Game 25: NBA Cup Semis: Bucks/Hawks - 12/14 - 3:30 - TNT

emunney · Post #21 » by **emunney** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:41 pm

The thing about the Hawks is that they have all their super injury prone players healthy at the same time. It won't last, but they're going to be tough while it does.

Post #22 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:52 pm

Tickets available if you happen to be in Vegas this weekend, starting at about $50. Interesting that they aren't using Ticketmaster, they are using AXS. Ticketmaster has resale tickets available but face value tix can only be found on AXS. More tix available for this game than the second one, makes sense, 1:30 is not prime time in Vegas.

Plossum · Post #23 » by **Plossum** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:09 pm

They took 24 more shots than us when we played a week ago. If we don’t want to push the pace ourselves, we’ve got to prioritise getting back and set on D. Even if means sacrificing some offensive boards.

engelmartin · Post #24 » by **engelmartin** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:15 pm

The key here is definitely to control the pace. And for Dame to make his shots. Make Trae defend!

Man I would have preferred the Knicks.

tsamo · Post #25 » by **tsamo** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:32 pm

We need to cut down on our turnovers, especially our playmaking ones... I'm looking at you Dame.
Because we give up way too many easy baskets. We could really use Middleton from the start of the game to set some pace and take care of the ball.

Hopefully being rested, we come out with a better effort than last time.
Do we know if Prince is over his illness?

Plossum · Post #26 » by **Plossum** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:39 pm

The Dame v Daniels matchup will be interesting. Daniels absolutely wrecked Brunson last night.

BigO · Post #27 » by **BigO** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:45 pm

tsamo wrote:We need to cut down on our turnovers, especially our playmaking ones... I'm looking at you Dame.
Because we give up way too many easy baskets. We could really use Middleton from the start of the game to set some pace and take care of the ball.

Hopefully being rested, we come out with a better effort than last time.
Do we know if Prince is over his illness?

Yes, the turnovers are killing the Bucks. Giannis and Dame are the biggest culprits. So far KM has been fine, but he can be a turnover machine also. Dame, KM and Giannis all like to make the home run pass. It ends up being a basket or a turnover.

Perishable517 · Post #28 » by **Perishable517** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:12 am

Serge28 wrote:P.S. Last time I saw a Bucks-Hawks game in person was Game 5 of 2021 ECF, which the Bucks won.

Lol, last time I saw the Hawks live was the first year at the BC.

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KidA24 · Post #29 » by **KidA24** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:23 am

BigO wrote:
tsamo wrote:We need to cut down on our turnovers, especially our playmaking ones... I'm looking at you Dame.
Because we give up way too many easy baskets. We could really use Middleton from the start of the game to set some pace and take care of the ball.

Hopefully being rested, we come out with a better effort than last time.
Do we know if Prince is over his illness?

Yes, the turnovers are killing the Bucks. Giannis and Dame are the biggest culprits. So far KM has been fine, but he can be a turnover machine also. Dame, KM and Giannis all like to make the home run pass. It ends up being a basket or a turnover.

Middleton's Assist/TO ratio has been better than Giannis every year for the past 5 seasons.

The idea that he is turnover prone is simply untrue for the amount of playmaking he does.

Post #30 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:28 am

BigO wrote:
Yes, the turnovers are killing the Bucks. Giannis and Dame are the biggest culprits.

Giannis and Dame are starting to resemble Big Dog. Their turnovers are a little bit different, but in the end have been a huge problem.

Sort of wish we had a 2018 George Hill here. That guy is what we need in the backcourt to compliment Dame.

ShootingtheJ · Post #31 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:40 am

KidA24 wrote:
BigO wrote:
tsamo wrote:We need to cut down on our turnovers, especially our playmaking ones... I'm looking at you Dame.
Because we give up way too many easy baskets. We could really use Middleton from the start of the game to set some pace and take care of the ball.

Hopefully being rested, we come out with a better effort than last time.
Do we know if Prince is over his illness?

Yes, the turnovers are killing the Bucks. Giannis and Dame are the biggest culprits. So far KM has been fine, but he can be a turnover machine also. Dame, KM and Giannis all like to make the home run pass. It ends up being a basket or a turnover.

Middleton's Assist/TO ratio has been better than Giannis every year for the past 5 seasons.

The idea that he is turnover prone is simply untrue for the amount of playmaking he does.

Yup. This year it's even more extreme, as Khris is averaging 10.6 assists per 36. Taking Delon Wright's backup PG minutes have really exploited Mids playmaking skills.

blazza18 · Post #32 » by **blazza18** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:58 am

I don't trust our age or discipline in this one. Hope to be proven wrong.

blazza18 · Post #33 » by **blazza18** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:06 am

KidA24 wrote:Middleton's Assist/TO ratio has been better than Giannis every year for the past 5 seasons.

The idea that he is turnover prone is simply untrue for the amount of playmaking he does.

His turnover % is slightly higher across those 5 years. I'd say as much as any player his turnovers all feel unforced and always look ugly which makes him look worse than he is. He also gets in trouble trying to do too much sometimes which also make him look worse than he actually is.

Post #34 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:53 am

Read on Twitter

HKPackFan · Post #35 » by **HKPackFan** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:24 am

MUST WIN!

Badgerlander · Post #36 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:54 am

I don’t see how we win this one unless we hit a ridiculous % of our 3s and/or the refs give us a ton of fts AND Giannis makes them. The Hawks are better than us defensively, deeper roster, more athletic, and better coached.

Post #37 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:07 pm

Hot take, Doc > Snyder

pifhluk23 · Post #38 » by **pifhluk23** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:15 pm

Energy and effort we win. Brook should be subbed out/in with Capela unless he has his 1/20 games where he is hitting 3s.

randy84 · Post #39 » by **randy84** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:17 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Hot take, Doc > Snyder

BigO · Post #40 » by **BigO** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:16 pm

blazza18 wrote:
KidA24 wrote:Middleton's Assist/TO ratio has been better than Giannis every year for the past 5 seasons.

The idea that he is turnover prone is simply untrue for the amount of playmaking he does.

His turnover % is slightly higher across those 5 years. I'd say as much as any player his turnovers all feel unforced and always look ugly which makes him look worse than he is. He also gets in trouble trying to do too much sometimes which also make him look worse than he actually is.

I've said that the Bucks need KM to win a title, but I don't know how you could have watched KM over the years and not say he has a turnover problem. His turnover percentage has been higher than Giannis in a lot of years.

He has false confidence that he can dribble thru quicker players. Recognizing a player's weakness is not saying he's a bad player.