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Post #121 » by **og15** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:15 pm

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Kawhi is a weirdo? We would avoid him in our friend groups if he was just a regular guy rather than basketball god.

That is a hilarious story. TBH Kawhi's response is not wrong literally speaking, which is why it's funny.

I always figured Kawhi to be slightly on the spectrum. High functioning of course (all-NBA HOF level in fact), but that story encapsulates it perfectly.

Yea, it's very likely he's on the spectrum, and yes, high functioning, but his personality is too different for it to just be nothing special.

esqtvd · Post #122 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:43 pm

Clemenza wrote:If Jordan Miller gets a standard NBA deal, Harkless might be the guy who gets his open two-way spot.

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He's 24 and 6'3. We need size. Frankly, Kobe is not doing it. Kai either. Or a deal for Bones. Bamba is questionable so far too. Somebody has to go; we can't keep everyone.

[BTW, Cam's deal doesn't count against the salary cap or apron. They like that.]

Clemenza · Post #123 » by **Clemenza** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:06 pm

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Clemenza wrote:If Jordan Miller gets a standard NBA deal, Harkless might be the guy who gets his open two-way spot.

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He's 24 and 6'3. We need size. Frankly, Kobe is not doing it. Kai either. Or a deal for Bones. Bamba is questionable so far too. Somebody has to go; we can't keep everyone.

[BTW, Cam's deal doesn't count against the salary cap or apron. They like that.]

The team made their bed with the bigs they chose to keep. Need another playmaking guard on the roster. Another big on a two-way won't get playing time with the main team anyway. Not sure if we can even get a buyout player with this new CBA and a lack of open roster spots courtesy of PJ Tucker.

esqtvd · Post #124 » by **esqtvd** » Wed Dec 11, 2024 11:16 pm

Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:If Jordan Miller gets a standard NBA deal, Harkless might be the guy who gets his open two-way spot.

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He's 24 and 6'3. We need size. Frankly, Kobe is not doing it. Kai either. Or a deal for Bones. Bamba is questionable so far too. Somebody has to go; we can't keep everyone.

[BTW, Cam's deal doesn't count against the salary cap or apron. They like that.]

The team made their bed with the bigs they chose to keep. Need another playmaking guard on the roster. Another big on a two-way won't get playing time with the main team anyway. Not sure if we can even get a buyout player with this new CBA and a lack of open roster spots courtesy of PJ Tucker.

FTR, Kobe turns 25 in January and Kai turns 24. Not kids, and both are useless. Both have to go if Jordan gets a full contract and Harkless moves up unless Bones or Tucker is moved. But I don't know where another ~6'3" guard's minutes would come from. We have a ton of 'em already and our PFs are 6'4" to 6'6". Neither one solves our shortage of bigs.

FO needs to shake the tree. Poor Zu's tongue is hanging out and we have SFs banging with guys 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier.

Clemenza · Post #125 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 am

TMann with his 2nd annual Casino Night Charity Event

Clemenza · Post #126 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:04 am

esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
He's 24 and 6'3. We need size. Frankly, Kobe is not doing it. Kai either. Or a deal for Bones. Bamba is questionable so far too. Somebody has to go; we can't keep everyone.

[BTW, Cam's deal doesn't count against the salary cap or apron. They like that.]

The team made their bed with the bigs they chose to keep. Need another playmaking guard on the roster. Another big on a two-way won't get playing time with the main team anyway. Not sure if we can even get a buyout player with this new CBA and a lack of open roster spots courtesy of PJ Tucker.

FTR, Kobe turns 25 in January and Kai turns 24. Not kids, and both are useless. Both have to go if Jordan gets a full contract and Harkless moves up unless Bones or Tucker is moved. But I don't know where another ~6'3" guard's minutes would come from. We have a ton of 'em already and our PFs are 6'4" to 6'6". Neither one solves our shortage of bigs.

FO needs to shake the tree. Poor Zu's tongue is hanging out and we have SFs banging with guys 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier.

Jordan gets a full contract if Bones and Tucker are dealt. I'll give Kai another year of development before I'd throw in the towel on him since he was out of basketball for a season. Kobe is definitely on shaky ground. He doesn't even know what he wants to be, let alone the team. Still waiting on KPJ to get some type consistency out there. We see flashes, but then it all turns to sh*t in the next game. The only age shamming you can't do is on Cam Christie and Flowers which is a relief. I just want to see another traditional guard with some scoring ability backing up Harden. Of course Harkless won't be in the rotation even if he got a two-way deal, but Dunn is great defensively but not offensively and Bones can't run or set up an offense to save his life, hell of a scorer tho.

esqtvd · Post #127 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:27 am

Clemenza wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:The team made their bed with the bigs they chose to keep. Need another playmaking guard on the roster. Another big on a two-way won't get playing time with the main team anyway. Not sure if we can even get a buyout player with this new CBA and a lack of open roster spots courtesy of PJ Tucker.

