Official 2024-2024 Magic Trade Ideas Thread

[I Rasharted]

how old were they when their teams made moves to make the team better and go deeper into the playoffs?

This. All of those teams were elite for a long time before winning a championship. Magic are not an elite team.

[I Rasharted]

Fox or bust. Apron schmapron.

[Skybox]

DAL needs perimeter DAWG defender
NOLA needs starting C
ORL needs backcourt playmaker/scorer without sacrificing POA defense...

ORL sends: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray

NOLA sends: Dejounte Murray
NOLA gets: Daniel Gafford, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp

DAL sends: Daniel Gafford,
DAL gets: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

[yoyojw17]

I think the approach could be a bit different instead of spot to spot on a potential championship team. A lot of roster could be figured out itself if we figure out our championship core.

Examples? Chicago got MJ and Pippen then they added Rodman.

Lakers got Kobe and Shaq who was a free agent addition

Miami Heat’s Big three with LeBron, Wade and Bosh

My point is to get a top players core and that is more important than anything else. Will Paolo and Franz be top players in the league? What about Jalen? Can he emerge as a reliable scorer? You need superstars if you wanna win and the formula is always the same.

Do I see drastic changes in the next couple years? Not really. But that is my approach of taking it to win it all

I am not saying incremental pieces won't matter. But they shouldn't be a priority and they shouldn't matter as much

This is a classic example of not understanding markets.

Miami, Los Angeles, and Chicago are not Orlando, Florida.

What I'm trying to say is that a small market wont have big names walking through the door simply because the team is good. It will never be that premier destination.

Who was Orlando's last HUGE free agent? Rashard Lewis nearly 20 years ago who was only an allstar 2 seasons prior?

Oklahoma City is HOW Orlando follows success. Not the organizations you mentioned.

Draft your guys, retain them, trade on the margins for upside, move players that dont fit the system, value your draft picks, don't make huge consolidations unless you are absolutely sure you can win a championship.

This trade thread will never see names like Lebron, Harden, Durant, etc. as serious conversation. They aren't on the table for this organization unless they are 40 and looking to get paid into retirement.

I love these moments when we see eye to eye! Haha

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I think the approach could be a bit different instead of spot to spot on a potential championship team. A lot of roster could be figured out itself if we figure out our championship core.

Examples? Chicago got MJ and Pippen then they added Rodman.

Lakers got Kobe and Shaq who was a free agent addition

Miami Heat’s Big three with LeBron, Wade and Bosh

My point is to get a top players core and that is more important than anything else. Will Paolo and Franz be top players in the league? What about Jalen? Can he emerge as a reliable scorer? You need superstars if you wanna win and the formula is always the same.

Do I see drastic changes in the next couple years? Not really. But that is my approach of taking it to win it all

I am not saying incremental pieces won't matter. But they shouldn't be a priority and they shouldn't matter as much

This is a classic example of not understanding markets.

Miami, Los Angeles, and Chicago are not Orlando, Florida.

What I'm trying to say is that a small market wont have big names walking through the door simply because the team is good. It will never be that premier destination.

Who was Orlando's last HUGE free agent? Rashard Lewis nearly 20 years ago who was only an allstar 2 seasons prior?

Oklahoma City is HOW Orlando follows success. Not the organizations you mentioned.

Draft your guys, retain them, trade on the margins for upside, move players that dont fit the system, value your draft picks, don't make huge consolidations unless you are absolutely sure you can win a championship.

This trade thread will never see names like Lebron, Harden, Durant, etc. as serious conversation. They aren't on the table for this organization unless they are 40 and looking to get paid into retirement.

I love these moments when we see eye to eye! Haha

It’s rare lol.

But here’s the thing. Nothing I’m saying is an opinion. It’s just a fact of how certain teams must operate.

Now IMO I think this FO must get rid of Cole,Carter, and make a huge decision on AB and Jett within the next season like OKC did with Giddey.

Why? Because they already have their established soon to be expensive core and must maximize on court production with those guys based on skill sets. Anything otherwise is just kicking the can down the road and overpaying for dudes in free agency because they didn’t act soon enough.

In other words, make your own luck and don’t let the free agency market decide ultimately who is available to them. Orlando doesn’t have the same luxury the Clippers or Lakers do.

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DAL needs perimeter DAWG defender
NOLA needs starting C
ORL needs backcourt playmaker/scorer without sacrificing POA defense...

ORL sends: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray

NOLA sends: Dejounte Murray
NOLA gets: Daniel Gafford, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp

DAL sends: Daniel Gafford,
DAL gets: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

I’d be ok with this honestly.

[eyriq]

The key lessons to learn from previous rebuilds is that you should never give up on lotto talent early, never compromise the culture and team chemistry (mishandling egos tanked Durant's OKC and Garnett's Minny), and compliment your core when they are in their prime.

Edit: in other words, wait another two seasons.

[RichCollab]

DAL needs perimeter DAWG defender
NOLA needs starting C
ORL needs backcourt playmaker/scorer without sacrificing POA defense...

ORL sends: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray

NOLA sends: Dejounte Murray
NOLA gets: Daniel Gafford, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp

DAL sends: Daniel Gafford,
DAL gets: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

I’d be ok with this honestly.

I’m out on D. Murray. ATL was fine before and after him.

Pelicans are a mess but not sure he makes them any better while he is on the floor.

[Skybox]

DAL needs perimeter DAWG defender
NOLA needs starting C
ORL needs backcourt playmaker/scorer without sacrificing POA defense...

