PG: Knicks vs ATL

[NoDopeOnSundays]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

When's the bail hearing? Tell Diddy I said Bad Boy did in fact stop.

[HEZI]

Thank you for posting this, and thank you to Awful coaching for doing the lords work, this is impeccable timing.

Video highlights it all. I turned off the volume so didn’t listen to the biased commentary but just watched the video and yup it’s all there. I tried to tell you they can’t defend

LMAO

Embarrassing.

What did I miss in the commentary that I couldn’t see from the video? The video is good quality so it’s all there to see. Try it

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Video highlights it all. I turned off the volume so didn’t listen to the biased commentary but just watched the video and yup it’s all there. I tried to tell you they can’t defend

LMAO

Embarrassing.

What did I miss in the commentary that I couldn’t see from the video? The video is good quality so it’s all there to see. Try it

Damn man, this is such a bad look for you, like a Benzino diss track I never wanted you to go out this bad, but damn.

[Gravy]

Knicks were 4th in rebounding last season. 1st in offensive rebounds

This season we are 25th in rebounding and 21 in offensive rebounds. They lost their toughness.

I don't think rebounding has anything to do with it. They are sufficiently better offensively. Less opportunities for offensive rebounds. But I do think there's an edge that isn't there.

They are better offensively when they are hitting their shots and they put up 140. When the whole team is cold last year they had rebounding to give them more shots and take away the opponent's shots. Now when they are cold they dont have other ways to win consistently. Not enough rebounding, defense, or getting to the line.

[thebuzzardman]

It'll be okay guys. This team is still winning the title.

Lol. No.

[Capn'O]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

I've said as much as well. We've got a good team but won't have a great one until we figure out the defense. That said, I think we're better than the "stand pat" option where we still lose iHart. We didn't replace iHart (2nd on the team in WS last year) and Mitch isn't healthy yet so hopefully the latter of those will help in that regard or we can figure something else out. If not, we have a good team but not a contender.

Best to you and yours.

[HEZI]

LMAO

Embarrassing.

What did I miss in the commentary that I couldn’t see from the video? The video is good quality so it’s all there to see. Try it

Damn man, this is such a bad look for you, like a Benzino diss track I never wanted you to go out this bad, but damn.

Sure but you still didn’t answer my question

[thebuzzardman]

Looks like we'll be treading water till Mitch returns.

But then, if things don't pick up significantly (though we're doing OK now, just not where we all thought getting Mikal and kat for Randle would put us [not counting DDV here or loss of IHART[ ) what can be done?

They just gave Thibs a bag. Would they really jetison him? (And I'm in the pro Thibs corner but would like someone to threaten him to WAKE UP once in a wihle and make adjustments).

And if no coaching changes are in the offing, how can we improve?

I don't think even having Mitch at his best would put us much past last year's team - 2n round exit.

Not complaining - much better than the previous 20 years.

Still...to be so close last year we could taste it to have fallen back into B/B minus from B plus/A minus level is ... sad.

Now we're waiting on this lazy broken down redneck to save us.

Yeah. This team is ****

[3toheadmelo]

We clearly won the Randle trade.

The main issue comes from the loss of iHart and Mitch.

Mikal doesn't make up for the loss of either defensively even as we transitioned to a more perimeter-based defense. This isn't even an anti-Mikal stance - he's played fine over the last few weeks (though never worth the draft capital he cost).

If Mikal played like Caruso on defense, then it would significantly mitigate the loss of rim protection and stabilize the defense even as we transition to a more perimeter-heavy defense to keep our lack of rim protection from being exposed.

But Mikal isn't Caruso. And we can't expect him to be. He can't make up for the loss of defensive impact that Mitch and iHart provided, despite his reputation as a rangy defender.

In any case, the Hawks are a decent team. Losing against them isn't great, but it's not as damning as losing to Detroit. We should be winning those games though.

I’ll save you the paragraphs

We lost both trades

We won the KAT trade and I think it's pretty clear cut. The offseason wasn't limited to that trade - a lot happened in the summer and our lesser record can be explained by diverse other factors.

I'm not worried about the team tbh - but they'll need to win at a higher rate in the second half of the season. If they stall in March, I think then it will be cause for concern.

I don’t think we’ve won anything. This team can’t beat contenders. Last season we were beating contenders with Randle and Donte. Randle and Donte are more valuable to thibs and Brunson than KAT imo

I’m not worried about the team because I’ve already accepted we’re mid I don’t see us changing into a top tier team by March. I would love to be wrong though

[Jalen Bluntson]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

We can't win without Mitch!

[whocares1]

Thank you for posting this, and thank you to Awful coaching for doing the lords work, this is impeccable timing.

