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Post#201 » by Romulus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:47 am

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Jax_23 wrote:1. BP gives up a 3 to Van Fleet
2. Draymond unforced error to JK
3. Curry shoots early for no reason
4. GP2 throws ball away
5. JK Foul
6. BP hits side of the backboard. Nice

Choke job by the entire team.

This team desperately needs a 2nd option / all star

disagree, anything Curry puts up is a good shot comparing to all other options. This is the worst offensive team in the league by far!

Yep; it was a great shot, just missed it. AND GP2 got the rebound. Why he didn't call time out or just hold the ball and take a foul I have no idea.
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Post#202 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:54 am

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GQ Hot Dog wrote:Why didn't Kerr challenge that?

No way they can call that a foul upon review.


I actually agree with what Kerr just said. There's no chance Bill Kennedy was about to reverse that call. 0%. If he's bad enough to make the call he's not going to go back on it seconds later. And they just showed that Van Fleet did the exact same thing to GP2.

It was a terrible call. 99% of the time it’s a jump ball.


Jk didn't even fight for the ball, no chance of a jump ball. (I just rewatched it to be sure). It wasn't close to a tie up situation. Maybe loon, but I think it was too late. Green just wanted it more.

Normally, I'd bet this would be a no call and rockets possession.
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Post#203 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:57 am

If anything Curry puts up is a good shot, then wait 6 seconds

The point isn’t the offense, it’s that if the shot goes up with 4-5 seconds, the Rockets have to secure a long rebound (if it’s missed) and call timeout. It puts all the pressure on them. Steph made the bad call here.. everything stemmed from that shot going up early
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Post#204 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:59 am

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Post#205 » by jaymo123 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:59 am

CDM_Stats wrote:If anything Curry puts up is a good shot, then wait 6 seconds

The point isn’t the offense, it’s that if the shot goes up with 4-5 seconds, the Rockets have to secure a long rebound (if it’s missed) and call timeout. It puts all the pressure on them. Steph made the bad call here.. everything stemmed from that shot going up early


I understand what your saying but it was as open as he had possibly gotten all night.
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Post#206 » by floppymoose » Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:59 am

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floppymoose wrote:Blaming Jk for that foul is a bit rough. The entire game taught him that wasnt going to be called.

Blaming jk for not diving on a loose ball first totally legitimate.


Jk shooting 2/6 on fts created this situation.


He led the team in points and rebounds as well. That bastard.
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Post#207 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:01 am

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I actually agree with what Kerr just said. There's no chance Bill Kennedy was about to reverse that call. 0%. If he's bad enough to make the call he's not going to go back on it seconds later. And they just showed that Van Fleet did the exact same thing to GP2.

It was a terrible call. 99% of the time it’s a jump ball.


Jk didn't even fight for the ball, no chance of a jump ball. (I just rewatched it to be sure). It wasn't close to a tie up situation. Maybe loon, but I think it was too late. Green just wanted it more.

Normally, I'd bet this would be a no call and rockets possession.

Can’t win with a guy that can’t be bothered to give effort.
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Post#208 » by Coxy » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:04 am

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Oh wow, Kerr was screaming timeout. Huge miss on a few things here from the refs. Pretty chaotic, so difficult with the noise and home crowd stuff, but still. Kerr should have challenged the time out call over the foul on JK.

Anyways, we deserved to lose.
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Post#209 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:04 am

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CDM_Stats wrote:If anything Curry puts up is a good shot, then wait 6 seconds

The point isn’t the offense, it’s that if the shot goes up with 4-5 seconds, the Rockets have to secure a long rebound (if it’s missed) and call timeout. It puts all the pressure on them. Steph made the bad call here.. everything stemmed from that shot going up early


I understand what your saying but it was as open as he had possibly gotten all night.


Play to win the game, not make a highlight. Even if it’s Steph.. the game was 90-89. Make them make the big shot with almost no time left.. that’s the goal. Whether it’s Steph or Gui Santos, use all the time
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Post#210 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:06 am

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jaymo123 wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:If anything Curry puts up is a good shot, then wait 6 seconds

The point isn’t the offense, it’s that if the shot goes up with 4-5 seconds, the Rockets have to secure a long rebound (if it’s missed) and call timeout. It puts all the pressure on them. Steph made the bad call here.. everything stemmed from that shot going up early


I understand what your saying but it was as open as he had possibly gotten all night.


Play to win the game, not make a highlight. Even if it’s Steph.. the game was 90-89. Make them make the big shot with almost no time left.. that’s the goal. Whether it’s Steph or Gui Santos, use all the time

If we’re going this route looney came up to set the pick too soon which caused curry to make a move earlier.
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Post#211 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:09 am

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I understand what your saying but it was as open as he had possibly gotten all night.


