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Post#201 » by winforlose » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:16 am

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winforlose wrote:Talk about a backhanded compliment.

“Anthony Edwards impressed with Julius Randle: 'I've never seen him play defense before'


Chris Hine: Anthony Edwards, with Julius Randle sitting next to him: “Naz and Julius is ****’ playing defense. You know, I’ve never see [Julius] play defense before. That’s **** incredible, and he’s right here, put the camera on him. He be guarding his ass off.” (Randle was laughing) 16 hours ago – via Bluesky”

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Yes ANT is a smart guy. Find a way to stated that finally Julius and Naz play defense....was about time but it's nice to see. When all players play with this intensity, we look like last year team. Hope it lasted.


The line “I’ve never seen Julius play defense before” is straight up savage. Not only have they been teammates for 21 games to that point, but they faced each other twice a year for the last four years. Maybe one or both were unavailable for some of those 8, but still that is a lot of ball to say he has “never seen him play defense.” Even if that isn’t the literal meaning of the sentence it is still brutal.
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Post#202 » by shrink » Sun Dec 8, 2024 7:59 am

Here’s a shocker. Julius Randle got four votes for the All Defense team in 2020-21!
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Post#203 » by winforlose » Sun Dec 8, 2024 8:40 am

shrink wrote:Here’s a shocker. Julius Randle got four votes for the All Defense team in 2020-21!


You can see why that would be a screaming indictment of Julius Randle? It’s not that he cannot play consistent defense, (to say nothing of good defense,) it’s that he DOES NOT play consistent defense.
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#204 » by El Hespiritu » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:48 pm

I made eventually my mind up.
I was reluctant because you never know... I'm aware he might yet be traded next Deadline as long as CBA allows it.

Still open to debate if he fully belongs but he did way more than enough (both good and bad... not the point) to amply deserve a proper nickname of mine at the very least.

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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#205 » by BlacJacMac » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:45 pm

winforlose wrote:Talk about a backhanded compliment.

“Anthony Edwards impressed with Julius Randle: 'I've never seen him play defense before'


Chris Hine: Anthony Edwards, with Julius Randle sitting next to him: “Naz and Julius is ****’ playing defense. You know, I’ve never see [Julius] play defense before. That’s **** incredible, and he’s right here, put the camera on him. He be guarding his ass off.” (Randle was laughing) 16 hours ago – via Bluesky”

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My guess is you are 100x more offended by it than Randle is.

Its hyperbole and good-natured ribbing at the perception of Randle. The "backhanded" part was there to amplify how strongly Ant felt about his current play.
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#206 » by winforlose » Sun Dec 8, 2024 4:06 pm

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winforlose wrote:Talk about a backhanded compliment.

“Anthony Edwards impressed with Julius Randle: 'I've never seen him play defense before'


Chris Hine: Anthony Edwards, with Julius Randle sitting next to him: “Naz and Julius is ****’ playing defense. You know, I’ve never see [Julius] play defense before. That’s **** incredible, and he’s right here, put the camera on him. He be guarding his ass off.” (Randle was laughing) 16 hours ago – via Bluesky”

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My guess is you are 100x more offended by it than Randle is.

Its hyperbole and good-natured ribbing at the perception of Randle. The "backhanded" part was there to amplify how strongly Ant felt about his current play.


I am not offended at all. I just thought it was pretty savage. As for good natured, remember Ant telling Karl “stop ******* fouling” during the playoffs last year. This reminds me of that.
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Post#207 » by A1FromDay1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 5:45 pm

El Hespiritu wrote:
Brutus will be.

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Fair is fair.


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Post#208 » by Klomp » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:33 am

Say what you want, but Julius has his highest field goal percentage since 2018-19 in New Orleans, his highest 3-point percentage since 2020-21 (and his second-best ever), his highest free throw rate since 2018-19, and his highest career win shares per 48 minutes.
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Post#209 » by frankenwolf » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:31 pm

Klomp wrote:Say what you want, but Julius has his highest field goal percentage since 2018-19 in New Orleans, his highest 3-point percentage since 2020-21 (and his second-best ever), his highest free throw rate since 2018-19, and his highest career win shares per 48 minutes.


