SHAMS BOMB: GSW trading for Dennis Schroder

[QingJames]

People are all for throwing away 2nd round picks unless one single one is used to draft Bronny

I think there is a difference in wasting it on a historically bad NBA rookie that can't even shoot 40% in the G League vs using a couple of them to get a really great role player who is capable of starting, and has been an NBA level starter for many years.

Which “really great roleplayer” did the Warriors acquire?

[whatisacenter]

Another guard? The Warriors must not have much faith in their current guard rotation.

Its a skillset issue rather than a guard depth issue.

What is the pulse on Podziemski, are fans still high on him?

He may be having a sophomore slump or the league may have figured his game out a little.

He can get to the paint but doesn't finish well once he gets there. His right hand sucks.

He doesn't have a jump shot and needs time and room to get his shot off.

He plays hard on defense and takes a lot of charges but is not a great defender.

Likely roll player.

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Do teams around the league not realize Kuminga is complete garbage? Or are the Warriors targeting someone else with Kuminga as the main trade chip and are using this to try to raise his value?

Kuminga > Wagner on talent alone. But performance wise so far Wagner > Kuminga. There are teams who think they will be able to make Kuminga perform as per his talent. Thats why his value is up.

Talent? Kuminga has elite physical tools and attributes. Teams think there's a chance his skills can catch up with his tools. He's hardly the first player to be touted as a highly valued prospect because of his tools and thus his potential and he won't be the last

Sometimes it pans out great, a guy like Jrue Holiday was drafted very raw on that same basis and has it panned out, sometimes you get a bust..

Kuminga has a decent floor as he is already basucally a prime Harruson Barnes level of player

I'd just don't know if i'd charchterize his upside as being tied to his "talent"

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[DeRoma]

I wanted a first. Schroder was playing really well.

But I guess the deal wasnt there. And he was totally ruining the tank.

Cam and DFS next.

Sell me on DFS, I never understood what was so good about him, is he that good of a defender?

He can literally guard 1-5 and is a plus defender. He is also a 40% 3-point shooter this year, the type of player who won't make mistakes and does all the dirty plays. He is a veteran who has made huge plays in big games in the past and you can plug him in 18-24 mpg and he will find a way to contribute. He is essentially that glue who is just a reliable piece that can fit in many scenarios.

[Exp0sed]

The nuggets should have looked into trading for him given how little was given.

Honestly judging by history between Nets and Nuggets I was almost certain he will go to Denver for similiar deal

They already got WB for that backup PG\spot starter role. both players are strictly PG's and not devoid of egos lol

I'd imagine their FO and coach balked at the idea of having these two competing for the same mins. Moreover, Denis would be unlikely to resign in Denver, so it'd be half a season rental basically

Nah..

P.s, i'm not sure the Nuggets have an expiring contract to match, the Dubs had Melton

[QingJames]

Pretty sure everyone knows, but he’s also still very young. I think he could thrive with a certain team down in South Beach, eventually.

Is Kuminga really ''complete garbage''? Sounds very harsh.

No he isn't, I think the Warriors may be overrating his current currency a tad (not a lot btw, just marginally)

“Complete garbage” may be hyperbolic but he’s very bad. He’s an inefficient scorer who needs the ball in his hands to accomplish anything. He’s a bad rebounder and very bad defender which was supposed to be his calling card coming into the league. He’s looking like a massive bust so far. He’s basically a shorter Marvin Bagley except Bagley is probably better than Kuminga right now.

[ArksNetsSince99]

It's funny how these type roleplayers always seem to have a bounce back season in a contract year.

With that said he should help GS. He was good for the Lakers a few years ago. He will never make up for that $70 mil he turned down after his first Laker stint though.

I am not sure if true, but it feels like Dennis was in contract year many times, he is always on short contracts. He obviously can play basketball if you put ball in his hands. I myself do not see GSW as contenders, so to me it is pretty pointless, but thats just my opinion, they obviously believe they can compete.

