Bruce Brown - is there any market for him?

[vxmike]

If Chicago is moving on from Williams that cheaply, I hope Dallas takes the risk.

Williams has shown almost zero growth in five years. It’s a pretty bad contract at this point.

The next level of “big 3/d wings” costs more than Dallas can afford so yeah, understanding he’s not ideal... Dallas has bad contracts to work with as well. They’re attached to players on other side of 30 though so it feels worse, but they expire earlier..

I agree he is overpaid now, but a flat 18 million should age well with the cap continuing to jump. Most likely, you have a guy making a couple million a year too much locked up through 2029. Maybe you get lucky and you have a really good 3/d forward locked up cheap through 2028 and he opts out.

It is worth the risk if the price is bad contracts and a late first or Expirings and a couple throw in seconds.

While I’m down on Willams as an $18m/yr player I actually see the fit on Dallas as a very low usage 3&D SF next to Luka and Kyrie. He’s a terrible rebounder and the Bulls keep trying to make him a PF. He also has no drive on offense but that’s fine when you have Luka and Kyrie. He’s a really good defender and can hit open 3s, but that’s all you will ever get.

[jayjaysee]

While I’m down on Willams as an $18m/yr player I actually see the fit on Dallas as a very low usage 3&D SF next to Luka and Kyrie. He’s a terrible rebounder and the Bulls keep trying to make him a PF. He also has no drive on offense but that’s fine when you have Luka and Kyrie. He’s a really good defender and can hit open 3s, but that’s all you will ever get.

And while being overpaid, he makes a low enough amount that you can match with Klay and Powell. Which is why I think it still costs Dallas a real asset as those guys do nothing for Chicago obviously.

For Dallas, it’s a really good fit IMO as you have strong rim protection and two elite playmakers... A “lowered expectations” fit, but still.

[vxmike]

While I’m down on Willams as an $18m/yr player I actually see the fit on Dallas as a very low usage 3&D SF next to Luka and Kyrie. He’s a terrible rebounder and the Bulls keep trying to make him a PF. He also has no drive on offense but that’s fine when you have Luka and Kyrie. He’s a really good defender and can hit open 3s, but that’s all you will ever get.

And while being overpaid, he makes a low enough amount that you can match with Klay and Powell. Which is why I think it still costs Dallas a real asset as those guys do nothing for Chicago obviously.

For Dallas, it’s a really good fit IMO as you have strong rim protection and two elite playmakers... A “lowered expectations” fit, but still.

The Bulls won’t want Klay’s contract. Make it Kleiber/Powell and it’s more palatable.

[Texas Chuck]

Using your example, Brown + Boucher ($33.8M) for Ben Simmons + 2 SRPs ($40.3M) works, and I'd take it for TOR

Sure. But why is Brooklyn doing that?

If BRK is active at the TDL, they may need to shave money off their cap sheet.

It's an example; the dollars matter far more than the names/players. Just like TOR flipped McDaniels for Mitchell+Vezenkov + 2 SRPs, it only makes sense if you ignore the names and look at the salary numbers

I understand the concept of money deals. It's like 90% of what I post.

But Brooklyn doesn't need to save the prorated salary so why would they overpay to do so? Sure there are scenarios I guess where they need to shed $7M or so and maybe they pay someone at that point. But we aren't there.

If we create a new scenario that doesn't currently exist, okay.

[jayjaysee]

The Bulls won’t want Klay’s contract. Make it Kleiber/Powell and it’s more palatable.

Need to find a third team then unfortunately. Has to have Klay realistically.

Dallas too close to the apron to take back the extra money.

I don’t think it would be too hard to find a team that takes Klay, at least for a lot less salary back.. teams still have to stay on him whereever he is at.. he’s overpaid and his defense is no longer, but yeah.

Earlier was thinking about Houston as a third team in a different Dallas deal. They’ve given up on their cap space dreams and have defenders all over to cover for Klay.. But Detroit should be willing..

[Texas Chuck]

I still have the Lakers as an obvious Klay team. And they have all kinds of options for matching money.

[mademan]

I still have the Lakers as an obvious Klay team. And they have all kinds of options for matching money.

Ya, if Dallas ever decides to trade Klay, Dlo's expiring will be available, imo.