasn't played enough to know exactly how he fits in. I like what little we have seen from him so far.

I just know we can't keep playing Mikal/OG 40+ minutes a game and risk losing them for the playoffs. Pac has shown flashes but, maniac won't play him at all. It's like we need 10 starters for Thibs to trust the bench.

I would love to get a Mitch replacement and a bench wing who will actually play. Not sure how that works out but, the cap/apron make it harder than it has to be.

I still think the 5 is the priority due to the importance for Thibs prefered system. However I do agree a nice adidtional wing type would be helpful.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

I think we need a bench wing Thibs will actually play. Then we can worry about Mitch insurance. Precious still hasn't played enough to know exactly how he fits in. I like what little we have seen from him so far.

I just know we can't keep playing Mikal/OG 40+ minutes a game and risk losing them for the playoffs. Pac has shown flashes but, maniac won't play him at all. It's like we need 10 starters for Thibs to trust the bench.

I would love to get a Mitch replacement and a bench wing who will actually play. Not sure how that works out but, the cap/apron make it harder than it has to be.

I still think the 5 is the priority due to the importance for Thibs prefered system. However I do agree a nice adidtional wing type would be helpful.

Can't argue needing Mitch at the very least either but, we do have Precious and we have players that can at least fill in some minutes. Thibs refuses to play anyone else but OG/Mikal though. That issue is just as important to me. We need them in the playoffs. He's gonna kill them before the ASB!

[BKlutch]

I don’t think Raps regret the OG trade. They weren’t winning any games with OG or Siakam so they needed to reset. Plus RJ has been really good for them. It’s not like they traded a key piece of a conference finals team for Randle and took a major step back for financial reasons. Raps trade is a win/win because both teams got what they wanted. TWolves on the other hand, well they got taken to the shed

They gave away a key player that made them serious contenders in exchange for the worst playoff performer in history.

Ricky Rubio didn't die for this.

This after giving up Walker Kessler and a boat load of picks for Gobert so they had to sacrifice KAT because of Gobert just to be where they are now when they could have just kept Kessler and built off what they had before Gobert. Yikes!

Leon was probably giving him trade ideas. It worked out well for us!

[bballoctober]

This forum deserves to have it sent a dick pic

which almost feels like you've been rick rolled at the same time

No Diddy.

[KnixinSix]

I think we need a bench wing Thibs will actually play. Then we can worry about Mitch insurance. Precious still hasn't played enough to know exactly how he fits in. I like what little we have seen from him so far.

I just know we can't keep playing Mikal/OG 40+ minutes a game and risk losing them for the playoffs. Pac has shown flashes but, maniac won't play him at all. It's like we need 10 starters for Thibs to trust the bench.

I would love to get a Mitch replacement and a bench wing who will actually play. Not sure how that works out but, the cap/apron make it harder than it has to be.

I still think the 5 is the priority due to the importance for Thibs prefered system. However I do agree a nice adidtional wing type would be helpful.

Can't argue needing Mitch at the very least either but, we do have Precious and we have players that can at least fill in some minutes. Thibs refuses to play anyone else but OG/Mikal though. That issue is just as important to me. We need them in the playoffs. He's gonna kill them before the ASB!

Precious is a little better than Sims overall since he adds some O but his rim protection is nowhere near the gravity of Mitch in the middle. Think of all dem teams Thibs has had here. Except when we had guys that were horrific premeiter D guys in Kemba and Fournier every D with Mitch (and then later more IHart) was above average to dominant.

[KnixinSix]

It is more about you offering only one answer to issues that have more than one problem. Both instances you offer BOTH problems yet only think one is the answer.

We need an elite rim protector for Thibs system to work at it peak. So that means we don't have the necessary players and the HC can't figure it out completely. BOTH.

We are also seeing the defense improve as the players get more comfortable but, we are still weak defending the three because of the system we run prioritizes the paint over the perimeter. BOTH.

It's not that complicated.

Just like the team going on runs after we make trades. The players are getting used to things and we added talent to the team. BOTH.

Again, not really that complicated.

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.

Some of our Realgm brethren also laughed when I said this team was going to get 2 or 3 bigname players too. Including KAT, Bridges and OG who were 3 of the top 5 candidates mentioned.