How many titles will OKC win until 2030?

[Deivork]

Good post Lo Wang.

Up to now, 1/3 of the people voted 0. So yeah, I'm gonna call that lazy or trolling. I've yet to hear a good argument against their case in the thread.

[Lalouie]

if this is parity, then there will be 4 or 5 teams that will win up to 2030

so 1 at most

if some people answer more than two then they believe there is NO parity

[Lo Wang]

You guys aren't even factoring the amount of assets this team have.

If they do not win 1, they can get another star.

The possibility of a ring is very high. The only argument against this is the wait and see approach, which isn't really an argument.

[cgf]

It helps that the west is so mid right now, so their path to the final isn't as tough as it would be if they were in the east. Their lack of size is a concern...we saw Joel just pushing iHart around last spring...as is their lack of non-SGA or Jdub creation, but they put great pressure on the perimeter and that's a ton of shooting around those two.

[brackdan70]

Maybe first let’s see if they can get deep in the playoffs. They haven’t even been to a conference final.

[shi-woo]

I think this team wins one, and that's it. Anything more than that is just wishful thinking. The first OKC team was suppossed to dynasty with KD, Westbrook, Harden, Ibala and Green. That ended up being a sad what if in the history of the league, and a reminder just how hard all of this is.

I think 1 just because they already have their main piece, and they have the draft capital to continue to make moves to contend and have a clean roster with healthy contracts and talent. Similar to the Celtics, they can bring anyone they want in, trade anyone they want out, and just continue to find the formula that works for them.

This is by far their best shot, and if they don't win it this year it gets a lot harder. Chet's health is looking like a roll of the dice season to season, which is okay when he's getting MLE money, but he's going to be signing for the big bucks next year, and have 40-50 mil riding pine is a little harder to manage than a rookie contract.

Likewise they are fighting with the 3 other best players in the league, and all are on decent organizations too. Every year they are going to have to contend with Jokic and Luka, and starting next year the Spurs and Wemby are going to start to turn heads. I believe Wemby is the surest thing we've seen since LeBron, and it's just a matter of time before he starts to take over. 2025/6 is the year we start to see it with a more suped up roster.

Competition is going to be crazy at the top of the West for the next 5 years, and OKC will be guaranteed nothing.

I do think they win it this year or next year though, hoping next for obvious Celtic reason, but this is the year. They have the depth to make up for Chet being hurt as IHard is arguably a better player right now and is going to have a big impact in the postseason. Caruso is still able to play high level D as this gens Kirk Hinerich, but eventually his D will slide, and he's already losing is offense. Guys like Joe are going to get traded or want bigger roles.

I think it's OKC v BOS in the finals this year and which ever team is healthy and has their unicorn wins. After that it gets progressively harder for OKC unless they use their picks to bring in another serious talent to help their big 3

[Lo Wang]

It helps that the west is so mid right now, so their path to the final isn't as tough as it would be if they were in the east. Their lack of size is a concern...we saw Joel just pushing iHart around last spring...as is their lack of non-SGA or Jdub creation, but they put great pressure on the perimeter and that's a ton of shooting around those two.

This is disinformation, no offense.

The West is dominating the East. Fact.

I have facts (stats) to back this up: 13 of the top 20 teams are in the West. Sure the Cavs and Celts have the best record, but that doesn't mean they are the better team than the Thunder.

If the Thunder played in the East, they would have a 23-1 record based on the math. They have not lost to a lottery team, so the calculation comes out to a 90% win%.

Based on this calculation, the only teams that can beat the Thunder are the Cavs and Celtics (healthy) and Knicks and Magic (unhealthy and missing Chet or Hart).

The Thunder would literally destroy the East.

I'm using the most accurate scientific process (eye test) to make this prediction: I've watched every single Thunder game.

They are bar none the best team in the league.

This is a historic team. Think peak GS, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, etc.

This team is as good as any of them.

Bookmark this thread. If I'm wrong, you guys can have a field day making me look stupid the next 10 years.

I'm that confident. They are that good.

[cgf]

It helps that the west is so mid right now, so their path to the final isn't as tough as it would be if they were in the east. Their lack of size is a concern...we saw Joel just pushing iHart around last spring...as is their lack of non-SGA or Jdub creation, but they put great pressure on the perimeter and that's a ton of shooting around those two.

This is disinformation, no offense.

The West is dominating the East. Fact.

I have facts (stats) to back this up. 13 of the top 20 teams are in the West. Sure the Cavs and Celts have the best record, but that doesn't mean they are the better team than the Thunder.

If the Thunder played in the East, they would have a 23-1 record based on the math. They have not lost to a lottery team, so the calculation comes out to a 90% win %.