Play to win the game, not make a highlight. Even if it’s Steph.. the game was 90-89. Make them make the big shot with almost no time left.. that’s the goal. Whether it’s Steph or Gui Santos, use all the time

If we’re going this route looney came up to set the pick too soon which caused curry to make a move earlier.


Curry has to shoot off a Looney screen? You realize if he comes up at the end the Rockets just throw 2 bodies at Steph.. of course he came up with time left
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Post#212 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:12 am

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Play to win the game, not make a highlight. Even if it’s Steph.. the game was 90-89. Make them make the big shot with almost no time left.. that’s the goal. Whether it’s Steph or Gui Santos, use all the time

If we’re going this route looney came up to set the pick too soon which caused curry to make a move earlier.


Curry has to shoot off a Looney screen? You realize if he comes up at the end the Rockets just throw 2 bodies at Steph.. of course he came up with time left

So don’t come up at all. Looney initiated the action which forced curry to start his move.
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Post#213 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:13 am

SpreeS wrote:Everybody here talks about 2nd option, but what about 1st? So far one of the worst from PO teams.

Yea Sengun is a better 1st option amiright
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Post#214 » by powerball1373 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:14 am

SpreeS wrote:Everybody here talks about 2nd option, but what about 1st? So far one of the worst from PO teams.


Sir, I don't think you're going to improve on Steph as the 1st option lol.
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Post#215 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:17 am

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:If we’re going this route looney came up to set the pick too soon which caused curry to make a move earlier.


Curry has to shoot off a Looney screen? You realize if he comes up at the end the Rockets just throw 2 bodies at Steph.. of course he came up with time left

So don’t come up at all. Looney initiated the action which forced curry to start his move.


… Looney setting a screen doesn’t force Steph to take a shot. Shouldn’t have to be said, trying to put it on Looney is way too creative a way to shield Steph from criticism
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Post#216 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:19 am

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SpreeS wrote:Everybody here talks about 2nd option, but what about 1st? So far one of the worst from PO teams.


Sir, I don't think you're going to improve on Steph as the 1st option lol.


Steph's got 23ppg in 30mpg w/ .625 TS% and he's one of the worst of playoff teams? I'd like to see that list
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Post#217 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:24 am

CDM_Stats wrote:
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Curry has to shoot off a Looney screen? You realize if he comes up at the end the Rockets just throw 2 bodies at Steph.. of course he came up with time left

So don’t come up at all. Looney initiated the action which forced curry to start his move.


… Looney setting a screen doesn’t force Steph to take a shot. Shouldn’t have to be said, trying to put it on Looney is way too creative a way to shield Steph from criticism

It forces Steph to move.

Trying to blame this on Steph is way too creative way to shield the refs/kerr/gp2/dray/looney from criticism.

Steph actually got a really good shot. He just missed it. And if he doesn’t take it early we might not even get a chance to shoot again if the scrum happens and the refs still decide to call a foul.
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Post#218 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:30 am

1st blame should go to Kerr. His 1st half rotations were terrible. His starting lineup was also terrible. He also wasn’t valuing possessions and let jk end quarters. We tried to feature jk more than ever but couldn’t get brooks off of him. jk wasn’t terrible for him but his effort to get the loose ball was.

Dray was terrible.

Gp2 was terrible.

The refs were terrible.
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Post#219 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:30 am

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:So don’t come up at all. Looney initiated the action which forced curry to start his move.


… Looney setting a screen doesn’t force Steph to take a shot. Shouldn’t have to be said, trying to put it on Looney is way too creative a way to shield Steph from criticism

It forces Steph to move.

Trying to blame this on Steph is way too creative way to shield the refs/kerr/gp2/dray/looney from criticism.

Steph actually got a really good shot. He just missed it. And if he doesn’t take it early we might not even get a chance to shoot again if the scrum happens and the refs still decide to call a foul.


:lol: are you serious? Quit always justifying a bad position youve taken

If he shoots it at 4 seconds, it takes a second to get to the rim. It takes a second to land, and that's if its clean. If its not, its game over. Sure, anyone could be blamed for a 1 pt loss. But if you think Steph took a good shot with that much time left, in a defensive game, its ridiculous. He makes dumb plays too, and this was a dumb play.
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Post#220 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:33 am

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If Kerr had a challenge remaining, mind boggling as to why he didn't use it.


If they lost the challenge, which was probably going to happen, they'd have no TO to advance the ball to halfcourt after the FTs

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