Get ORL a backcourt playmaker who can score

[BlazersBroncos]

Y’all can just have Simons at this point for the 2nd rounder poo poo platter.

That's wild after being 5 months removed from people suggesting multiple firsts for him. What happened? Did the injuries mess everything for him up. I think most Magic fans were cheering for him on any team since he is a hometown kid.

Consider me out on CJ. If the asking price is Isaac and 2 firsts, that is way too much. I still feel like Sexton would be the most likely if I was booking odds to be the target. My question as always is do the Magic use 1sts on a small upgrade or blow many first on a home run shot.

And for my joke answer, find the scout that found Goga and send him to work on finding a PG.

Who would the home run shot be?

As for Simons - I think PDX would still want a FRP despite his struggles this year. But something very protected (IE lowest of ORL 25 FRP - both Top-20 protected - reverts to SRP if both FRP are better than pick 20)

A outside the box idea would be someone like Scottie Pippen JR - cheap for years and could be given the chance to start in ORL. Not quite the shooter but a more true PG than Suggs IMO and has the defensive chops to fit into the ORL 2-way scheme.

Could MEM pass on the lower of 25 ORL FRP for SPJ? A guy that at best is the long term backup to Ja? Gives them more to offer in a trade for a bigger fish.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Lakers fans trying to move Dlo into Orlando to make him their problem. No thanks. lol.

Also no thanks on Simons, Poole, or CJ.


Magic don’t need to acquire a guy to take a healthy amount of shots away from Franz or Paolo while also sacrificing defense .

I think C. White, Sexton, and Schroeder to a lesser extent make sense for Orlando. That’s probably the tier of value they are looking at until the Anthony Black situation becomes clearer.

This is also where I’m at to an extent.

Orlando is committed to Suggs at PG whether fans like it or not and no they’re not going to do a dramatic change to the SL mid season (while actually playing better than expected with all things considered).

KCP was a big Magic free agent acquisition, optics alone they’re not trading him or moving him to the bench. Maybe they look at different things this summer, but KCP is a lock to start in my eyes and has been playing decent as of late and should only get better with time (continuity).

That leaves only two true areas of improvements (realistically), backup SG and utility combo guard. Gary Harris and Cole Anthony currently occupy these roles.

Looking at the players mentioned and their contracts/perceived role/fit you can disregard:

CJ McCollum
D’Angelo Russell
Anfernee Simons
Jordan Poole
Coby White

That really leaves only two realistic options, Dennis Schroeder and Collin Sexton which both shouldn’t mind coming off the bench.

If I was a betting man I would think Orlando values flexibility so I would assume their preference in the two would be Schroder especially considering he has strong ties with a couple of our players.

However, their interest would be contingent to Brooklyns asking price. I don’t see Orlando shedding a FRP for a potential rental/expiring contract so think those talks end the second that is mentioned (nor do I think Dennis has that kind of value).

I think after all said and done Brooklyn takes the highest offer which is probably a few SRP’s and a filler contract that doesn’t exceed next season and calls it a day.

[Skybox]

Y’all can just have Simons at this point for the 2nd rounder poo poo platter.

That's wild after being 5 months removed from people suggesting multiple firsts for him. What happened? Did the injuries mess everything for him up. I think most Magic fans were cheering for him on any team since he is a hometown kid.

Consider me out on CJ. If the asking price is Isaac and 2 firsts, that is way too much. I still feel like Sexton would be the most likely if I was booking odds to be the target. My question as always is do the Magic use 1sts on a small upgrade or blow many first on a home run shot.

And for my joke answer, find the scout that found Goga and send him to work on finding a PG.

The asking price for CJ alone is NOWHERE near Isaac and 2 frps...my post tried to capitalize on his borderline value by adding in Herb, who is a fantastic role player...that we don't really need, given our handful of 3&D guys (that currently can't hit 3's ). I figure NOLA might be open for business. I didn't really want to include Isaac, but he's a valuable asset, particularly because he salary matches high this year, but descends significantly...which, imo, greatly diminishes the concerns about his injuries. For those objecting to CJ's or Simons' "injury histories"...that's a load of crap, if you feel that strongly, you should immediately lobby to dump Isaac, WCJ - just for starters.

CJ alone is probably just salary matching and maybe a late frp or srps. This doesn't make CJ bad, it's a matter of where NOLA is and how much tax they want to pay while angling for lottery luck.

