PG: Knicks vs ATL

[ScienceOfLosing]

BITCH!!!

Probably blackmailed at something similar to a Diddy or Epstein way.
Really, too much money involved to think refs are not (at times) compromised, blackmailed, leveraged or the like.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I can't even be mad at Tae.

yeah that tweet is bs.. where was randle in the 2021 playoffs when trae was styling on us…

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We lost that game, Randle shot 8-21 and that was his best game of the playoffs.

[KnixinSix]

BITCH!!!

Probably blackmailed at something similar to a Diddy or Epstein way.
Really, too much money involved to think refs are not (at times) compromised, blackmailed, leveraged or the like.

Entirely possible

[3toheadmelo]

Are we really out here letting Melo get away with saying Randle would have saved us... against the Hawks... in a playoff like atmosphere???

Why are we acting like Randle hasn’t played well against the hawks since the playoffs?

I was at this game where he destroyed them on X-mas

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[ScienceOfLosing]

I had to leave early in the 3rd quarter to attend to an urgent personal matter. It was unfortunate to see us lose the game when I got back. KAT played very solid defense in the first half, am disappointed to see he is being blamed for the collapse in the second half.

Regardless, I feel that our resistance at the point of attack is too weak. I have seen good defensive stats for Mikal but the eye test says otherwise as I see him constantly being beat by his man or easily erased by a screen. Looking at Mikal’s DPOY runner-up highlights back when he was with the Suns, his value came from being an excellent help defender with him also being able to provide rim protection whenever the opposing guard beats Ayton off the dribble.

OG might be a better POA defender but we would tire him out and could lead to costly injuries if done extensively. Deuce is the ideal one to put here at the POA, with OG and Mikal being the terrors on the wings. Just need to figure out the rotations on which of KAT, JB, Josh or others would play most with those three guys.

Interesting points worth trying and most coaches would for stretches.
But Thibs is gonna make the the square fit in that damn circle.
Wish he would try new lineups and play Pacom some minutes.

Also, we need (try) to play a 5 next to towns. Thibs would be game. Offense will not be there every night. Losing Hart really hurt. If we can get Kessler…

It doesn’t matter about the bigs that we have. Science has a good point, and one I have been harping on for so so long. Mikal cannot play the point of attack, he’s a better defender on the wings. It has to be deuce at that spot. The simple change would be deuce at the POA. But that leaves us a small lineup. That’s why i say take Mikal out as well and replace with precious to add size. Now we have precious who can defend at a high level, and is a great rebounder, with KAT, deuce Brunson and OG

I think Thibs played Deuce like you said at the end of the game a week or two ago where he pulled Mikal.
But that was pre Precious return.

Frustrating that Thibs never tries new starting lineups when its clear we have an issue. I get Mikal is adjusting but still.
I think the FO don’t want to look bad by sending 5 first round picks to the bench and starting a second rounder.

[3toheadmelo]

yeah that tweet is bs.. where was randle in the 2021 playoffs when trae was styling on us…

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We lost that game, Randle shot 8-21 and that was his best game of the playoffs.

Missing the point here. He let trae know it ain’t sweet over here, like this soft ass team we have here now. We let Trae acted like he owned MSG last night when he played terrible and nobody did a thing to confront him at any point in the game.

[KnixinSix]

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Knicksmuse quote NOT a good one.

We werent just off from 3. Hawks had our offensive rotations on lock down and almost gave us nothing from 3 in the 2nd half. Almost all were tightly contested.

This wasnt a case of getting continuous open looks and bricking them at all.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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We lost that game, Randle shot 8-21 and that was his best game of the playoffs.

Missing the point here. He let trae know it ain’t sweet over here, like this soft ass team we have here now. We let Trae acted like he owned MSG last night when he played terrible and nobody did a thing to confront him at any point in the game.

He dropped a ball on him and walked off, he came out the next half and went 3-10. What Nerlens and Solomon did were tough, what Randle did is what losers do when things don't go their way.