Based on this calculation, the only teams that can beat the Thunder are the Cavs and Celtics (healthy) and Knicks and Magic (unhealthy and missing Chet or Hart).

The Thunder would literally destroy the East.

I'm using the most accurate scientific process (eye test) to make this prediction: I've watched every single Thunder game.

They are bar none the best team in the league.

This is a historic team. Think peak GS, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, etc.

This team is as good as any of them.

Bookmark this thread. If I'm wrong, you guys can have a field day making me look stupid the next 10 years.

I'm that confident. They are that good.

I was going to tell you to spare me the hyperbole and that this place was better when you engaged with people in good faith instead of just looking for opportunities to rant...but the bolded was just too funny; so carry on as you were


Anyways, the west definitely has more midlevel teams battling for playoff spots than the east does. But being in contention for a playoff spot is different from being a title contender.

In the east, I could see Boston losing to New York, Cleveland, or Orlando if everyone was healthy. In the west, who's a threat to Boston even if injuries were turned off other than OKC & Dallas? Minnesota if they click and shoot well? Denver if they can find a rotation guy, or three?

The top of the west just isn't very strong right now other than OKC

[Lo Wang]

It helps that the west is so mid right now, so their path to the final isn't as tough as it would be if they were in the east. Their lack of size is a concern...we saw Joel just pushing iHart around last spring...as is their lack of non-SGA or Jdub creation, but they put great pressure on the perimeter and that's a ton of shooting around those two.

This is disinformation, no offense.

The West is dominating the East. Fact.

I have facts (stats) to back this up. 13 of the top 20 teams are in the West. Sure the Cavs and Celts have the best record, but that doesn't mean they are the better team than the Thunder.

If the Thunder played in the East, they would have a 23-1 record based on the math. They have not lost to a lottery team, so the calculation comes out to a 90% win %.

Based on this calculation, the only teams that can beat the Thunder are the Cavs and Celtics (healthy) and Knicks and Magic (unhealthy and missing Chet or Hart).

The Thunder would literally destroy the East.

I'm using the most accurate scientific process (eye test) to make this prediction: I've watched every single Thunder game.

They are bar none the best team in the league.

This is a historic team. Think peak GS, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, etc.

This team is as good as any of them.

Bookmark this thread. If I'm wrong, you guys can have a field day making me look stupid the next 10 years.

I'm that confident. They are that good.

I was going to tell you to spare me the hyperbole and that this place was better when you engaged with people in good faith instead of just looking for opportunities to rant...but the bolded was just too funny; so carry on as you were


Anyways, the west definitely has more midlevel teams battling for playoff spots than the east does. But being in contention for a playoff spot is different from being a title contender. In the east, I could see Boston losing to New York, Cleveland, or Orlando if everyone was healthy. In the west, who's a threat to Boston even if injuries were turned off, other than OKC & Dallas?

C'mon bro.

The East only have the Celts and Cavs as a serious threat to the Thunder.

Do you really think an injured Magic and Knicks can even win a game? Sure I can see the Knicks winning 1 on a lucky-out-of-this-world shot by Brunson to win by 1, but if you watch and study the Thunder, both of those teams have absolutely no chance beating them in a 7 game series.

The Thunder are winning 95% of their games with either Chet or Hart is in the lineup.

What does this tell you?

They are unbeatable when their biggest weakness (rebounding) is covered.

You guys aren't even factoring when Chet comes back.

He is coming back this year despite the disinformation being perpetuated in this forum.

[cgf]

This is disinformation, no offense.

The West is dominating the East. Fact.

I have facts (stats) to back this up. 13 of the top 20 teams are in the West. Sure the Cavs and Celts have the best record, but that doesn't mean they are the better team than the Thunder.

If the Thunder played in the East, they would have a 23-1 record based on the math. They have not lost to a lottery team, so the calculation comes out to a 90% win %.

Based on this calculation, the only teams that can beat the Thunder are the Cavs and Celtics (healthy) and Knicks and Magic (unhealthy and missing Chet or Hart).

The Thunder would literally destroy the East.

I'm using the most accurate scientific process (eye test) to make this prediction: I've watched every single Thunder game.

They are bar none the best team in the league.

This is a historic team. Think peak GS, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Lakers, Spurs, etc.

This team is as good as any of them.

Bookmark this thread. If I'm wrong, you guys can have a field day making me look stupid the next 10 years.

I'm that confident. They are that good.