Video highlights it all. I turned off the volume so didn’t listen to the biased commentary but just watched the video and yup it’s all there. I tried to tell you they can’t defend

LMAO

Embarrassing.

I don’t get how people find it fun to troll every single day.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Knicks were 4th in rebounding last season. 1st in offensive rebounds

This season we are 25th in rebounding and 21 in offensive rebounds. They lost their toughness.

I don't think rebounding has anything to do with it. They are sufficiently better offensively. Less opportunities for offensive rebounds. But I do think there's an edge that isn't there.

They are better offensively when they are hitting their shots and they put up 140. When the whole team is cold last year they had rebounding to give them more shots and take away the opponent's shots. Now when they are cold they dont have other ways to win consistently. Not enough rebounding, defense, or getting to the line.

Defensive rebounding is an issue, but when your team shoots well and also plays at a slow pace you're just not going to offensive rebound. For instance, the Cavs with their two bigs play at a faster pace than us and we get slightly more offensive rebounds per game than them, the only teams that shoot like us and do somewhat well on the offensive glass also play at the fastest paces in the league. The Mavs, Nuggets and Grizz play at the 11th, 5th and 1st paces, so there's just more possessions.


The defensive rebounding does need to get better, KAT and Hart are it as far as getting boards, last year Donte was better on the glass than Mikal is right now which is kind of sad. Teams like the Hawks, and I'd imagine the Magic when they're whole will be problems for us because their wings are bigger and can rebound like Hart.

[Jeff Van Gully]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

When's the bail hearing? Tell Diddy I said Bad Boy did in fact stop.

sham, this man said you were in MDC making toilet coquito.

[NYKinMIA]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

When's the bail hearing? Tell Diddy I said Bad Boy did in fact stop.

sham, this man said you were in MDC making toilet coquito.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Video highlights it all. I turned off the volume so didn’t listen to the biased commentary but just watched the video and yup it’s all there. I tried to tell you they can’t defend

LMAO

Embarrassing.

I don’t get how people find it fun to troll every single day.

Dude is obviously trolling at this point.

[whocares1]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

I've said as much as well. We've got a good team but won't have a great one until we figure out the defense. That said, I think we're better than the "stand pat" option where we still lose iHart. We didn't replace iHart (2nd on the team in WS last year) and Mitch isn't healthy yet so hopefully the latter of those will help in that regard or we can figure something else out. If not, we have a good team but not a contender.

Best to you and yours.

We are just missing a rim protecting big. We went from Randle and Divo to Mikal and Towns, and all things considered that’s either a lateral move defensively or we got a little better. We just don’t have the dynamic shot blocker that helps Thibs from being exposed on a nightly basis. The issue now is that is a Thibs led defensive team good enough to win a championship especially with his shortcomings offensively? And I think we know the answer to that.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

hey fellas, just checking in. haven't been here in a little while.

my 2 cents. the problem with being an offense first team instead of a defense and rebounding first team is that defense can be relied upon and offense can't. kat is a better player than randle and mikal is a better player than donte but is the team really any better ? probably at the end of the day they'll end up somewhere close to the same. so what was the point ? i got too much going on to care a lot right now but that's what i think. anyway, hope y'all are good and your families are healthy.

When's the bail hearing? Tell Diddy I said Bad Boy did in fact stop.

sham, this man said you were in MDC making toilet coquito.

He let me shape the narrative




I'd expect no less from him if the roles were reversed, but I'm not in holding.

[whocares1]

LMAO

Embarrassing.

I don’t get how people find it fun to troll every single day.

Dude is obviously trolling at this point.

Like if he watches the video he’d see that plays involving multiple plus defenders like OG and Deuce are getting confused on screen actions and this guy will say “we just can’t defend.”

[3toheadmelo]

Nope. I admitted my mistakes in that post. You are here actually proving what I said. Are we really gonna do a back and forth about this or can I get back to hating Thibs in peace?

Did you admit you deflect and repeatedly troll in your post? I’ll let you get back to hating Thibs

I admitted that you do. The discussion was about you trolling the entire board. I defended you! This little back and forth actually validates my entire post! I do not troll. I do not deflect. I just engage in silly arguments due to being stubborn at times. I actually corrected most of my silly behavior. You on the other hand...... probably never.

Just proved my point again

[kNicksGmen]

ihart was smart to jump ship. OKC prob wins 2 titles the next few years while we'll be a treadmill team with an aging mid "superstar" in brunson and KAT with decent role players getting paid like stars. meanwhile OKC is stacked. he prob takes a paycut in 3 years to stay with them.