[sol537]

BITCH!!!

Probably blackmailed at something similar to a Diddy or Epstein way.
Really, too much money involved to think refs are not (at times) compromised, blackmailed, leveraged or the like.

Entirely possible

It's possible that someone at the league influenced her and other refs to be extra strict with Dolan's Knicks given all of Dolan's beef with the league... maybe sending Dolan a message or an ego play. Who knows.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

but it’s Mikal.

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[DOT]

Are we really out here letting Melo get away with saying Randle would have saved us... against the Hawks... in a playoff like atmosphere???

I mean, he keeps admitting he's just trolling, so yeah.

[Buttah304]

Why are we talking about Randle? Yes, there are plenty of games and opponents he was excellent for but we should never use him as a bright spot vs ATL.

In the 5 game playoff series he was 28/94 (28% FG), 11-34 3PT (32%), had a 42% TS, was a -42 and compiled 20 assists to 23 turnovers.

This is like an episode of the twilight zone

[Capn'O]

Are we really out here letting Melo get away with saying Randle would have saved us... against the Hawks... in a playoff like atmosphere???

I mean, he keeps admitting he's just trolling, so yeah.

I have two young kids and I don't know if I've seen as big a tantrum as the reaction to that trade. It's embarrassing.

[HEZI]

They had a 108 ORTG last night which is 4 below their average, the first time we played them they had a 124 ORTG. So yeah, I'd rather give up 2s over 3s.

We could have won last nights game if our coach actually targeted Trae, but that's not his fault.

First time we played them we made like the 2nd most 3s in franchise history at 22. Made 7 more than they did and still lost. They would have had the same ORTG if they weren’t bricking so many open layups especially in the first half. We had a 100 ORTG last night, apparently that's not Tom's fault either.

Do you want us shooting more 3s or 2s because now you are contradicting yourself with what you value when we play offense vs when the opponent plays offense. You wanted us to attack Trae more and drive and look for 2s? We shot 26% from 3 so obviously that wasn’t working and you can always just shoot over Trae like players shoot over Brunson neither will contest anything. Besides, who is attacking Trae? Mikal? You didn’t he didn’t have opportunities to do so? Had plenty but it’s Mikal.

"If"

They had a higher ORTG in game one because they were making threes, just like the Raptors had a high ORTG in the first half because they made 9, and their ORTG plummeted in the 2nd half when they made 4. You can live with a team making 2s, you cannot live with teams making threes on volume.


I wanted us to attack Trae to get them in rotation which is what every team does against them, except our coach. We didn't do it in the playoffs series either, but that also wasn't Tom's fault. I wanted them in rotation so we could get better looks, and yes we could use Mikal more on ball, but he is just Mikal and it's not Thibs fault he's used mostly as a movement shooter with even less on ball opportunities now than he had with the Nets. His plays as the PnR ball handler are half of what they were with the Nets

Nothing is Tom's fault, I get it.

Oh we are living alright. We made 7 more 3s than the Hawks in the first matchup and made more 3s last night but we lost both games. We sure are living

Oh ok so we need to now turn Mikal into a 1st option because he was so on the Nets. We got Brunson and KAT but our first option should be Mikal Bridges. I guess we can live with that too.

[3toheadmelo]

We lost that game, Randle shot 8-21 and that was his best game of the playoffs.

Missing the point here. He let trae know it ain’t sweet over here, like this soft ass team we have here now. We let Trae acted like he owned MSG last night when he played terrible and nobody did a thing to confront him at any point in the game.

He dropped a ball on him and walked off, he came out the next half and went 3-10. What Nerlens and Solomon did were tough, what Randle did is what losers do when things don't go their way.

Nah, he wasn’t dodging smoke from anyone like this team does.

[HerSports85]

Why are we talking about Randle? Yes, there are plenty of games and opponents he was excellent for but we should never use him as a bright spot vs ATL.