FTR, Kobe turns 25 in January and Kai turns 24. Not kids, and both are useless. Both have to go if Jordan gets a full contract and Harkless moves up unless Bones or Tucker is moved. But I don't know where another ~6'3" guard's minutes would come from. We have a ton of 'em already and our PFs are 6'4" to 6'6". Neither one solves our shortage of bigs.

FO needs to shake the tree. Poor Zu's tongue is hanging out and we have SFs banging with guys 3 inches taller and 30 lbs heavier.

Jordan gets a full contract if Bones and Tucker are dealt. I'll give Kai another year of development before I'd throw in the towel on him since he was out of basketball for a season. Kobe is definitely on shaky ground. He doesn't even know what he wants to be, let alone the team. Still waiting on KPJ to get some type consistency out there. We see flashes, but then it all turns to sh*t in the next game. The only age shamming you can't do is on Cam Christie and Flowers which is a relief. I just want to see another traditional guard with some scoring ability backing up Harden. Of course Harkless won't be in the rotation even if he got a two-way deal, but Dunn is great defensively but not offensively and Bones can't run or set up an offense to save his life, hell of a scorer tho.

Agree with lots of this, bro. But don't be doing me about "shamming" or "slamming" or whatever you meant about 24-25 year olds who haven't done jackspit in the NBA and are still on our 15-man roster + 3 one-ways. If I had my way Sindarius Thornwell would still be a Clipper.

[It broke my heart how he kept showing up around the team uninvited. I bet they finally had to tell him to stay away.]

esqtvd · Post #128 » by **esqtvd** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:30 pm

3 options instead of 2 will be a big deal
PLUS Zu

plus whoever adds the most to the D--Dunn or DJJ

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Ballings7 · Post #129 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:50 am

Powell is like Gary Neal (Spurs legend) but super saiyan (similar size but Powell more athletic)

Luv to see it.

Norm' making the all-star team would be such a fun thing to prop up during the season as-needed without PG13 : )

Maybe he doesn't make the all-star team (think an outside chance, in the conversation); but would be a heck of at candidate for an injury replacement.

Ballings7 · Post #130 » by **Ballings7** » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:30 pm

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From 12/12 with Norm Powell.. 0m to 32m.

esqtvd · Post #131 » by **esqtvd** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:02 am

Philly dumped them both in the offseason, but Basketball Paul still beat out Mo Bamba for their backup center job last year

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Our backup C minutes are killing us again, like in 2022-23.

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MartinToVaught · Post #132 » by **MartinToVaught** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:33 am

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I'd love to know which owner was complaining, because whoever it is doesn't know ball. This is one of the only times I can remember us actually winning a trade. We get fleeced in epic fashion 99.9% of the time and nobody cares.

I wish there was even a fraction of this much outrage over the pick-swap BS that teams like OKC abuse to circumvent the Stepien rule and hog the next decade of other teams' picks. Or teams like the Lakers getting handed superstars for free for decades. This kind of favoritism towards certain franchises over others is one of many reasons why the NBA's ratings are in the toilet.

Funny thing is, I like the new CBA. But if Windhorst is right about this, it means the league lucked into a good system while using the dumbest possible logic to get there.

Captain Ballmer · Post #133 » by **Captain Ballmer** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:49 am

esqtvd wrote:Philly dumped them both in the offseason, but Basketball Paul still beat out Mo Bamba for their backup center job last year

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Our backup C minutes are killing us again, like in 2022-23.

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I would like to have him on our Roster but If I were him I would gladly go to Denver, Mavs or OKC to have a better chance to win something.

Ballings7 · Post #134 » by **Ballings7** » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:17 pm

Paul Reed was one of the guys I wanted this team to sign in the summer.. still would like him now. Not sure about Mo Bamba yet.

Clemenza · Post #135 » by **Clemenza** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:00 am

Bad team and all, BBJ has been a bright spot for the Pels. Bring up the team's record, but it's not his fault the Zion experiment is a failure, Ingram can't stay healthy, Dejounte Murray doesn't move the needle, and the Pels use the Saints medical staff.

