ImageImageImageImageImage

PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

User avatar
stuporman
RealGM
Posts: 32,044
And1: 21,059
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Location: optimistic skeptical realist

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#461 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:37 pm

Going into the game the Raptors were .500 at home this season so they play their best ball at home and R* has been playing at an all-star level at home.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
Image?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#462 » by KnixinSix » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:38 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
All of this. I would say Grimes would be the best grab on a good contract. It's never going to happen so, there is that. These players are all gone and the only one we gave away was Grimes. That trade kinda sucked long term but, in the end we got Mikal out of it so, not too shabby.



Quickly man. He is a dead eye shooter that would just add to our spacing and is an efficient scorer. He also plays great D and is smart.


He's a great option. None of it will ever happen though so, whatever. The most realistic answer is Grimes. Second Donte. The good contract part is the issue. So is health. IQ has been hurt since leaving. I would take IQ over them both in a perfect world.


Haven't been following him has his offense become capable yet or still not really.
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
User avatar
stuporman
RealGM
Posts: 32,044
And1: 21,059
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Location: optimistic skeptical realist

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#463 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:38 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
stuporman wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:

Too many folks are too black and white with their judgements and don't see all the nuance in the many shades of gray in the equation.

You pretty much nailed it.

Get a Richards or Kessler to COMPLEMENT the injury prone Robinson and Thibs will be basically able to run any type of D and more or less have the ideal players to execute it.


:rofl2:


Some of our Realgm brethren also laughed when I said this team was going to get 2 or 3 bigname players too. Including KAT, Bridges and OG who were 3 of the top 5 candidates mentioned.

:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
Image?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#464 » by KnixinSix » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:40 pm

stuporman wrote:Going into the game the Raptors were .500 at hone this season so they play their best ball at home and R* has been playing at an all-star level at home.


Very true it was an ugly win where we still didnt see our Grade A defensive game but still a quality win.
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#465 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:02 am

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
I still think the 5 is the priority due to the importance for Thibs prefered system. However I do agree a nice adidtional wing type would be helpful.


Can't argue needing Mitch at the very least either but, we do have Precious and we have players that can at least fill in some minutes. Thibs refuses to play anyone else but OG/Mikal though. That issue is just as important to me. We need them in the playoffs. He's gonna kill them before the ASB!


Precious is a little better than Sims overall since he adds some O but his rim protection is nowhere near the gravity of Mitch in the middle. Think of all dem teams Thibs has had here. Except when we had guys that were horrific premeiter D guys in Kemba and Fournier every D with Mitch (and then later more IHart) was above average to dominant.


Point is...we still have Mitch already here....in a few more weeks. :lol: I know but, he is still here. From outside looking in, we NEED a wing regardless of what we do about Mitch. Precious can help hold the fort and we still have Sims and Hukporti in case of emergency. Precious is a good defender. He's a lot better than Sims overall.

OG/Mikal playing 40+ is what my biggest concern is. Pac showed a little something on both sides to get at least 10mpg. Anything would help. Thibs is a maniac.
:beer: RIP mags
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#466 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:06 am

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:

Quickly man. He is a dead eye shooter that would just add to our spacing and is an efficient scorer. He also plays great D and is smart.


He's a great option. None of it will ever happen though so, whatever. The most realistic answer is Grimes. Second Donte. The good contract part is the issue. So is health. IQ has been hurt since leaving. I would take IQ over them both in a perfect world.


Haven't been following him has his offense become capable yet or still not really.


I don't remember much from last year and he has been injured so, there's nothing to go by but, he would be great next to Deuce and he gets Mikal off the court. Then again, they all get Mikal off the court. Whatever :lol: Those three guys I would take back. The other dudes? I'm good. RJ as a starter? No way in hell. Wonder if he would be a stud off the bench. Don't care to find out though.
:beer: RIP mags
User avatar
K_ick_God
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 80,879
And1: 43,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#467 » by K_ick_God » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:17 am

Pretty major that Mikal was hitting threes from all over the arc and in the clutch
User avatar
Capn'O
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 90,771
And1: 110,977
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#468 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:29 am

I'm probably in the minority but I think Gradey Duck would be an even funnier name than Gradey Dick.

Before responding, try saying Gradey Duck aloud. It's pretty funny.
BAF Clippers:
UNDER CONSTRUCTION - PLEASE INQUIRE WITHIN

:beer:
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 71,855
And1: 69,930
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#469 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:40 am

Capn'O wrote:
Gravy wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
For total value - IQ and don't look back.

