Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 (i.e. How do we make the Champs even better?)

[Celts17Pride]

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[Parliament10]

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Wow. 3 x 2nd Rounders, huh?

[Celts17Pride]

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Wow. 3 x 2nd Rounders, huh?

Schroder is a great player on bad teams, good teams not so much

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

Warriors do you want Luke Kornet for free?

[redslastlaugh]

Nets front office seems to be acting more smartly of late, since the original Harden acquisition. They had to trade KD, Irving, Harden etc… but they did pretty well considering their circumstance. Moving Durant, Kyrie, Bridges, for 11 future 1sts and now flipping Schroder into future value, is pretty nice GMing. I think BRK is second to OKC as regards the future pick cabinet.

[Fierce1]

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I think we should sign him.

Naw. He'd only get buried on the Bench, behind Tillman.

True.

Cs don't need another big.

[snowman]

I really think we need a bigger athletic PG to work with Pritchard on the second team. I think Brad is saving the 15th roster spot to save some salary, an injury fill in or if someone that he really likes gets waved that we can scoop up that played on a minimum contract. (Thanks CBA) Or he could make a move using Springers contract for a minimum salary player.

Springer was supposed to be this, but that doesn't seem to have worked out at this point. His defense is good, but unless he makes a steal and takes it to the open rim, he has no offense.
Davison kills it in the G-League, but after three years he has yet to show anything when called up to the big club. I just don't think he is NBA material, but maybe Brad can figure out a way to sign him and the trade him to get something back.


I have high hopes for our three young wings behind Hauser, so I don't think we need anything ther and I would not move any of the threeat this point. Walsh, Scheierman and Peterson are the wing backups behind Hauser, but none are really athletic. I don't see any of the three being that Tatum/Brown lite in driving the hoop. All three are doing really good in the G-League, but I hope they can transfer their play to the big club. Walsh and Scheierman are on their rookie contracts and Petterson just signed his first 2-way so we have time for all three to be groomed so I think we are good at the wing.

Walsh is still working on his shot, but he is avg 20 PG, and 50% three-point shooting in the G-League. His defense is good, and he is still just 20 years old, so he has time to be a steal. Gettig minutes with the big club is huge for him.

Scheierman could be special if/when he gets used to the speed of the NBA. His shot seems to be falling 19.5 pg avg, shooting 35% from three in the G-league and is rebounding really good. He just seems to be overwhelmed when called up to the big club.

Peterson is just on a 2-way contract, but I really like his game and is a really good shooter, has the size of Tatum on paper, but needs to bulk up to be truly effective in the NBA. He is avg 16 points, 37% from three, 7.4 rebs and 5.6 asts in the G-League. in his first year. I think he is a keeper.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

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Wow. 3 x 2nd Rounders, huh?

Schroder is a great player on bad teams, good teams not so much

Look up 2014/2015 Atlanta Hawks, 2019/2020 OKC Thunder or 2023 FIBA World Cup (actually any time he suits up for Germany).

[ConstableGeneva]

Thomas Bryant to Pacers.
Dennis Schroder to Warriors.
Paul Reed waived by Pistons.

And Jaden Springer is still a Celtic while Lonnie Walker is still a Zalgiris?

[ConstableGeneva]

KQX are all trade-eligible starting today. Kornet can veto a trade by virtue of re-signing on a one-year deal while having Bird Rights. He'll be non-Bird end of season for his new team if he agrees to the trade.

[Celts17Pride]

Saw a trade idea somewhere, Springer and a 2nd round pick to Miami for Kevin Love. I love that idea but it will never happen.

Two issues, what do you do with Tillman? Love makes $4.1 million guaranteed next year. Love’s salary next year probably too high for the Celtics

[165bows]

Saw a trade idea somewhere, Springer and a 2nd round pick to Miami for Kevin Love. I love that idea but it will never happen.