Maybe it’s just short term or illusion but looks like Dennis finally turn the corner and accepted his role , he needs that to receive some mid contract and security , we had no complaints about him while on the Nets

Saying this Dennis alone doesn’t make GSW a contender , they need some more help , but he is better than anyone they currently have behind Curry

It’s a shame they couldn’t agree on Cam Johnson , I see Cam as similiar role as Klay had , not prime Klay by any means but way better player than current Klay for sure

[mcfly1204]

Is Kuminga really ''complete garbage''? Sounds very harsh.

No he isn't, I think the Warriors may be overrating his current currency a tad (not a lot btw, just marginally)

“Complete garbage” may be hyperbolic but he’s very bad. He’s an inefficient scorer who needs the ball in his hands to accomplish anything. He’s a bad rebounder and very bad defender which was supposed to be his calling card coming into the league. He’s looking like a massive bust so far. He’s basically a shorter Marvin Bagley except Bagley is probably better than Kuminga right now.

I prefer a poor man's Jaylen Brown, minus the defense.

[QingJames]

It's funny how these type roleplayers always seem to have a bounce back season in a contract year.

With that said he should help GS. He was good for the Lakers a few years ago. He will never make up for that $70 mil he turned down after his first Laker stint though.

I am not sure if true, but it feels like Dennis was in contract year many times, he is always on short contracts. He obviously can play basketball if you put ball in his hands. I myself do not see GSW as contenders, so to me it is pretty pointless, but thats just my opinion, they obviously believe they can compete.

Maybe it’s just short term or illusion but looks like Dennis finally turn the corner and accepted his role , he needs that to receive some mid contract and security , we had no complaints about him while on the Nets

Saying this Dennis alone doesn’t make GSW a contender , they need some more help , but he is better than anyone they currently have behind Curry

It’s a shame they couldn’t agree on Cam Johnson , I see Cam as similiar role as Klay had , not prime Klay by any means but way better player than current Klay for sure

His role on the Nets was to start and jack up 14 shots per game. No wonder he was happy with that. Quite literally one year before we signed him to “play a role” and had to dump his 1 year contract halfway through the season because he was such a locker room malcontent after being asked to come off the bench.

[Onlytimewilltel]

Who said that??

Nobody, this dude just wants to be provocative. Dennis is an expiring contract it was always going to be hard for him to yield a first unless it was heavily protected and more likely than not to become seconds...

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Have fun reading your fellow mentally challenged friends making bold and delusional claims.

Provocative my ass

Damn. That certainly was an embarrassing thread

[ConSarnit]

I am not sure if true, but it feels like Dennis was in contract year many times, he is always on short contracts. He obviously can play basketball if you put ball in his hands. I myself do not see GSW as contenders, so to me it is pretty pointless, but thats just my opinion, they obviously believe they can compete.

Maybe it’s just short term or illusion but looks like Dennis finally turn the corner and accepted his role , he needs that to receive some mid contract and security , we had no complaints about him while on the Nets

Saying this Dennis alone doesn’t make GSW a contender , they need some more help , but he is better than anyone they currently have behind Curry

It’s a shame they couldn’t agree on Cam Johnson , I see Cam as similiar role as Klay had , not prime Klay by any means but way better player than current Klay for sure

His role on the Nets was to start and jack up 14 shots per game. No wonder he was happy with that. Quite literally one year before we signed him to “play a role” and had to dump his 1 year contract halfway through the season because he was such a locker room malcontent after being asked to come off the bench.

There are rumors the same thing happened when the Raptors got Quickey (Dennis being unhappy in his bench role). For whatever reason the guy gets dumped from multiple teams for nothing or has never been able to secure a sizeable contract even though he produces well enough on the floor.

Good on the Nets for selling high. The people who thought he could have gotten a 1st if the Nets waited are crazy. His value would have declined the longer they held onto him. He started out hot last year too and he always reverts back to who he always is: questionable shooting pg who can’t run a productive offense (he gets assists as a function of having the ball). He’s already starting to regress in his shooting as he’s shot 43/33 over the past 12 games. His ideal role is scoring bench pg who can somewhat float your offense for a few minutes.

Schroder will be fine for GSW for the price they paid but he’s won’t be able to keep up his efficiency and his actual playmaking is fools gold. My bet is he ends up coming off the bench before seasons end.

[Bobbymcgee]

Golden State still trying to trade for an elite player by trying to dump Wiggins lol.