ORL sends: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray

NOLA sends: Dejounte Murray
NOLA gets: Daniel Gafford, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp

DAL sends: Daniel Gafford,
DAL gets: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

I’d be ok with this honestly.

Apparently it's highly insulting to NOLA

[Skybox]

DAL needs perimeter DAWG defender
NOLA needs starting C
ORL needs backcourt playmaker/scorer without sacrificing POA defense...

ORL sends: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp
ORL gets: Dejounte Murray

NOLA sends: Dejounte Murray
NOLA gets: Daniel Gafford, worst of ORL 25 or DEN 25 frp

DAL sends: Daniel Gafford,
DAL gets: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

I’d be ok with this honestly.

I’m out on D. Murray. ATL was fine before and after him.

Pelicans are a mess but not sure he makes them any better while he is on the floor.

ATL has the most ball-dominant player since Iverson next to Murray...that's a waste of Murray's skillset and, understandably frustrating. I know FO won't move their "big get" KCP, but it never made sense. He's a very good player, but AB's ascendance and, especially, Suggs' identical skillset make KCP odd man out in any kind of conventional lineup.

I'm honestly good with KCP/Suggs lining up with our star forwards, but we need a playmaking guard somewhere in the top 6 or 7...Murray would be a bigger swing than just taking in a Schroder or Simons or Sexton as a Cole upgrade.

[Skybox]

I’d be ok with this honestly.

I’m out on D. Murray. ATL was fine before and after him.

Pelicans are a mess but not sure he makes them any better while he is on the floor.

ATL has the most ball-dominant player since Iverson next to Murray...that's a waste of Murray's skillset and, understandably frustrating. I know FO won't move their "big get" KCP, but it never made sense. He's a very good player, but AB's ascendance and, especially, Suggs' identical skillset make KCP odd man out in any kind of conventional lineup.

I'm honestly good with KCP/Suggs lining up with our star forwards, but we need a playmaking guard somewhere in the top 6 or 7...Murray would be a bigger swing than just taking in a Schroder or Simons or Sexton as a Cole upgrade.

You could say that ATL bringing in Murray to play next to Trae makes as little sense as ORL signing KCP to play next to Suggs

[RichCollab]

I’m out on D. Murray. ATL was fine before and after him.

Pelicans are a mess but not sure he makes them any better while he is on the floor.

ATL has the most ball-dominant player since Iverson next to Murray...that's a waste of Murray's skillset and, understandably frustrating. I know FO won't move their "big get" KCP, but it never made sense. He's a very good player, but AB's ascendance and, especially, Suggs' identical skillset make KCP odd man out in any kind of conventional lineup.

I'm honestly good with KCP/Suggs lining up with our star forwards, but we need a playmaking guard somewhere in the top 6 or 7...Murray would be a bigger swing than just taking in a Schroder or Simons or Sexton as a Cole upgrade.

You could say that ATL bringing in Murray to play next to Trae makes as little sense as ORL signing KCP to play next to Suggs

We have two ball dominant forwards.

[Skybox]

ATL has the most ball-dominant player since Iverson next to Murray...that's a waste of Murray's skillset and, understandably frustrating. I know FO won't move their "big get" KCP, but it never made sense. He's a very good player, but AB's ascendance and, especially, Suggs' identical skillset make KCP odd man out in any kind of conventional lineup.

I'm honestly good with KCP/Suggs lining up with our star forwards, but we need a playmaking guard somewhere in the top 6 or 7...Murray would be a bigger swing than just taking in a Schroder or Simons or Sexton as a Cole upgrade.

You could say that ATL bringing in Murray to play next to Trae makes as little sense as ORL signing KCP to play next to Suggs

We have two ball dominant forwards.

understood...certainly more defensible than ATL's move, but still not ideal, imo

[Ducklett]

You could say that ATL bringing in Murray to play next to Trae makes as little sense as ORL signing KCP to play next to Suggs

We have two ball dominant forwards.

understood...certainly more defensible than ATL's move, but still not ideal, imo

Not like KCP and Suggs are both top 10 in nearly every defensive metric while also guarding the best players om the other team or anything. What losers.

[Skybox]

We have two ball dominant forwards.

understood...certainly more defensible than ATL's move, but still not ideal, imo

Not like KCP and Suggs are both top 10 in nearly every defensive metric while also guarding the best players om the other team or anything. What losers.

Somebody calling them losers?

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I’ll take slightly less defensive impact from DM if it means the team can have 1 other guy that can create offense on and off ball.

[Skybox]

I’ll take slightly less defensive impact from DM if it means the team can have 1 other guy that can create offense on and off ball.

and Murray is certainly not a bad defender...he's as long and nasty as KCP, historically, at least. I think he'd love it with Mose.

[Ducklett]

understood...certainly more defensible than ATL's move, but still not ideal, imo

Not like KCP and Suggs are both top 10 in nearly every defensive metric while also guarding the best players om the other team or anything. What losers.

Somebody calling them losers?

People on that T and T thread were talking about KCP falling off lol.

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Not like KCP and Suggs are both top 10 in nearly every defensive metric while also guarding the best players om the other team or anything. What losers.

Somebody calling them losers?

People on that T and T thread were talking about KCP falling off lol.

But are they wrong? He basically has offensively.

[T-Cat]

What will this team do with Mo Wagner team option coming up next year, can we afford to keep him after that?