Ok, DEFENSE
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Just saying what I want
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Post#210 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:22 pm

frankenwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:Say what you want, but Julius has his highest field goal percentage since 2018-19 in New Orleans, his highest 3-point percentage since 2020-21 (and his second-best ever), his highest free throw rate since 2018-19, and his highest career win shares per 48 minutes.


Ok, DEFENSE
Spoiler:
Just saying what I want


Out of curiosity what defense? I mean a Julius Randle defensive sighting is so rare and elusive I have a better chance of finding Bigfoot… or maybe Atlantis. Just saying, don’t ask Klomp for the impossible ;)
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Post#211 » by frankenwolf » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:25 pm

winforlose wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
Klomp wrote:Say what you want, but Julius has his highest field goal percentage since 2018-19 in New Orleans, his highest 3-point percentage since 2020-21 (and his second-best ever), his highest free throw rate since 2018-19, and his highest career win shares per 48 minutes.


Ok, DEFENSE
Spoiler:
Just saying what I want


Out of curiosity what defense? I mean a Julius Randle defensive sighting is so rare and elusive I have a better chance of finding Bigfoot… or maybe Atlantis. Just saying, don’t ask Klomp for the impossible ;)


He said to say what you want and you & I want the same thing: At least adequate defense from Randle. That is what I want!! :D
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Post#212 » by Klomp » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:01 pm

frankenwolf wrote:
winforlose wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
Ok, DEFENSE
Spoiler:
Just saying what I want


Out of curiosity what defense? I mean a Julius Randle defensive sighting is so rare and elusive I have a better chance of finding Bigfoot… or maybe Atlantis. Just saying, don’t ask Klomp for the impossible ;)


He said to say what you want and you & I want the same thing: At least adequate defense from Randle. That is what I want!! :D

The team was built entirely on defense last year and it got us embarrassed by the Mavs in the WCF

Pivoting to get more offense was not a bad decision.
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Post#213 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 pm

Klomp wrote:
frankenwolf wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Out of curiosity what defense? I mean a Julius Randle defensive sighting is so rare and elusive I have a better chance of finding Bigfoot… or maybe Atlantis. Just saying, don’t ask Klomp for the impossible ;)


He said to say what you want and you & I want the same thing: At least adequate defense from Randle. That is what I want!! :D

The team was built entirely on defense last year and it got us embarrassed by the Mavs in the WCF

Pivoting to get more offense was not a bad decision.


Game 5 against Denver KCP slips and falls into Karl’s surgically repaired knee. Game 6 Ant takes a terrible fall and his offensive numbers fall of cliff from that point forward. Game 7 Jamal Murray has a shot blocked and falls into Karl’s surgically repaired knee. We lost to Dallas because our primary and secondary offensive threats got hurt badly enough to compromise their scoring and we had no offensive system to fall back on. Pivoting to a new offensive scheme or head coach is a better decision.
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Post#214 » by shrink » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:41 pm

I don’t know if Finch has done this behind the scenes, but I really hope someone has sat Randle down, and pointed out how good he has it in MIN:

1. He doesn’t have to be the face of the franchise - Ant does that.
2. MIN media is a lot softer on players than NY media.
3. He plays with a rising star that he seems to like.
4. There is room for an offensively-minded player on this team
5. His defensive lapses are minimized with so many good defending teammates - he just needs to be average and try.
6. He’s on a team which should be in the playoff hunt.
7. He gets to play for a coach that he loves.

He’s in a potential contract year. If he gets with the culture and makes more of an effort, MIN could be a good fit for him.
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Post#215 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:53 pm

shrink wrote:I don’t know if Finch has done this behind the scenes, but I really hope someone has sat Randle down, and pointed out how good he has it in MIN:

1. He doesn’t have to be the face of the franchise - Ant does that.
2. MIN media is a lot softer on players than NY media.
3. He plays with a rising star that he seems to like.
4. There is room for an offensively-minded player on this team
5. His defensive lapses are minimized with so many good defending teammates - he just needs to be average and try.
6. He’s on a team which should be in the playoff hunt.
7. He gets to play for a coach that he loves.

He’s in a potential contract year. If he gets with the culture and makes more of an effort, MIN could be a good fit for him.


