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Should the Warriors make a trade?

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Should the Warriors make a trade?

Poll ended at Mon Dec 2, 2024 11:11 pm

Yes - a major shakeup (Let's be real, Steph and Dray are untouchable, so) let's define this as a trade involving one or more of the 2nd tier guys, players like Wiggins, Kuminga, Podz, and/or a first round pick or picks.
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Yes - a minor move/moves. Something like De'Anthony Melton's expiring contract and a minor piece or pieces?
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No - this team is very good. Stay pat. Don't want to risk a good thing.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#41 » by e83pw2oa9hl5f » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:21 pm

Better question is who do you want to keep. Steph, Dray, Wiggins, Hield, Slomo, that's just a quick list. The rest is based on balanced roster.

I actually like the value of the top contracts on this roster except for GP2

Its always the guys on the end of the bench and bottom of the salary that Kerr bumps up the rotations. Having 12 deep putting last guy on bench as starter. He can't have these types of choices. GM has a lot of work trying to get players to do around coaching.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#42 » by xdrta+ » Thu Nov 28, 2024 6:26 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
would elevating Pat Spencer to the main roster be a prorated 1.1m? Or would he technically be 1.8m (and again, prorated)?


Spencer has 1 year experience because he played 6 games last year for the Warriors. So it would be $1.8M prorated minimum. This year's games won't count toward experience until June 30, when he'll have 2 years.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#43 » by Jester_ » Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:02 pm

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Isn't Kuminga our drive and kick threat? How many assists did he not get because Wiggins and Dray missed the open shots he got them with his forays into the paint? How would last night have gone had Steph been a recipient of some of Kuminga's drive and kick actions?

The problem with Kuminga is that Dray hasn't adjusted his game to allow Kuminga's game to blossom. Barring a trade, the success of this team rests on putting the ball and the keys to the bus in Kuminga's hands.

I think you(and many here) doubt that can work, but if this array of personnel is going to raise its ceiling, that's the only chance it's going to work.


kuminga's court vision is way too poor to be a legitimite drive and kick threat


What would help Kuminga's court vision would be for Kerr to commit to consistent rotations with Kuminga as the playmaker surrounded by shooters. Kuminga has absolutely proven himself a willing passer in the context of his drives causing the defense to collapse and then kicking to open shooters. The more he plays that role, the more he and the various shooters get to know each other's timing, the more crisp and on time the passes get, the more in rhythm the shooters get.

Whether one thinks Kuminga can do it well enough to contend or not, it's still this personnel's best chance of taking a big step forward. I'm just not sure where Draymond belongs in that scheme.


I agree. I think the same issue to a lesser extent is holding moody back. they're struggling to find their place in all the different lineups and rotations
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#44 » by Twinkie defense » Fri Nov 29, 2024 2:11 am

GQ Hot Dog wrote:The problem with Kuminga is that Dray hasn't adjusted his game to allow Kuminga's game to blossom.

:lol:

GQ Hot Dog wrote:What would help Kuminga's court vision would be for Kerr to commit to consistent rotations with Kuminga as the playmaker

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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#45 » by Twinkie defense » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:42 pm

GQ Hot Dog wrote:The problem with Kuminga is that Dray hasn't adjusted his game to allow Kuminga's game to blossom.

Hey, Draymond adjusted his game - giving his starting spot to Kuminga at the four - to allow Kuminga's game to blossom. What a guy.

A lot of pressure on Kuminga now to take advantage of the opportunity.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#46 » by cpower » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:24 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:The problem with Kuminga is that Dray hasn't adjusted his game to allow Kuminga's game to blossom.

:lol:

GQ Hot Dog wrote:What would help Kuminga's court vision would be for Kerr to commit to consistent rotations with Kuminga as the playmaker

:o

Draymond is literally the most portable 4 in the history of the game...he gives you elite defense, passing and toughness...hey he has not adjusted his game to JK? come one man :banghead:
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#47 » by whatisacenter » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:54 pm

If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline so they can incorporate them into the starting lineup. I doubt this will be the path they go down due to salary issues and the types of players who are currently available.

Hopefully the FO will make at least a smaller move like Schroder and not let Melton's expiring go to waste like they did with CP's contract.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#48 » by Twinkie defense » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:05 am

whatisacenter wrote:If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline

Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#49 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:18 am

Twinkie defense wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline

Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#50 » by Onus » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:30 am

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Twinkie defense wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline

Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic

The trade board is all about perceived value which is hilarious because it’s their perceived value and not based in reality. Value changes based on each teams’ needs and goals. I really only go there to see who fans want to get rid of and who fans really like.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#51 » by whatisacenter » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:54 am

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Twinkie defense wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline

Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic


Agree that it's more difficult but it would be helpful to the team to have more time to get a new player used to the system.

I can't think of many trade deadline deals that won a team a championship in the same season anyway....Mavs got to the finals with a trade last season and I think Toronto traded for Gasol in 2019 if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#52 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:58 am

Onus wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic

The trade board is all about perceived value which is hilarious because it’s their perceived value and not based in reality. Value changes based on each teams’ needs and goals. I really only go there to see who fans want to get rid of and who fans really like.


Its just basic.. most of them couldnt wrap their heads around Wiggins being good here because he wasn't in MIN. Just not how the game works - there are very few truly bad players in the NBA, there are several hundred players being asked to do more than they can or in a bad system for what they do well, and more importantly, teams who may have more use for skillsets than others

When Curry leaves/retires, the Warriors will become more basic and align with what they look at.. til then, that place is a rough read. Even from a lot of the Ws fans who post there and ought to know better
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#53 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:34 am

cpower wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:
GQ Hot Dog wrote:The problem with Kuminga is that Dray hasn't adjusted his game to allow Kuminga's game to blossom.

:lol:

GQ Hot Dog wrote:What would help Kuminga's court vision would be for Kerr to commit to consistent rotations with Kuminga as the playmaker

:o

Draymond is literally the most portable 4 in the history of the game...he gives you elite defense, passing and toughness...hey he has not adjusted his game to JK? come one man :banghead:

As of November when I made the point, Draymond hadn't adjusted his game. A lot has changed since then, a big part of which is Draymond putting the ball in Kuminga's hands, rather than trying to be the primary playmaker for shooters every possession. Draymond has directly acknowledged this as well.

So what's your big I-told-you-so?
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#54 » by whatisacenter » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:35 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:If the Warriors were to make a big trade they should do it sooner rather than waiting until the deadline

Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic


Looks like we might get an early trade after all!
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#55 » by CDM_Stats » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:49 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic


Looks like we might get an early trade after all!


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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#56 » by Twinkie defense » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:58 am

whatisacenter wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:Can be hard to make a trade before the deadline, might have to pay a premium - an offer they can't refuse - to get a deal done earlier.


Exactly.. its good to see someone else acknowledging this. Trade board glosses right past anything that isnt basic


Looks like we might get an early trade after all!

Not so "big" though ;)

But nice addition!
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#57 » by watch1958 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:42 am

Curious if Brooklyn can find a use for Melton disabled player exception. Wasn’t any use to us, but it might be to a different team.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#58 » by xdrta+ » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:15 am

watch1958 wrote:Curious if Brooklyn can find a use for Melton disabled player exception. Wasn’t any use to us, but it might be to a different team.


DPE is only for the team he was on when he got injured. Bkn can't apply for one.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#59 » by superunknown » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:57 am

yes they should make a trade.
kuminga and podz out for some serviceable player who can at least give you 15-20 minutes a night of decent basketball.
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Re: Should the Warriors make a trade? 

Post#60 » by Onus » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:14 am

We need another player
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