In the 5 game playoff series he was 28/94 (28% FG), 11-34 3PT (32%), had a 42% TS, was a -42 and compiled 20 assists to 23 turnovers.

This is like an episode of the twilight zone

How are we comparing anything when it's not even the same ATL team is beyond me.

[3toheadmelo]

Are we really out here letting Melo get away with saying Randle would have saved us... against the Hawks... in a playoff like atmosphere???

I mean, he keeps admitting he's just trolling, so yeah.

Pot meet kettle

[3toheadmelo]

Are we really out here letting Melo get away with saying Randle would have saved us... against the Hawks... in a playoff like atmosphere???

I mean, he keeps admitting he's just trolling, so yeah.

I have two young kids and I don't know if I've seen as big a tantrum as the reaction to that trade. It's embarrassing.

Hey maybe if we were on Boston’s level like you guys said we were we wouldn’t be here. I’m embarrassed for you guys tbh. Now yall just wanna put all the blame on Thibs cause yall were wrong about this team. Yikes

[NoDopeOnSundays]

First time we played them we made like the 2nd most 3s in franchise history at 22. Made 7 more than they did and still lost. They would have had the same ORTG if they weren’t bricking so many open layups especially in the first half. We had a 100 ORTG last night, apparently that's not Tom's fault either.

Do you want us shooting more 3s or 2s because now you are contradicting yourself with what you value when we play offense vs when the opponent plays offense. You wanted us to attack Trae more and drive and look for 2s? We shot 26% from 3 so obviously that wasn’t working and you can always just shoot over Trae like players shoot over Brunson neither will contest anything. Besides, who is attacking Trae? Mikal? You didn’t he didn’t have opportunities to do so? Had plenty but it’s Mikal.

"If"

They had a higher ORTG in game one because they were making threes, just like the Raptors had a high ORTG in the first half because they made 9, and their ORTG plummeted in the 2nd half when they made 4. You can live with a team making 2s, you cannot live with teams making threes on volume.


I wanted us to attack Trae to get them in rotation which is what every team does against them, except our coach. We didn't do it in the playoffs series either, but that also wasn't Tom's fault. I wanted them in rotation so we could get better looks, and yes we could use Mikal more on ball, but he is just Mikal and it's not Thibs fault he's used mostly as a movement shooter with even less on ball opportunities now than he had with the Nets. His plays as the PnR ball handler are half of what they were with the Nets

Nothing is Tom's fault, I get it.

Oh we are living alright. We made 7 more 3s than the Hawks in the first matchup and made more 3s last night but we lost both games. We sure are living

Oh ok so we need to now turn Mikal into a 1st option because he was so on the Nets. We got Brunson and KAT but our first option should be Mikal Bridges. I guess we can live with that too.

So the other team beat us with two different styles? That's of course not the coaches fault. Nothing can ever be his fault, not the offense grinding to a hault, we tried nothing else and since nothing else worked let's keep doing the thing that wasn't working. We've had different versions of the team and the one constant is we dont go at Trae, but that's everybody else's fault.


No, he doesn't need to be a first option but he needs to be a more viable on ball threat, like he was with the Nets when he ran PnR 2x as much as he does now. How are the Nets without a stretch big and with less shooters able to put him on the ball, this year he's at .94 ppp as a ball handler which would mean to increase his work load with that play, Devin Booker is at .98 and Tyler Herro is at .97 ppp. Nah, just go stand in the corner and cut, not Tom's fault.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Missing the point here. He let trae know it ain’t sweet over here, like this soft ass team we have here now. We let Trae acted like he owned MSG last night when he played terrible and nobody did a thing to confront him at any point in the game.

He dropped a ball on him and walked off, he came out the next half and went 3-10. What Nerlens and Solomon did were tough, what Randle did is what losers do when things don't go their way.

Nah, he wasn’t dodging smoke from anyone like this team does.

We lost that game, we lost that series.