For need - Grimes.

I like Divo and IQ a lot but we might need Obi the most to give OG more rest.


Thibs response:

Image


Obi done here :nod:
ctorres
RealGM
Posts: 17,790
And1: 6,034
Joined: Jun 04, 2005

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#470 » by ctorres » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:10 am

Standin on bidness!

User avatar
WaltFrazier
RealGM
Posts: 34,111
And1: 31,620
Joined: Jan 21, 2006
Location: Ontario Canada
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#471 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:28 am

robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:Shout out Brunson for 11 assists


After he made the 4 point play he has two bad plays. But he got the ball to KAT and had another big bucket. He ain’t perfect but he knows how to win and has the guts and smarts to get there.


This is the first time I remember thibs taking him out for defense on the raptors last big possession. We ended up getting the stop but then he wasn’t in the game on offense so Towns ended up hitting the 3. But it was a good adjustment by Thibs


Did we have a timeout left? I really like bringing Deuce in for JB defensively but against a better defense it would be good to get JB back in
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
User avatar
robillionaire
RealGM
Posts: 40,231
And1: 57,814
Joined: Jul 12, 2015
Location: Asheville
     

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#472 » by robillionaire » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:31 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
After he made the 4 point play he has two bad plays. But he got the ball to KAT and had another big bucket. He ain’t perfect but he knows how to win and has the guts and smarts to get there.


This is the first time I remember thibs taking him out for defense on the raptors last big possession. We ended up getting the stop but then he wasn’t in the game on offense so Towns ended up hitting the 3. But it was a good adjustment by Thibs


Did we have a timeout left? I really like bringing Deuce in for JB defensively but against a better defense it would be good to get JB back in


I think we did but just opted not to use it
User avatar
K_ick_God
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 80,879
And1: 43,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#473 » by K_ick_God » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:52 am

I feel like he took him out because he was hurt only though. Thibs doesn’t sub for defense.
User avatar
robillionaire
RealGM
Posts: 40,231
And1: 57,814
Joined: Jul 12, 2015
Location: Asheville
     

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#474 » by robillionaire » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:54 am

KnicksGod wrote:I feel like he took him out because he was hurt only though. Thibs doesn’t sub for defense.


He’s hurt? He was fine before that and assisted towns on the prior possession
User avatar
K_ick_God
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 80,879
And1: 43,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#475 » by K_ick_God » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:07 am

robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I feel like he took him out because he was hurt only though. Thibs doesn’t sub for defense.


He’s hurt? He was fine before that and assisted towns on the prior possession


Yeah he left with an ankle tweak and didn’t come back till the latter half of the 4th
User avatar
Chanel Bomber
RealGM
Posts: 23,902
And1: 42,015
Joined: Sep 20, 2018
 

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#476 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:22 am

Capn'O wrote:I'm probably in the minority but I think Gradey Duck would be an even funnier name than Gradey Dick.

Before responding, try saying Gradey Duck aloud. It's pretty funny.

I remember your thread on the GB and how only a few posters understood the assignment. The idea behind it was hilarious.
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 71,855
And1: 69,930
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#477 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:29 am

Capn'O wrote:I'm probably in the minority but I think Gradey Duck would be an even funnier name than Gradey Dick.

Before responding, try saying Gradey Duck aloud. It's pretty funny.


You deserve a Dad joke for that:

Why did the scarecrow win the Nobel Prize?

Spoiler:
Because he was out standing in his field
User avatar
Capn'O
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 90,771
And1: 110,977
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#478 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:36 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Capn'O wrote:I'm probably in the minority but I think Gradey Duck would be an even funnier name than Gradey Dick.

Before responding, try saying Gradey Duck aloud. It's pretty funny.

I remember your thread on the GB and how only a few posters understood the assignment. The idea behind it was hilarious.


Ruin Hachimura was an ATG response though
BAF Clippers:
UNDER CONSTRUCTION - PLEASE INQUIRE WITHIN

:beer:
User avatar
RHODEY
RealGM
Posts: 25,301
And1: 22,812
Joined: May 18, 2007
Location: Straight out of a comic book

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#479 » by RHODEY » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:46 am

User avatar
K_ick_God
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 80,879
And1: 43,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2003
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#480 » by K_ick_God » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:58 am

There’s no way you move Towns from 5

At most you use Precious or a new IHart to stop a run or limited minutes with Towns where appropriate

You are gonna have to eke out tough stops and Towns is not far from being a good enough defender

Return to New York Knicks