There is no way Julius would comprehend any of this. And he is a terrible fit here. The thought of fundamentally changing an immature player at his age is a pretty ridiculous take.
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Post#216 » by minimus » Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:30 pm

shrink wrote:I don’t know if Finch has done this behind the scenes, but I really hope someone has sat Randle down, and pointed out how good he has it in MIN

I don't believe in Randle long term fit in MIN, but I do believe that Julius can put a stretch of like 20 really good games, increase his trade value and everyone life easier. Just like DLo did before TC traded him. DLo played well in defense as roamer a year before, DLo was red hot in December that year.
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Post#217 » by TimberKat » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:17 pm

minimus wrote:I don't believe in Randle long term fit in MIN, but I do believe that Julius can put a stretch of like [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]] really good games, increase his trade value and everyone life easier. Just like DLo did before TC traded him. DLo played well in defense as roamer a year before, DLo was red hot in December that year.

Are we doing the Matrix thing again? Wolves always needed that second shot creator. If we have to keep him, maybe once he is signed the long term contract, he won't be so pressing. Start Naz, have Randle bully the opponent's second unit. He just need to kickout pass a little earlier and a little more often. Trade NAW and resign Naz. DDV will be NAW replacement (I prefer NAW if he signs lower than DDV).
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#218 » by shrink » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:22 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
shrink wrote:I don’t know if Finch has done this behind the scenes, but I really hope someone has sat Randle down, and pointed out how good he has it in MIN:

1. He doesn’t have to be the face of the franchise - Ant does that.
2. MIN media is a lot softer on players than NY media.
3. He plays with a rising star that he seems to like.
4. There is room for an offensively-minded player on this team
5. His defensive lapses are minimized with so many good defending teammates - he just needs to be average and try.
6. He’s on a team which should be in the playoff hunt.
7. He gets to play for a coach that he loves.

He’s in a potential contract year. If he gets with the culture and makes more of an effort, MIN could be a good fit for him.


There is no way Julius would comprehend any of this. And he is a terrible fit here. The thought of fundamentally changing an immature player at his age is a pretty ridiculous take.

I saw Vince Carter go from selfishly forcing a trade at age 28 to becoming one of the most unselfish players in the NBA.

I think posters are over-dramatizing Randle’s issues, and even those that exist, I don’t buy people are beyond hope.
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Post#219 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:36 pm

shrink wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
shrink wrote:I don’t know if Finch has done this behind the scenes, but I really hope someone has sat Randle down, and pointed out how good he has it in MIN:

1. He doesn’t have to be the face of the franchise - Ant does that.
2. MIN media is a lot softer on players than NY media.
3. He plays with a rising star that he seems to like.
4. There is room for an offensively-minded player on this team
5. His defensive lapses are minimized with so many good defending teammates - he just needs to be average and try.
6. He’s on a team which should be in the playoff hunt.
7. He gets to play for a coach that he loves.

He’s in a potential contract year. If he gets with the culture and makes more of an effort, MIN could be a good fit for him.


There is no way Julius would comprehend any of this. And he is a terrible fit here. The thought of fundamentally changing an immature player at his age is a pretty ridiculous take.

I saw Vince Carter go from selfishly forcing a trade at age 28 to becoming one of the most unselfish players in the NBA.

I think posters are over-dramatizing Randle’s issues, and even those that exist, I don’t buy people are beyond hope.


I guess I'm a bit torn, but feeling fans have taken on the mentality that: ok, dude is a bit rough around the edges, has a bit of an ego problem, but he's on the team I follow. Has a good game here and there. I guess I have to somehow accept him.

That's what you'll find diving into old Knick threads.

If the goal is to win a championship, we have to move on from him imo
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Re: The Julius Randle Thread 

Post#220 » by shrink » Sun Dec 15, 2024 7:54 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
shrink wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
There is no way Julius would comprehend any of this. And he is a terrible fit here. The thought of fundamentally changing an immature player at his age is a pretty ridiculous take.

I saw Vince Carter go from selfishly forcing a trade at age 28 to becoming one of the most unselfish players in the NBA.

I think posters are over-dramatizing Randle’s issues, and even those that exist, I don’t buy people are beyond hope.


I guess I'm a bit torn, but feeling fans have taken on the mentality that: ok, dude is a bit rough around the edges, has a bit of an ego problem, but he's on the team I follow. Has a good game here and there. I guess I have to somehow accept him.

That's what you'll find diving into old Knick threads.

I think that’s fair, and why I posted he should be aware how much better his situation is here than with the Knicks,

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