[marthafokker]

Golden State still trying to trade for an elite player by trying to dump Wiggins lol.

GSW doesn't want to trade Wiggins. Has no choice if they want to get a star.

Wiggins' contract is good with so many overpaid NBA players now. The only 2 bad contracts GSW have now are PG2 and Moody... unless you count Dray and Curry. Guess management got out of CP3 and Klay's nightmare contract that they don't really have much to dump.

[floppymoose]

Hopefully other GMs think JK is a bust. I’d like for GS to keep him on a bargain deal.

[TrueFan420]

[GSWCBA] Warriors inherited his early bird rights as a result of the trade and could re-sign Schröder this offseason up to 175% of his previous salary ($22,794,188) on a 2-4 year deal with 8% raises.

Even better

[TrueFan420]

Golden State still trying to trade for an elite player by trying to dump Wiggins lol.

GSW doesn't want to trade Wiggins. Has no choice if they want to get a star.

Wiggins' contract is good with so many overpaid NBA players now. The only 2 bad contracts GSW have now are PG2 and Moody... unless you count Dray and Curry. Guess management got out of CP3 and Klay's nightmare contract that they don't really have much to dump.

Is GP2 a bad contract? It’s an expiring 9m. It’s actually fairly useful for a trade.

Moody in 12ish per for 3 more years after this year isn’t terrible but it is perplexing when Kerr refuses to give him a consistent role.

[marthafokker]

Golden State still trying to trade for an elite player by trying to dump Wiggins lol.

GSW doesn't want to trade Wiggins. Has no choice if they want to get a star.

Wiggins' contract is good with so many overpaid NBA players now. The only 2 bad contracts GSW have now are PG2 and Moody... unless you count Dray and Curry. Guess management got out of CP3 and Klay's nightmare contract that they don't really have much to dump.

Is GP2 a bad contract? It’s an expiring 9m. It’s actually fairly useful for a trade.

Moody in 12ish per for 3 more years after this year isn’t terrible but it is perplexing when Kerr refuses to give him a consistent role.

Like I said, GSW doesn't have a bad contract. GP2 and Moody are as close to bad contract you can point to.

GP2 is nice to have as a 12th man, but he is 6th man under Kerr.

Moody has been bad so far. He comes in and doesn't do much. His box score says it looks good. But he gets his stats after the game is basically over. Can't blame Kerr on this. I have issue with Kerr on Moody is.... Kerr subs out Moody when Moody is red hot. Now, that is stupid. Dang, Kerr subs out Curry too when he was red hot. I still remembered early last season even CP3 was confused why Curry was subbed out in 1st q with Curry going crazy.

[Lunartic]

Why don't they sign an actual good NBA player?

Is that how it works?

Clearly not

[Karate Diop]

Nobody, this dude just wants to be provocative. Dennis is an expiring contract it was always going to be hard for him to yield a first unless it was heavily protected and more likely than not to become seconds...

viewtopic.php?p=115760098#p115760098

Have fun reading your fellow mentally challenged friends making bold and delusional claims.

Provocative my ass

Damn. That certainly was an embarrassing thread

Seriously, Golden State fans thinking Kuminga will net them a superstar is comical. The league knows Golden State is reluctant to pay Kuminga a huge deal, and he's going to be a RFA, so he's no longer a cheap cost controlled contract. They missed their chance to maximize his trade value - Golden State likely keeps him through the deadline and pretend like they wanted him all along now

[Onlytimewilltel]

viewtopic.php?p=115760098#p115760098

Have fun reading your fellow mentally challenged friends making bold and delusional claims.

Provocative my ass

Damn. That certainly was an embarrassing thread

Seriously, Golden State fans thinking Kuminga will net them a superstar is comical. The league knows Golden State is reluctant to pay Kuminga a huge deal, and he's going to be a RFA, so he's no longer a cheap cost controlled contract. They missed their chance to maximize his trade value - Golden State likely keeps him through the deadline and pretend like they wanted him all along now

That’s all true. You know what else is comical. Nets fans thinking they will get a 1st rounder and Kuminga for Schroeder instead of three second rounders and an injured player

Delusion on all sides