What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez?

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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#21 » by BBallFreak » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:17 am

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Weren't Heat fans saying this guy was untouchable about 6 months ago despite being a 23 year old rookie?

Despite? As though the ripe old age of 23 is problematic?

Yeah, JJJ is pretty much untouchable. He'd need to be part of a bigger package returning a new all-star caliber player. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look around to see if that's possible. I think even OP would be very content to keep him, not figuring out of we can get something we need more pants vanity, it's practicality.


23 is pretty old for a rookie. Nice player, but his upside is fairly limited.

I used to hear the same thing about Dwayne Wade. Not saying he's Wade, but don't tell me a rookie has limited upside. That's really short sighted.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#22 » by VaDe255 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:25 am

BBallFreak wrote:
wegotthabeet wrote:Is this a vanity thread?

Weren't Heat fans saying this guy was untouchable about 6 months ago despite being a 23 year old rookie?

Despite? As though the ripe old age of 23 is problematic?

Yeah, JJJ is pretty much untouchable. He'd need to be part of a bigger package returning a new all-star caliber player. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look around to see if that's possible. I think even OP would be very content to keep him, not figuring out of we can get something we need more pants vanity, it's practicality.


I understand that some fans value JJ’s potential and prioritize tomorrow, but I’d personally rather see the Heat maximize their chances of winning this year; especially since this might be the best shot they’ll have for a while. The Heat are potentially playing for the 3rd seed.

It is difficult to play him with their best players, because he can't make those corner 3s, which he is/was regulary getting. I'd rather see someone who can be on the court with Jimmy/Bam/Tyler at the same time, a 3&D wing of some sort.

The main issue with JJ remains his inconsistent jump shot. Last year, I was hopeful he’d develop more consistency from 3, but unfortunately, that hasn’t materialized yet. To take the next step he really needs to develop a reliable jump shot to add more counters and options to his game. Right now, he’s relying too much on trying to play the old-man game and bully people in the paint, which only gets him so far.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#23 » by wegotthabeet » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:50 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:Despite? As though the ripe old age of 23 is problematic?

Yeah, JJJ is pretty much untouchable. He'd need to be part of a bigger package returning a new all-star caliber player. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look around to see if that's possible. I think even OP would be very content to keep him, not figuring out of we can get something we need more pants vanity, it's practicality.


23 is pretty old for a rookie. Nice player, but his upside is fairly limited.

I used to hear the same thing about Dwayne Wade. Not saying he's Wade, but don't tell me a rookie has limited upside. That's really short sighted.


Wade was a top 5 pick in the draft with the best top 5 ever. He also peaked at 24.

JJJ is like a solid rotation guy on a championship caliber team. I could see him making 1 or 2 all-star games if he hit his full potential. Wade was already a superstar at his current age.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#24 » by BBallFreak » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:27 pm

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23 is pretty old for a rookie. Nice player, but his upside is fairly limited.

I used to hear the same thing about Dwayne Wade. Not saying he's Wade, but don't tell me a rookie has limited upside. That's really short sighted.


Wade was a top 5 pick in the draft with the best top 5 ever. He also peaked at 24.

JJJ is like a solid rotation guy on a championship caliber team. I could see him making 1 or 2 all-star games if he hit his full potential. Wade was already a superstar at his current age.

That has more to do with his upside rather than his age, though. We've had plenty of players come into the league at 22 or 23 and break out.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#25 » by Myth » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:03 pm

Pattycakes wrote:Portland says “hello again old friend”.

But really, we would def be interested in JJ


I don't see it. Blazers have Deni and Camara. I get going after clear bench players, or clear upgrades, but Jaime is more of a high end bench player that you may hope develops into a permanent starting forward, but the Blazers won't have the minutes for him if he earns them. And that is before we consider Jerami Grant is still on the team. I would be willing to land Jaime, and even more so if the Heat wanted Grant, but I just don't see Jaime being a target as Portland doesn't need him enough to give value for him, and Heat therefore wouldn't give him up for a lowball offer.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#26 » by LightTheBeam » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:19 pm

Can someone fill me in on what's happening this year? Haven't watched much Miami. Last year he was super exciting. Less opportunity?

I'd love him in Sac based on what I saw last year. Not sure what we really could offer. I'd give Devin Carter or a protected 1st?
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#27 » by ConSarnit » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:52 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
wegotthabeet wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Despite? As though the ripe old age of 23 is problematic?

Yeah, JJJ is pretty much untouchable. He'd need to be part of a bigger package returning a new all-star caliber player. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look around to see if that's possible. I think even OP would be very content to keep him, not figuring out of we can get something we need more pants vanity, it's practicality.


23 is pretty old for a rookie. Nice player, but his upside is fairly limited.

I used to hear the same thing about Dwayne Wade. Not saying he's Wade, but don't tell me a rookie has limited upside. That's really short sighted.


Who was telling you that? Wade turned 23 in his 2nd season and was averaging 24/7/5 before he even turned 23 in Jan 2005. Wade made the all-star team and all-nba as a 23 year old.

What exactly is JJJ good at that makes him a high upside player?
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#28 » by BBallFreak » Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:05 pm

ConSarnit wrote:
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23 is pretty old for a rookie. Nice player, but his upside is fairly limited.

I used to hear the same thing about Dwayne Wade. Not saying he's Wade, but don't tell me a rookie has limited upside. That's really short sighted.


Who was telling you that? Wade turned 23 in his 2nd season and was averaging 24/7/5 before he even turned 23 in Jan 2005. Wade made the all-star team and all-nba as a 23 year old.

What exactly is JJJ good at that makes him a high upside player?

Were you here, then? I was. I heard that, because he was old, he'd never be better than Jamal Crawford. I heard that Bosh, Darko, Melo, and LeBron all had much higher ceilings than Wade. Please don't lecture me on what I was here to witness.

I'm not saying JJJ has that kind of potential, I'm saying his age isn't what limits his potential
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#29 » by Ell Curry » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:06 am

Utah seems like the best fit on the court, but I have no idea what the Heat are doing.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#30 » by SkyHook » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:33 pm

The Heat are much better off keeping him. I think he's just going through a sophomore shooting slump and will likely bounce back to near his rookie levels, but I imagine that more than a few FOs will view that as diminished value. Adding Terry further torpedoes the potential return. No need to sell low on him.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#31 » by Klomp » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:28 pm

I've long thought Miami to be a team that could see value in a Julius Randle. I think a third team would need to be in the deal though, to make the money work.
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Re: What can the Heat get for Jaime Jaquez? 

Post#32 » by BBallFreak » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:43 pm

Klomp wrote:I've long thought Miami to be a team that could see value in a Julius Randle. I think a third team would need to be in the deal though, to make the money work.

I don't see the fit or value, especially not with JJJ's involvement.

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