Two issues, what do you do with Tillman? Love makes $4.1 million guaranteed next year. Love’s salary next year probably too high for the Celtics

If they are really smoked for the year then maybe just send him back for Yabs, maybe that deal isn’t dead yet. Especially if Tillman is going to continue to be MIA.

[Parliament10]

I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for this.:

But, Celtics bite the bullet, and Horford takes one for Team, at the Deadline.
For 3 x 2nds. (Or, 2 x 2nds and a 2nd Round Swap.)

Al would still get a ring. He'd likely retire after that year, if not being on the Celtics.
(Not certain if we could pick him up, as a FA in 2025-26?.)

Celtics would be under the 2nd Apron, by $1,856,009.
We could then go and get Lonnie Walker, as the 14th Player.

Edit:
We could also send out the Draft Rights to Begarin & Madar, if it helps.

[Fierce1]

I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for this.:

But, Celtics bite the bullet, and Horford takes one for Team, at the Deadline.
For 3 x 2nds. (Or, 2 x 2nds and a 2nd Round Swap.)

Al would still get a ring. He'd likely retire after that year, if not being on the Celtics.
(Not certain if we could pick him up, as a FA in 2025-26?.)

Celtics would be under the 2nd Apron, by $1,856,009.
We could then go and get Lonnie Walker, as the 14th Player.

Yeah, a lot of Cs fans will not agree to that.

We still need Al for Giannis or Jokic this season.

Besides, it's really not this season where the tax hurts a lot.

And the biggest impact will be in the locker room.

The players will not be happy if the Cs trade Al.

[Parliament10]

I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for this.:

But, Celtics bite the bullet, and Horford takes one for Team, at the Deadline.
For 3 x 2nds. (Or, 2 x 2nds and a 2nd Round Swap.)

Al would still get a ring. He'd likely retire after that year, if not being on the Celtics.
(Not certain if we could pick him up, as a FA in 2025-26?.)

Celtics would be under the 2nd Apron, by $1,856,009.
We could then go and get Lonnie Walker, as the 14th Player.

Yeah, a lot of Cs fans will not agree to that.

We still need Al for Giannis or Jokic this season.

Besides, it's really not this season where the tax hurts a lot.

And the biggest impact will be in the locker room.

The players will not be happy if the Cs trade Al.

Yeah. This would definitely be a tough call.
We could still Trade Springer, as well, for a little wiggle room. And probably bring up Peterson, to fill the spot.

[Fierce1]

I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for this.:

But, Celtics bite the bullet, and Horford takes one for Team, at the Deadline.
For 3 x 2nds. (Or, 2 x 2nds and a 2nd Round Swap.)

Al would still get a ring. He'd likely retire after that year, if not being on the Celtics.
(Not certain if we could pick him up, as a FA in 2025-26?.)

Celtics would be under the 2nd Apron, by $1,856,009.
We could then go and get Lonnie Walker, as the 14th Player.

Yeah, a lot of Cs fans will not agree to that.

We still need Al for Giannis or Jokic this season.

Besides, it's really not this season where the tax hurts a lot.

And the biggest impact will be in the locker room.

The players will not be happy if the Cs trade Al.

Yeah. This would definitely be a tough call.
We could still Trade Springer, as well, for a little wiggle room. And probably bring up Peterson, to fill the spot.

Yes, it's inevitable Spring gets traded.

It's just a little too expensive keeping him around.

And Peterson filling the spot is a good move.

I still prefer Lonnie Walker, but Peterson is good enough.

[Dogen]

Yeah, a lot of Cs fans will not agree to that.

We still need Al for Giannis or Jokic this season.

Besides, it's really not this season where the tax hurts a lot.

And the biggest impact will be in the locker room.

The players will not be happy if the Cs trade Al.

Yeah. This would definitely be a tough call.
We could still Trade Springer, as well, for a little wiggle room. And probably bring up Peterson, to fill the spot.

Yes, it's inevitable Spring gets traded.

