Trades

[danfantastk32]

There’s no way the Lakers trade LeBron, unless he demands a trade, and even if he does, they’ll do everything they can to convince him to stay first, including waiting until the offseason…
They’re basically integrated with LeBrons “team” at this point and I don’t think they have any idea how to run the team without him…
So this is all a lot of thought-energy wasted….
In theory, the longer you wait to trade a player of his age the less you get for him…. As soon as anyone finds out you are even willing to discuss it, the offer tanks. So basically take whatever you think is ‘fair’ and cut it at least in half…. Forget multiple decent picks…. It’d be mediocre young players (basically all there is in the league now) and unremarkable picks…
I still say do it…

No, I understand it's never going to happen. But it's time this FO took off the diapers.

[JKiddy]

LeBron to OKC for 6 first and Chet with any other contracts? Would OKC be okay with that? It would be a 2 year run with LeBron before he calls it quits. Thoughts?

[Landsberger]

There’s no way the Lakers trade LeBron, unless he demands a trade, and even if he does, they’ll do everything they can to convince him to stay first, including waiting until the offseason…
They’re basically integrated with LeBrons “team” at this point and I don’t think they have any idea how to run the team without him…
So this is all a lot of thought-energy wasted….
In theory, the longer you wait to trade a player of his age the less you get for him…. As soon as anyone finds out you are even willing to discuss it, the offer tanks. So basically take whatever you think is ‘fair’ and cut it at least in half…. Forget multiple decent picks…. It’d be mediocre young players (basically all there is in the league now) and unremarkable picks…
I still say do it…

They can't improve the Bron/Davis duo any further.. they are both ticking time bombs health wise. My guess is we've seen the best Davis he'll ever be. This idea that we're "one off season away" is going to put us 10 offseasons away.

[SlimShady83]

LeBron to OKC for 6 first and Chet with any other contracts? Would OKC be okay with that? It would be a 2 year run with LeBron before he calls it quits. Thoughts?

Is what OKC would do...

Just hope you not trolling here

[danfantastk32]

LeBron to OKC for 6 first and Chet with any other contracts? Would OKC be okay with that? It would be a 2 year run with LeBron before he calls it quits. Thoughts?

A) Don't think your getting 6 firsts for anyone. I'm not sure you even can trade 6 firsts.

B) I think OKC would be much more interested in AD.

[danfantastk32]

There’s no way the Lakers trade LeBron, unless he demands a trade, and even if he does, they’ll do everything they can to convince him to stay first, including waiting until the offseason…
They’re basically integrated with LeBrons “team” at this point and I don’t think they have any idea how to run the team without him…
So this is all a lot of thought-energy wasted….
In theory, the longer you wait to trade a player of his age the less you get for him…. As soon as anyone finds out you are even willing to discuss it, the offer tanks. So basically take whatever you think is ‘fair’ and cut it at least in half…. Forget multiple decent picks…. It’d be mediocre young players (basically all there is in the league now) and unremarkable picks…
I still say do it…

They can't improve the Bron/Davis duo any further.. they are both ticking time bombs health wise. My guess is we've seen the best Davis he'll ever be. This idea that we're "one off season away" is going to put us 10 offseasons away.

Indeed. 4 years ago, we still had a shot. But we traded for Brick, and it was all over by the time he left. Between the talent we lost, and never got back....and the aging of Lebron, the book was written.

The worst part is sitting here, knowing that in 2 years Lebron will be gone, and the age/injuries will be catching up to AD. And there we will be......with Jack-sh** -all to trade, and an inevitable rebuild in front of us. Now I'm sure the FO will live in denial, and will continue to try and bring someone into the team to "pair" with AD. Of course, nobody will want to come....much like nobody wanted to join forces with Kobe when he was clearly done. And so there we are....just sorta hobbling along with AD for a couple years, until he calls it (or it gets so bad that the FO is forced to call it). And so then we FINALLY start the rebuild in earnest. 4-5 years have passed, with nothing to show for it. But now the rebuild has been forced on us. Sadly we'll have no extra picks. One can only hope we still have our own picks.

And all this because nobody wants to confront a rebuild because they fear it'll be another long, drawn out nightmare like last time. Only thing is....what we're currently doing, is what's gonna make our next rebuild be drawn out! It's that whole "history repeats itself" line. Why so few people can see this, I don't know.

Sad as F!! Didn't need to be this way. We had a window. We could have avoided a stupid long rebuild....and the 8 years of .500 basketball leading up to it.

Shameful

[JKiddy]

I think LAL needs to either GO ALL IN NOW to give Lebron one more shot at a title or just trade AD and Lebron by the deadline. If not, they won't hold nearly the value anyone would assume and the Lakers would be in a 8 year rebuild instead of a 3 year rebuild.

Which do you prefer?

[stan francisco]

Jeannie sells jerseys, that makes her think she’s doing right by her dad. It’s a fear based approach. That’s where she seems to differ from alpha winners like her dad Kobe. That could be why she feels comfortable with Klutch. It’s her safety net, like the Rambii have been.

Time to delegate fully to Rob.

On the current roster front, I like our team.

Five rotation players injured. Let’s not rebuild until we’ve seen what this team can do as constructed. Vando, Reaves, Wood, Hayes… They do make a difference.

[SlimShady83]

Just starting work, lakernation posted a video about Bron. He has said he doesn't want to leave and wants upgrade from team. There you have it. Trades will happen and using pics no doubt, should be interesting come Dec15th. So the whole trade Bron/AD talk rebuild talk should stop here, it's not happening. At least until Bron is gone.