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Post #136 » by **og15** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:32 pm

He's had another nice little run (14/2/1 on 49/43 last 7 games), 6/7 in double digits, and is up to 44/34 shooting, good for him, though still a solid amount below league average TS% (54.0% vs 57.4%), it's good to see him progressing, especially as a passer.

Maybe he will develop into a player that can be useful for a winning team, time will tell, but always nice to see players get better whether or not it is on the Clippers. Rising tide lifts all ships, more and better talent in the league is good for all fans.

esqtvd · Post #137 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:25 pm

Clemenza wrote:Bad team and all, BBJ has been a bright spot for the Pels. Bring up the team's record, but it's not his fault the Zion experiment is a failure, Ingram can't stay healthy, Dejounte Murray doesn't move the needle, and the Pels use the Saints medical staff.

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og15 wrote:He's had another nice little run (14/2/1 on 49/43 last 7 games), 6/7 in double digits, and is up to 44/34 shooting, good for him, though still a solid amount below league average TS% (54.0% vs 57.4%), it's good to see him progressing, especially as a passer.

Maybe he will develop into a player that can be useful for a winning team, time will tell, but always nice to see players get better whether or not it is on the Clippers. Rising tide lifts all ships, more and better talent in the league is good for all fans.

Defense and consistency are really the question. The Clippers didn't need a guy who can maybe pile up points on a losing team. KPJ already proved he could do that in HOU and did it better, and although struggling to get his game back, scored 17, 19 and 16 his last 3 games [17 ppg on 50/45.5%] and is kicking in lots of assists and rebs. It's still a crapshoot at this point.

BBJ or Jordan Miller on a two-way was the other decision. Keeping both was not an option. Same player, really. Except BBJ is younger and taller. So again, it's the other factors. Both BBJ and Miller were available to anybody in the NBA who wanted to offer them a REAL contract. The league passed on both of them. [And as we know, the Spurs only signed BBJ to an Exhibit 10 and CUT him!]

Bobbymcgee · Post #138 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:41 pm

I thought Mo Bamba was good buddies with Leonard? I don't see the Clippers let go of him for Reed if that is the case.

esqtvd · Post #139 » by **esqtvd** » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:54 pm

Bobbymcgee wrote:I thought Mo Bamba was good buddies with Leonard? I don't see the Clippers let go of him for Reed if that is the case.

Well, they need to give them a chance to play together I guess. I would give Kobe the boot at this point. Basketball Paul has played some PF and Kobe is useless. But of course our brilliant FO exercised Kobe's 3rd year option in October so I guess he's here to stay. :nonono:

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/clippers-kobe-brown-third-year-option-exercised/

Clemenza · Post #140 » by **Clemenza** » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:10 pm

esqtvd wrote:
Clemenza wrote:Bad team and all, BBJ has been a bright spot for the Pels. Bring up the team's record, but it's not his fault the Zion experiment is a failure, Ingram can't stay healthy, Dejounte Murray doesn't move the needle, and the Pels use the Saints medical staff.

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og15 wrote:He's had another nice little run (14/2/1 on 49/43 last 7 games), 6/7 in double digits, and is up to 44/34 shooting, good for him, though still a solid amount below league average TS% (54.0% vs 57.4%), it's good to see him progressing, especially as a passer.

Maybe he will develop into a player that can be useful for a winning team, time will tell, but always nice to see players get better whether or not it is on the Clippers. Rising tide lifts all ships, more and better talent in the league is good for all fans.

Defense and consistency are really the question. The Clippers didn't need a guy who can maybe pile up points on a losing team. KPJ already proved he could do that in HOU and did it better, and although struggling to get his game back, scored 17, 19 and 16 his last 3 games [17 ppg on 50/45.5%] and is kicking in lots of assists and rebs. It's still a crapshoot at this point.

BBJ or Jordan Miller on a two-way was the other decision. Keeping both was not an option. Same player, really. Except BBJ is younger and taller. So again, it's the other factors. Both BBJ and Miller were available to anybody in the NBA who wanted to offer them a REAL contract. The league passed on both of them. [And as we know, the Spurs only signed BBJ to an Exhibit 10 and CUT him!]

Relax bro, I'm just bringing up BBJ's solid play on the Pels as of late. I'm way past who we kept and who we let go. Calm down, we know the Spurs cut him. This wasn't a moan & groan post.