It's just a little too expensive keeping him around.

And Peterson filling the spot is a good move.

I still prefer Lonnie Walker, but Peterson is good enough.

Trading Al for some 2nds would likely do more harm than good if only by virtue of messing with the team chemistry. Al's family at the games, relationships with other players, his stabilizing vet presence and ability to have occasional throw back games, etc, are all factors. I think he has enough left in the tank for limited minutes in a playoff run. Ideally he gets another ring and can ride off into the sunset.

For Springer, so far it seems it is more expensive to trade him than to keep him. Brad didn't want to give up a first to move him. Unfortunately, he's not getting enough PT to showcase him as an asset, so my guess is he sticks around until the deadline when teams are forced to play their trade hand. Or maybe he sticks for the year. He's overpaid for his contribution, of course, but the contract is not an albatross. He'll have a year with the team soon, and things can change quickly with an injury. 4M seems like a lot, but a guy can really earn his keep with a few well-placed playoff minutes.

So trading Springer is likely -- preferable? -- but I don't think inevitable.

[31to6]

Parl, I'm hurt that you would suggest trading Al for 3 2nds
He is incredibly valuable
And I guess underrated
I think he has a lot more winning to do in Boston -- not just this year, but who knows how far beyond?

[shi-woo]

Trading Al for 2nd round picks in what is likely his last year is sacrilegious and worse than the IT debacle. Al is the one who took the chance and put this team on the map, and created the culture that just won us a ring. He's been the OG day one, and bringing him back was the first move Brad did as GM. There is no way you are getting equivalent value back for Al, on or off the court, that dude is as untouchable as they come if we're being honest.

If they are looking to sweeten deals, there are other ways to do it. If they are looking for more guard help, there are players out there.

Dalano Banton is only making 2mil, and having a solid year. We gave him some burn a few years ago, maybe now would be a decent time to bring him back. His shot has been falling, and when given minutes he's proven to be able to score and disrupt shots.

Talen Horton Tucker on the bulls is a solid vet, still young at only 24 (thought bro was atleast 26 by now), and has proven to be able to play big minutes at the 1-4 spots. Has some championship experience, atleast being around that atmosphere. Honestly the dudes been balling lately and has been a proven dbl diget scorer his entire career, so I don't think Springer and some 2nds will get it done, but i'd certainly kick the tires. He's a much better player than Lonnie Walker, and yall loved that dude.

Shake Milton is a proven scorer on the Nets that is making nothing. That is certainly a player we could get for a 2nd round pick

Jose Alvarado and old friend Javonte Green on the Pels who are now dead in the water would be solid gets too.

Celtics have options, but realistically I think trading Springer for a 2nd that doesn't convey to save money is what we all should expect. Man getting Horton Tucker would be sweet though

[Hal14]

I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for this.:

But, Celtics bite the bullet, and Horford takes one for Team, at the Deadline.
For 3 x 2nds. (Or, 2 x 2nds and a 2nd Round Swap.)

Al would still get a ring. He'd likely retire after that year, if not being on the Celtics.
(Not certain if we could pick him up, as a FA in 2025-26?.)

Celtics would be under the 2nd Apron, by $1,856,009.
We could then go and get Lonnie Walker, as the 14th Player.

Edit:
We could also send out the Draft Rights to Begarin & Madar, if it helps.

So we're making our team way worse, significantly decreasing our title chances, just to pick up some 2nd round picks and get under the 2nd apron?

No thanks

I'd also add that for reasons I mentioned the other day in the Lonnie walker thread, even if we offered Walker a contract, we should not just assume he would sign it. Chances are, he's staying overseas for awhile - possibly the rest of his career. Walker may not even be the C's first choice in terms of who they would sign to fill the 14th roster spot, even if a trade like this is made to free up a roster spot. But whoever it is we'd sign, it's pretty much a guarantee that player would bring much less to the table than Al.