Peace out.

[loveshaq007]

I think LAL needs to either GO ALL IN NOW to give Lebron one more shot at a title or just trade AD and Lebron by the deadline. If not, they won't hold nearly the value anyone would assume and the Lakers would be in a 8 year rebuild instead of a 3 year rebuild.

Which do you prefer?

Go all in without LeBron:


trade lebron, bronny, Maxwell, hood, wood for Melton, Draymond, Kyle, looney and GP

trade reaves, Gabe, vando, Melton and a pick for butler

[loveshaq007]

I think LAL needs to either GO ALL IN NOW to give Lebron one more shot at a title or just trade AD and Lebron by the deadline. If not, they won't hold nearly the value anyone would assume and the Lakers would be in a 8 year rebuild instead of a 3 year rebuild.

Which do you prefer?

Go all in without LeBron:


trade lebron, bronny, Maxwell, hood, wood for Melton, Draymond, Kyle, looney and GP

trade reaves, Gabe, vando, Melton and a pick for butler

[danfantastk32]

Just starting work, lakernation posted a video about Bron. He has said he doesn't want to leave and wants upgrade from team. There you have it. Trades will happen and using pics no doubt, should be interesting come Dec15th. So the whole trade Bron/AD talk rebuild talk should stop here, it's not happening. At least until Bron is gone.

Peace out.

Firstly, the video I watched had Windhorst say he's "Had no indication that Lebron wants out" .....and then it was followed up by some Windhorst quote, which again....is not Lebron saying it.

Secondly, everytime an owner says they "have complete confidence in -insert coach name here- ".....that means they'll be fired within the week. Hopefully the same concept here.

Thirdly, Lebron is just the gravy in this whole thing. If we can get some picks for him, great. The real move is AD. So move AD, and get the picks...and Lebron can stay or go.

Forthly, sorry man.....until someone has a REALISTIC plan that's better than a rebuild, I won't stop saying the Lakers should rebuild. I'm a Laker fan, and that means I don't want to see a continuation of .500 basketball. Lebron and AD are done. To say anything else is foolish. Just ask Lakernation....from their article today:

This leaves the Lakers with a big decision as to what they do at this season’s trade deadline if they continue to be a middle-of-the-pack team. Typically, a full-scale rebuild would be on the table, as a team with two aging superstars and very little chance at winning a championship, hitting the reset button could be the best choice for the franchise long-term.

Ouch.....TWO AGING SUPERSTARS!! "VERY little chance..." <------an article on Lakernation! Not some schmuck down in Dallas or something. This is coming from your own camp! Wake up fans!! IT'S O-V-E-R

Fifthly (if that's a real word): The Lakers could have used picks and had the flexibility of Lebron willing to take a pay cut to get players. Remember when Klay took less than what we offered to goto Dallas?? NOW we're gonna make a move?



Yeah, the Lakers can move DLo and Rui and a couple picks to get Lavine....but that will completely f***k the franchise for a decade. I'm against that, as a Laker fan....as all level headed Laker fans should be. So I'll speak out against it.

Move AD, and get those picks. Let Lebron do whatever he wants. Would be nice if we could move him...but if he wants to stay, then so be it. We'll rebuild around him.

[danfantastk32]

I'm hopeful that this is all media posturing by Lebron. He doesn't want to look like the guy who bailed. But the fact that this is all being "churned around" in the basketball media, leaves me hopeful that there's something here.

[SlimShady83]

Yep so that realistic has to be Bron/Ad, they not getting traded . Just don't get your hopes up

[danfantastk32]

Yep so that realistic has to be Bron/Ad, they not getting traded . Just don't get your hopes up

They aren't.

Our ownership is stupid, and short-sighted, and far too reliant on the revenue. There's nobody even remotely visionary there. And not only not visionary....but I'd say there's nobody brave. I'd love to see the team sold, personally.

But it doesn't change the fact that what this team needs is to rebuild.

[JKiddy]

If you are not competing for a title this or next year, why not just blow it up and get some value for Lebron and AD while you can? Their values will plummet after this season. Who wants just 1 year of Lebron? You get ticket sales and likely no title unless you have an outstanding cast and another star around him.

[SlimShady83]

I can't even trade for Kessler In one of my fantasy teams lols ... I guess the other person knows I need Blk/Reb and I'm In 2nd place that's all I need atm - let's see If I can get a deal done lols.

[danfantastk32]

I can't even trade for Kessler In one of my fantasy teams lols ... I guess the other person knows I need Blk/Reb and I'm In 2nd place that's all I need atm - let's see If I can get a deal done lols.

They wouldn't let me rebuild in my fantasy league team, so I quit.

[danfantastk32]

If you are not competing for a title this or next year, why not just blow it up and get some value for Lebron and AD while you can? Their values will plummet after this season. Who wants just 1 year of Lebron? You get ticket sales and likely no title unless you have an outstanding cast and another star around him.

Agree. The fork in the road is HERE. Do we move them while we will still get value, or not. Because the door is closing, and it will be too late. I think we've already lost value from both of them. I personally don't see a title from this group....so I'm on the side that says move them now.

[JKiddy]

I am getting an insane amount of chatter of why Lebron is taking this time away from the team.

I think it is the normal he is demanding they use the picks to upgrade the roster or he wants to be traded.

But, some people are informing me it might have to do with some legal issues.

What are you guys hearing in LA?