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Post#1781 » by AirP. » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:35 am

lastb1ckman wrote:
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lastb1ckman wrote:Also, I want no part in trading more picks for any mid level player. I don't care who, not for Finey smith, McCollum or nobody. It's just Rozier all over again.

It's probably a trade sending Rozier out. Add a little incentive and upgrade the Heat roster.


That's the same thing. We already used a pick to get him, now we use another to get rid of him?
I feel like that's one of the worst ways to use picks nowadays. Especially when players aren't end of career washed. It makes much more sense to figure out how to make them work the best you can on the team, then either use their salary in the trades you actually want or let their contracts run out.

I like Miami using a pick to get a good player but Rozier wasn't a good player.
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Post#1782 » by HeatingUp3 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:17 am

I'd look at Eason he have so much potential.
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Post#1783 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:57 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I really don’t like any trade with the Warriors. Also gonna be hard for us to trade match as we would have to eat Melton’s salary to match the contract. Also lacking roster and cap space to do much to help us with the tax. Kuminga contract next year is not something we want to deal with.


The Golden state trades are beyond disgusting.


Eating bad contracts for the privilege of overpaying the way overrated Kuminga. I rather lose Jimmy for nothing, those packages have negative value unless they come with multiple picks.
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Post#1784 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:12 am

HeatingUp3 wrote:I'd look at Eason he have so much potential.


Rockets really don't have any amazing prospects, they have a bunch of nice ones.

From best to worst :

Amen > Eason > Jabari > Reed

Reed is in danger of busting, the size thing is just a killer.
Jabari hasn't improved in 3 years, looks like a career backup big.
Amen is very solid already, and can become great if he can fix the jumpshot.
Eason is like a PF version of Amen, great athlete that needs to improve his feel and 3 point.
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Post#1785 » by Beenie » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:35 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:I'd look at Eason he have so much potential.


Rockets really don't have any amazing prospects, they have a bunch of nice ones.

From best to worst :

Amen > Eason > Jabari > Reed

Reed is in danger of busting, the size thing is just a killer.
Jabari hasn't improved in 3 years, looks like a career backup big.
Amen is very solid already, and can become great if he can fix the jumpshot.
Eason is like a PF version of Amen, great athlete that needs to improve his feel and 3 point.


Reed won me over in summer league

Not worried about his size. It’ll just take a little time to adjust to the nba

Fun fact he’s listed as 2” taller than Van Vleet
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Post#1786 » by HeatingUp3 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 12:23 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:I'd look at Eason he have so much potential.


Rockets really don't have any amazing prospects, they have a bunch of nice ones.

From best to worst :

Amen > Eason > Jabari > Reed

Reed is in danger of busting, the size thing is just a killer.
Jabari hasn't improved in 3 years, looks like a career backup big.
Amen is very solid already, and can become great if he can fix the jumpshot.
Eason is like a PF version of Amen, great athlete that needs to improve his feel and 3 point.


I dont think we get more then one of those but Amen and Eason are my top 2
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Post#1787 » by _GH0ST_ » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:01 pm

Rockets GM says he won't make any big trades this season.

Mavs have exactly 0 assets

Warriors is the most likely client but Kuminga's high salary demand could be a problem.

I think the Lakers are the most logical destination. Knecht is a solid rookie and 2029 Lakers FRP could be really valuable.
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Post#1788 » by BBallFreak » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:27 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:I'd look at Eason he have so much potential.


Rockets really don't have any amazing prospects, they have a bunch of nice ones.

From best to worst :

Amen > Eason > Jabari > Reed

Reed is in danger of busting, the size thing is just a killer.
Jabari hasn't improved in 3 years, looks like a career backup big.
Amen is very solid already, and can become great if he can fix the jumpshot.
Eason is like a PF version of Amen, great athlete that needs to improve his feel and 3 point.


I dont think we get more then one of those but Amen and Eason are my top 2

Jimmy's not drawing either of those. Not at 35 and not from a young team like the Rockets.
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Post#1789 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:35 pm

_GH0ST_ wrote:Rockets GM says he won't make any big trades this season.

Mavs have exactly 0 assets

Warriors is the most likely client but Kuminga's high salary demand could be a problem.

I think the Lakers are the most logical destination. Knecht is a solid rookie and 2029 Lakers FRP could be really valuable.


Morey said he wasn’t trading CP, next week he traded CP lol. We can’t trust what they say. We’ll see what happens
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Post#1790 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:35 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
HeatingUp3 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
Rockets really don't have any amazing prospects, they have a bunch of nice ones.

From best to worst :

Amen > Eason > Jabari > Reed

Reed is in danger of busting, the size thing is just a killer.
Jabari hasn't improved in 3 years, looks like a career backup big.
Amen is very solid already, and can become great if he can fix the jumpshot.
Eason is like a PF version of Amen, great athlete that needs to improve his feel and 3 point.


I dont think we get more then one of those but Amen and Eason are my top 2

Jimmy's not drawing either of those. Not at 35 and not from a young team like the Rockets.


