Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 (i.e. How do we make the Champs even better?)

Hal14 · Post #1821 » by **Hal14** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 8:52 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I think we should just trade KP and Brown for Giannis and Jackson Jr.

Celtics can't combine salaries.

Giannis and Jackson Jr dont play on the same team. So even though it is imaginary, I believe it is doable.

Brown to Bucks for Giannis
KP to Memphis for Jackson Jr

Both milwaukee and Memphis would hang up the phone on Brad..

playa-hater · Post #1822 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:05 pm

I do believe Jimmy Butler will be traded. Or at least in real trade talks. Houston and GS are my guesses. Fun times here in Miami.

Larry_Russell · Post #1823 » by **Larry_Russell** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:13 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics can't combine salaries.

Giannis and Jackson Jr dont play on the same team. So even though it is imaginary, I believe it is doable.

Brown to Bucks for Giannis
KP to Memphis for Jackson Jr

Both milwaukee and Memphis would laugh at Brad and then hang up the phone

what a waste of time for you to type that response.

You think I believe that they would make that trade? I said its imaginary, and the doable part was in relation to CBA rules.

Did you even read the prior posts or just decide to randomly quote on one to try and pump the post numbers?

ConstableGeneva · Post #1824 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:17 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics can't combine salaries.

Giannis and Jackson Jr dont play on the same team. So even though it is imaginary, I believe it is doable.

Brown to Bucks for Giannis
KP to Memphis for Jackson Jr

Both milwaukee and Memphis would laugh at Brad and then hang up the phone

Even if realistic, a third team is needed for Brown-Giannis trade since MIL is also over the 2nd apron. KP-JJJ swap is legal if done separately.

Larry_Russell · Post #1825 » by **Larry_Russell** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:25 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

Giannis and Jackson Jr dont play on the same team. So even though it is imaginary, I believe it is doable.

Brown to Bucks for Giannis
KP to Memphis for Jackson Jr

Both milwaukee and Memphis would laugh at Brad and then hang up the phone

Even if realistic, a third team is needed for Brown-Giannis trade since MIL is also over the 2nd apron. KP-JJJ swap is legal if done separately.

I dunno, the trade checkers out there all say the swap is legal. But there are so many moronic nuances related to the aprons.

ConstableGeneva · Post #1826 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:28 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Both milwaukee and Memphis would laugh at Brad and then hang up the phone

Even if realistic, a third team is needed for Brown-Giannis trade since MIL is also over the 2nd apron. KP-JJJ swap is legal if done separately.

I dunno, the trade checkers out there all say the swap is legal. But there are so many moronic nuances related to the aprons.

It's not legal. JB makes more than Giannis. Both teams are 2nd apron teams. Has to be 1:1. Even if the 250K buffer applies, JB still makes more. But people can believe whatever. Just telling you what I know.

From spotrac's trade machine, which I believe Smitty helped design/build...

Larry_Russell · Post #1827 » by **Larry_Russell** » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:25 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Even if realistic, a third team is needed for Brown-Giannis trade since MIL is also over the 2nd apron. KP-JJJ swap is legal if done separately.

I dunno, the trade checkers out there all say the swap is legal. But there are so many moronic nuances related to the aprons.

It's not legal. JB makes more than Giannis. Both teams are 2nd apron teams. Has to be 1:1. Even if the 250K buffer applies, JB still makes more. But people can believe whatever. Just telling you what I know.

From spotrac's trade machine, which I believe Smitty helped design/build...

I didnt look into it, didnt care, but prefaced it by stating i thought it was doable. It not going to ever happen anyway, team is not trading Brown.

Fierce1 · Post #1828 » by **Fierce1** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:49 pm

Paul Pierce talking about Jimmy Butler ending up in Denver.

If that happens, Denver would be back in the hunt.

phincsfan · Post #1829 » by **phincsfan** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:59 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Paul Pierce talking about Jimmy Butler ending up in Denver.

If that happens, Denver would be back in the hunt.

