Is there a market for Lonzo @ the TDL?

MalagaBulls · Post #1 » by **MalagaBulls** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:14 pm

Yes it's Cowley, but let's ask ourselves if sending Lonzo off as an expiring makes sense. What about to a playoff chasing team or bundling him with Vuc? He uses the Schroeder trade to the Dubs as an example.

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cocktailswith_2short · Post #2 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:32 pm

Too much Injury concern his market is non existent . He could be traded tonight and nobody would know if he plays tomorrow.

League Circles · Post #3 » by **League Circles** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:45 pm

There could definitely be a market for him, but no reason to expect it would be more beneficial to us than simply keeping him and his bird rights. Like, yeah, sure we could probably get a couple of bad players on expiring deals for him, but **** that. He's still young enough and good enough that there is a small chance he could still be a long term piece for us. It may be small, but it's probably more likely than getting anything of real value would be for him.

Chi town · Post #4 » by **Chi town** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:12 pm

The play should be Zo for bad contracts that expire when Zach does or one year earlier and a future 1st.

That’s how you rebuild. More assets.

sco · Post #5 » by **sco** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:27 pm

Chi town wrote:The play should be Zo for bad contracts that expire when Zach does or one year earlier and a future 1st.

That’s how you rebuild. More assets.

Meh. I don't think we'd get a good enough 1st to make it worth our while.

I would rather just hold him to the end of the season on the semi-decent chance that he survives the season with another leg injury (which would be a big confidence builder for me in his future durability) and that we could sign him to a reasonable "7th man" deal. I think we would be in decent shape if we can resign him and Giddey on reasonable deals, but he could be good insurance in case we can't keep/don't want Giddey.

meekrab · Post #6 » by **meekrab** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:25 pm

Before dealing him I would call Rich Paul and wonder how much money Lonzo is going to be looking for in the summer.

Post #7 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:29 pm

If he’s healthy and playing well over a reasonable period of time prior to the deadline it would seem there would be pretty nice market. He’s a basketball genius who defends multiple positions and hits 3s. And it’s the last year of his deal.

I’m not talking about a major return or anything. Too many injury questions. But for one run? I bet there will be several interested teams if he’s been healthy and playing well.

Post #8 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:44 pm

If the trade deadline was today, we might be able to get someone to take a flyer on him. I don't really see Schroder being indicative of anything though. DS is dependable in a way that Lonzo just can't be right now.

That said, there is still a lot of season left until the trade deadline. Ball could raise his value if he stays healthy and is able to fully get off of the minutes restriction.

step · Post #9 » by **step** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:34 am

There's definitely a market for his expiring contract... the player, probably not as much.

vxmike · Post #10 » by **vxmike** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:14 am

He has no court value. His value is an expiring contract for salary matching or in exchange for a worse contract plus asset.

kodo · Post #11 » by **kodo** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:31 am

There's no way he fetches a 1st rounder even a bad one. Schroder didn't net a 1st rounder.
He's great on defense but he's been awful on offense, he's shooting 37% overall.
Whatever he returns, maybe a 2nd rounder, I don't think the Bulls will find it worth taking on $20M of long term contracts. Most likely their best scenario for Lonzo is he expires and they get his money off the roster.

We would probably pay a 2nd rounder to get $20M off.

Indomitable · Post #12 » by **Indomitable** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:48 am

kodo wrote:There's no way he fetches a 1st rounder even a bad one. Schroder didn't net a 1st rounder.
He's great on defense but he's been awful on offense, he's shooting 37% overall.
Whatever he returns, maybe a 2nd rounder, I don't think the Bulls will find it worth taking on $20M of long term contracts. Most likely their best scenario for Lonzo is he expires and they get his money off the roster.

We would probably pay a 2nd rounder to get $20M off.

Ball is trying to avoid jumping in traffic. People are over playing him trying to force him to drive and he does not.

sco · Post #13 » by **sco** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:52 pm

Indomitable wrote:
kodo wrote:There's no way he fetches a 1st rounder even a bad one. Schroder didn't net a 1st rounder.
He's great on defense but he's been awful on offense, he's shooting 37% overall.
Whatever he returns, maybe a 2nd rounder, I don't think the Bulls will find it worth taking on $20M of long term contracts. Most likely their best scenario for Lonzo is he expires and they get his money off the roster.

We would probably pay a 2nd rounder to get $20M off.

Ball is trying to avoid jumping in traffic. People are over playing him trying to force him to drive and he does not.

His reluctance to drive isn't a new thing. If you go back pre-injury, he was horrid at anything inside the arc.