I was going to tell you to spare me the hyperbole and that this place was better when you engaged with people in good faith instead of just looking for opportunities to rant...but the bolded was just too funny; so carry on as you were


Anyways, the west definitely has more midlevel teams battling for playoff spots than the east does. But being in contention for a playoff spot is different from being a title contender.

In the east, I could see Boston losing to New York, Cleveland, or Orlando if everyone was healthy. In the west, who's a threat to Boston even if injuries were turned off other than OKC & Dallas? Minnesota if they click and shoot well? Denver if they can find a rotation guy, or three?

The top of the west just isn't very strong right now other than OKC

C'mon bro.

The East only have the Celts and Cavs as a serious threat to the Thunder.

Do you really think an injured Magic and Knicks can even win a game? Sure I can see the Knicks winning 1 on a lucky-out-of-this-world shot by Brunson to win by 1, but if you watch and study the Thunder, both of those teams have absolutely no chance beating them in a 7 game.

The Thunder are winning 95% of their games with either Chet or Hart is in the lineup.

What does this tell you?

They are unbeatable when their biggest weakness (rebounding) is covered.

You guys aren't even factoring when Chet comes back.

He is coming back this year despite the disinformation being perpetuated in this forum.

Again, this place is better when you respond to what people actually write.

In the east, I could see Boston losing to New York, Cleveland, or Orlando if everyone was healthy. In the west, who's a threat to Boston even if injuries were turned off, other than OKC & Dallas?

[Mr. Perfect]

The assertion that they are among the best teams in league history is ridiculous, season is only a quarter of the way through and I can probably list at least 5 teams in the last 10 years alone that I would take in a playoff series over a healthy OKC team of this year.

As for the 2030 timeline, I'm giving them the next 3 years. Chet and J-Dub are due for extensions in 2 years, and then SGA's contract expires in 2027. I do believe there is a good chance SGA leaves that summer to go home which would effectively end their contention status, unless of course Presti finds another big talent or 2 in the next couple drafts then that becomes interesting.

[toooskies]

I would just say that while OKC might be on pace to be one of the best teams in terms of net rating and whatever, there have been a lot of teams to play a quarter of a season at that rate and then fall off. Minnesota did it early last year I believe, and Boston kept it up for over half the season before preparing for the playoffs. It's better to be hot late than hot early.

[druggas]

Heard all this before. Injuries and luck are, and have always been the norm. I've seen some pretty talented teams that have never won the championship. Portland and Sacramento come to mind and they were the most talented teams. So when people say that the Thunder will win a championship, some of us will just wait and see. Nothing is guaranteed.

[wegotthabeet]

Pump the brakes. Let them win one first.

this.

I feel like if you made a similar thread in 2012 people would have thought > 3.

Who knows who will even be in OKC in 2030.

[wegotthabeet]

None. Celtics got the next 5 or 6 in a row

They might win 1 more this decade, not more.

[slick_watts]

The assertion that they are among the best teams in league history is ridiculous, season is only a quarter of the way through and I can probably list at least 5 teams in the last 10 years alone that I would take in a playoff series over a healthy OKC team of this year.

As for the 2030 timeline, I'm giving them the next 3 years. Chet and J-Dub are due for extensions in 2 years, and then SGA's contract expires in 2027. I do believe there is a good chance SGA leaves that summer to go home which would effectively end their contention status, unless of course Presti finds another big talent or 2 in the next couple drafts then that becomes interesting.

chet and jdub will both sign max rookie extensions this summer. shai will be eligible for a super max extension this summer. if he does not sign that, the thunder will trade him. there is 0% chance that shai will hit unrestricted free agency in 2027 while a member of the thunder.

[Kiss of Death]

If SGA, Chet & JDub are all signing max/supermax extensions this summer, then it's probably 0 (unless they win this season).
They won't be able to make trades or have any salary cap room to sign FAs.
Those protected picks that they own do not have much value to other teams.
They will likely lose players like Dort & Hartenstein and will have to build around their 'Big 3' with minimum contracts.
Whether it happens this summer or not, when they re-sign those 3, they are locked in to those 3 and have no way to add to them.

[Deivork]

For all the people who say "it's too early who knows", well yeah. The thread is about daring to speculate. And to call the Thunder a hot streak team...

[Special_Puppy]

2 would be amazing

[LeBronSpaghetti]

You guys aren't even factoring the amount of assets this team have.

If they do not win 1, they can get another star.

The possibility of a ring is very high. The only argument against this is the wait and see approach, which isn't really an argument.

People on this site seem to think that the realistic path forward for the Thunder is:

1. Trade their 45 first round picks for 15 superstars
2. Pay them $5 billion a year
3. Be in the 10th salary apron
4. Win every title in the rest of the NBA’s existence