I only know the 2nd apron rules because the C's are in it. I'm pretty sure Denver and Miami are in that 1st apron area. I don't know those rules.

Celts17Pride · Post #1830 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:54 pm

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

keevsnick1 · Post #1831 » by **keevsnick1** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:06 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

If he's bought out this year he's not an option, the Celtics can't sign buyout guys who were making more than the mid level due to being in the second apron. Really the only way he ends up on Boston is a minimum next summer, which I guess is possible. But I assume he'd rather go somewhere he has a better chance of getting real minutes. But maybe his stock is just that low.

Celts17Pride · Post #1832 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:11 pm

keevsnick1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

If he's bought out this year he's not an option, the Celtics can't sign buyout guys who were making more than the mid level due to being in the second apron. Really the only way he ends up on Boston is a minimum next summer, which I guess is possible. But I assume he'd rather go somewhere he has a better chance of getting real minutes. But maybe his stock is just that low.

There is no way it can happen unless the Celtics trade Jaylen Brown for Simmons+

Don't see how that improves the Celtics championship aspirations.

Does that mean you are not placing a bet? :lol:

keevsnick1 · Post #1833 » by **keevsnick1** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:22 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
keevsnick1 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

If he's bought out this year he's not an option, the Celtics can't sign buyout guys who were making more than the mid level due to being in the second apron. Really the only way he ends up on Boston is a minimum next summer, which I guess is possible. But I assume he'd rather go somewhere he has a better chance of getting real minutes. But maybe his stock is just that low.

There is no way it can happen unless the Celtics trade Jaylen Brown for Simmons+

Don't see how that improves the Celtics championship aspirations.

Does that mean you are not placing a bet?

Ya this is an absolutely baffling set of odds, and a good example of why not EVERYTHING needs odds attached.

playa-hater · Post #1834 » by **playa-hater** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:53 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

Ok I am bored. To play along, why would Ben Simmons sign with us. Definitely coming off the bench for us. Might get a chance to start elsewhere.

2nd question, If he were to sign with us, who would we play him and over who in a year or 2??

EDIT - at Vet Minimum I would love Ben ..

Celts17Pride · Post #1835 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:57 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

Ok I am bored. To play along, why would Ben Simmons sign with us. Definitely coming off the bench for us. Might get a chance to start elsewhere.

2nd question, If he were to sign with us, who would we play him and over who in a year or 2??

Celtics can't sign Simmons until next year. Can't sign him if he is a buyout this year.

ThePigeon · Post #1836 » by **ThePigeon** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:13 pm

Simmons can't shoot the 3
Brad and Joe would not look more than a split second and pass

redslastlaugh · Post #1837 » by **redslastlaugh** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:16 pm

Literally hapless degenerate gamblers betting on Ben Simmons joining Celts when 2nd apron rules 100% prevent it.

lol

Truly sports gambling run amok at this point…

Celts17Pride wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hmmm!

Ok I am bored. To play along, why would Ben Simmons sign with us. Definitely coming off the bench for us. Might get a chance to start elsewhere.

2nd question, If he were to sign with us, who would we play him and over who in a year or 2??

Celtics can't sign Simmons until next year. Can't sign him if he is a buyout this year.

31to6 · Post #1838 » by **31to6** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:42 pm

wouldn't take Ben Simmons for free, and I've always appreciated the things that he can/does do on the court

MrGreenRunsDeep · Post #1839 » by **MrGreenRunsDeep** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:47 pm

Nets can take this Bum Kornet!

playa-hater · Post #1840 » by **playa-hater** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:06 pm

I'm going to talk this trade proposal into reality..

J.
Brown to houston, they want a bonafid scorer.. Assets galore plus fillers to Utah.. Lauri Makk to Boston..

Boston gets a much better fit.D White Tatum and kp all excel with more opportunities

LM can legit play with KP and/or be a great replacement down the road.

Houston gets someone who believes in Brown and allows him to. E a true number 1 option,, uthah gets assets to keep danny happy.. win win win..