That’s fine, unload the picks. They have 10 they’ll be fine sending us some if they want to win
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Post#1791 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:51 pm

One of the funniest things to me will always be just how fuxkin oblivious people are to how good Jimmy truly is. It’s gotta be because PPG or something but casual fans are just idiots. The PG is better than Jimmy stuff has always been funny and just flat out wrong but now I’m seeing Houston fans saying they won’t trade Dillon Brooks for Jimmy, DILLON BROOKS!! It baffles me how dumb some people are, this dude is legit a top 5 player in the world when it matters most and the Rockets who are .5 games back of the 2 seed could add him while giving up only 1 rotation player (Brooks) and some fans are against it :lol:

We saw it in the play in last season before Oubre injured him, he was about to turn tf up like he always does. He’ll do the same this year, hopefully he’s healthy.
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Post#1792 » by wadenation305 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:58 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:One of the funniest things to me will always be just how fuxkin oblivious people are to how good Jimmy truly is. It’s gotta be because PPG or something but casual fans are just idiots. The PG is better than Jimmy stuff has always been funny and just flat out wrong but now I’m seeing Houston fans saying they won’t trade Dillon Brooks for Jimmy, DILLON BROOKS!! It baffles me how dumb some people are, this dude is legit a top 5 player in the world when it matters most and the Rockets who are .5 games back of the 2 seed could add him while giving up only 1 rotation player (Brooks) and some fans are against it :lol:

We saw it in the play in last season before Oubre injured him, he was about to turn tf up like he always does. He’ll do the same this year, hopefully he’s healthy.



'Tis' This is why I do not listen to anyone on the forums speak about player value. One guy had the nickname "Playoff P," while the other has you questioning if he's MJ's illegitimate child. But somehow, "Playoff P" is the more valuable guy.
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Post#1793 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:11 pm

For a team running with Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes and a team from Texas at that. You would think they should silently be trying to get in on Butler. With young players and probably the most pics in the league why not go for someone like Butler to make a backdoor run at a chip with Wemby.
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Post#1794 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:26 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:For a team running with Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes and a team from Texas at that. You would think they should silently be trying to get in on Butler. With young players and probably the most pics in the league why not go for someone like Butler to make a backdoor run at a chip with Wemby.


Speaking of most picks in the league, I’ve been thinking this would be a good all in opportunity for the Thunder. When Chet comes back send us Hartenstein and Caruso, we’ll send you Jimmy and whatever backup C you want out of Ware Love and Bryant and you send us a nice package of picks. I see they own 16 1sts and 17 2nds. We take the picks and go snag Fox.
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Post#1795 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:35 pm

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Branham
2027 1st rd pick and 3 2nd rd picks

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SF Jimmy Butler
PF Nikola Jovic
C Thomas Bryant
SG Josh Richardson
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Post#1796 » by lastb1ckman » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:41 pm

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lastb1ckman wrote:
AirP. wrote:It's probably a trade sending Rozier out. Add a little incentive and upgrade the Heat roster.


That's the same thing. We already used a pick to get him, now we use another to get rid of him?
I feel like that's one of the worst ways to use picks nowadays. Especially when players aren't end of career washed. It makes much more sense to figure out how to make them work the best you can on the team, then either use their salary in the trades you actually want or let their contracts run out.

I like Miami using a pick to get a good player but Rozier wasn't a good player.


Any problems we have with Rozier now is in hindsight. At the time we were dealing with a checked out, washed Lowry that refused to even shoot. We desperately needed a PG and Herro wasn't looking like he is now. I'd still do that trade any day. Can you imagine what Heat fans would've been like if we had just let Lowry expire?
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Post#1797 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:56 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
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lastb1ckman wrote:
That's the same thing. We already used a pick to get him, now we use another to get rid of him?
I feel like that's one of the worst ways to use picks nowadays. Especially when players aren't end of career washed. It makes much more sense to figure out how to make them work the best you can on the team, then either use their salary in the trades you actually want or let their contracts run out.

I like Miami using a pick to get a good player but Rozier wasn't a good player.


Any problems we have with Rozier now is in hindsight. At the time we were dealing with a checked out, washed Lowry that refused to even shoot. We desperately needed a PG and Herro wasn't looking like he is now. I'd still do that trade any day. Can you imagine what Heat fans would've been like if we had just let Lowry expire?

Rozier was also coming off a real hot streak during that time. Scoring nearly 50 in a game. They also kicked the can on the tax bill another year saving 15 million the previous year. They tried their best to maximize the return on Lowry’s deal. Rozier was the best they could do at the time and he said all the right things about loving Wade and buying into Heat culture. Just hasn’t worked out. We need specific system players at our PG spot. He’s just not it
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Post#1798 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:07 pm

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We play them tomorrow.

Next 5:

Vs Raptors
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Vs Thunder
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Vs Nets

If we go 4-1 in that stretch that would be 11-4 for the last 15 with some big wins in there. Makes you wonder if they’d be willing to blow that up seeing that we have finally found a rhythm after the slow start. Maybe they finally go all in for us.

Side note, there’s a 3 day break between each of those 1st 3 games, this schedule has been wild this season
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Post#1799 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:12 pm

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