[Blazinaway]

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Not sure how good/bad "NBA Central is"

They're just an aggregator account, and all they're reporting is betting odds from another company.

I would be hesitant to trust anything posted about Orlando, their front office has no leaks.

[Norm2953]

If it were up to Skybox, Simons would already be in Orlando

[Pattycakes]

If the blazers land a single asset for Ant from orl, great. He’s holding us back extremely

[Ducklett]

If the blazers land a single asset for Ant from orl, great. He’s holding us back extremely

What a glowing endorsement LOL

Why have you soured on him personally?

[zzaj]

If the blazers land a single asset for Ant from orl, great. He’s holding us back extremely

What a glowing endorsement LOL

Why have you soured on him personally?

Won't speak for Patty...but my feelings:

1) He still occasionally puts up 30 points in Ws for a team trying to tank.
2) He doesn't play defense, which doesn't match the burgeoning identity of the Blazers.
3) I'm tired of small SGs, and he is incapable of playing PG in Billups "system" (yeah, lol at that).
4) Simons would thrive as a 6th man in a new role. As the incumbent "vet" at guard, he'll never be a 6th man...however, whether any team would make him a 6th man scorer off the bench with his salary is questionable.

[mg]

Simons currently averages 37 MPG and attempts 15 shots per game. I don't really see how Orlando fits that into their current guard rotation. Is he going to suddenly be ok getting 24 MPG off the bench? His salary certainly doesn't match up with a bench guard either. He makes $26 mil this season and $27.5 mil next season which is an overpay in this market for a one way player. If he played any defense or able to play PG he would be worth close to that salary.

He is a fun little player but will need to embrace that 6th man role at some point if he's ever going to contribute on a winning team. Right now he's closer to Poole territory but fortunately for the Blazers he only has 1.5 years left on that contract. It's not the worst thing in the world to have a tank commander heading into the next 2 drafts although he's obviously taking minutes from their younger guards. There should still be enough minutes to go around but obviously someone like Scoot or Sharpe likely comes off the bench.

[Skybox]

Simons currently averages 37 MPG and attempts 15 shots per game. I don't really see how Orlando fits that into their current guard rotation. Is he going to suddenly be ok getting 24 MPG off the bench? His salary certainly doesn't match up with a bench guard either. He makes $26 mil this season and $27.5 mil next season which is an overpay in this market for a one way player. If he played any defense or able to play PG he would be worth close to that salary.

He is a fun little player but will need to embrace that 6th man role at some point if he's ever going to contribute on a winning team. Right now he's closer to Poole territory but fortunately for the Blazers he only has 1.5 years left on that contract. It's not the worst thing in the world to have a tank commander heading into the next 2 drafts although he's obviously taking minutes from their younger guards. There should still be enough minutes to go around but obviously someone like Scoot or Sharpe likely comes off the bench.

I don't think it's unthinkable for a player who has spent his best years losing and being criticized for his "empty stats" to recognize an opportunity to change the narrative...Everyone in the NBA is a killer by nature (or they wouldn't have gotten here) - if you give them minutes, or shots, they will gobble them up. Ultimately, many come to realize their place in the league is a more limited role on a winning team. IMO, the math is not simply plugging in minutes and shots and seeing if it adds up. Jrue or Derrick White could be the best player on a lot of teams, but they have found a higher calling.

I think Simons could "get" that. Sexton also might be in that spot in his career (old enough to win the world but young enough to lose it) that he might see where he can best fit. I think CJ McCollum might be ready for that. Schroder has seen many highs & lows and will readily a chance to play an important role for a winner - he WON'T be "taking the ball out of Steph's hands". Poole might just be too dumb to get it.

The Magic have room for a significant backcourt role, with 20+ mpg...AB & KCP are big and tough enough to defend SF's, so they can pick up mins there too. I guess I can only speak for myself, but unless we're discussing De'Aaron Fox or Garland, I'm not proposing a total makeover of the starting lineup or of the offensive pecking order. Paolo & Franz will still eat first, but Orl can't get very far if the offense just falls off a cliff after those two. With both of them out, I could see a guy like CJ or Simons averaging 30ppg for a short period of "green light" time, and then settling into a secondary role for the duration.

[shrink]

If the blazers land a single asset for Ant from orl, great. He’s holding us back extremely

You guys need to stop calling him “Ant” in public. That nickname has been usurped!

You can do it. I’m a longtime Hawkeye fan, but I still call our guy “Garza” in general NBA conversations.