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2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm

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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#361 » by RichCollab » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:20 pm

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Rainwater wrote:I just hope people remember how good this team was prior to the Paolo injury and while Franz carried the load. Yes, they have their issues; mainly 3 point shooting and 6th man/3rd option. However, they were sitting 3rd in the conference. This team is good, don’t let these losses trick you into thinking otherwise. Injuries are the biggest issue right now.


Suggs is fine as a 3rd option. Yes he needs to be more consistent on the offensive end but he is the 3rd option you speak of.

Suggs is not 3rd option. He is just simply a D guy. That is about it.


Suggs is averaging 16 ppg. That’s not bad for a 3rd option. He also adds 4 assists a game. He has put up 20 point games.
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Post#362 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:43 pm

What to do about Moe?

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Post#363 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:35 pm

eyriq wrote:What to do about Moe?

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He is in his role off the bench. My hope is keep him there. Need the offense.

My thought would be it is time to start black at PG + Suggs but that won't be popular.
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Post#364 » by GameOver25 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:38 pm

While Paolo/Franz are out, we need Black and Jett to be more aggressive looking for their offense. There's no reason for them to be timid right now.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#365 » by RichCollab » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:07 pm

eyriq wrote:What to do about Moe?

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Keep him rolling on the 2nd unit.
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Post#367 » by Skybox » Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:24 pm

GameOver25 wrote:While Paolo/Franz are out, we need Black and Jett to be more aggressive looking for their offense. There's no reason for them to be timid right now.


agree... they should recognize the huge opportunity...and the threat of exposure. they should be playing for their NBA lives. if they dont show more, they could easily find themselves in a trade package to a team that still believes
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Post#368 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:44 pm

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Post#369 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:53 pm

The wide open three shooting all year is downright depressing. What I would give to have one guy where when he shoots a three you feel like it's going in. Can't say that about a single player on the entire team lol.
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Post#370 » by KillMonger » Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:03 pm

Liked what I saw from TDS, he performed well against their starters.... He should be solid off the bench when we get our big guns back

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Post#371 » by SloNick Russia » Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:44 pm

Moe is a weapon waiting for his younger Joe Ingles in second unit to use it best

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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#372 » by drsd » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:53 pm

eyriq wrote:What to do about Moe?

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Looking at this there are two thought.

1) M-Wagner as the DEFENSIVE player of the Game. LOL!

2)
a) M-Wagner = Brunson offensively
b) da Silva = Towns offensively
c) every other player minus one was the same offensively
d) that means Bridges was the only player who's stats were not matched
His lonely floating head was why Orlando lost this game, based on this metric

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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#373 » by eyriq » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:08 pm

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eyriq wrote:What to do about Moe?

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Looking at this there are two thought.

1) M-Wagner as the DEFENSIVE player of the Game. LOL!

2)
a) M-Wagner = Brunson offensively
b) da Silva = Towns offensively
c) every other player minus one was the same offensively
d) that means Bridges was the only player who's stats were not matched
His lonely floating head was why Orlando lost this game, based on this metric

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What is it going to take to get Moe consistently above 20 mpg? That's my question. He is likely as good as Naz and Portis and should get more burn. Maybe?
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Post#374 » by RichCollab » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:30 pm

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eyriq wrote:What to do about Moe?

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Looking at this there are two thought.

1) M-Wagner as the DEFENSIVE player of the Game. LOL!

2)
a) M-Wagner = Brunson offensively
b) da Silva = Towns offensively
c) every other player minus one was the same offensively
d) that means Bridges was the only player who's stats were not matched
His lonely floating head was why Orlando lost this game, based on this metric

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What is it going to take to get Moe consistently above 20 mpg? That's my question. He is likely as good as Naz and Portis and should get more burn. Maybe?



Naz Reid is higher volume 3pt shooter with +4% 3pt percentage. He is better at providing spacing.

20 minutes again seems like a solid number. Moe was pretty bad in the playoffs.

Moe has definitely stepped up.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#375 » by eyriq » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:46 pm

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eyriq wrote:
drsd wrote:

Looking at this there are two thought.

1) M-Wagner as the DEFENSIVE player of the Game. LOL!

2)
a) M-Wagner = Brunson offensively
b) da Silva = Towns offensively
c) every other player minus one was the same offensively
d) that means Bridges was the only player who's stats were not matched
His lonely floating head was why Orlando lost this game, based on this metric

..
What is it going to take to get Moe consistently above 20 mpg? That's my question. He is likely as good as Naz and Portis and should get more burn. Maybe?



Naz Reid is higher volume 3pt shooter with +4% 3pt percentage. He is better at providing spacing.

20 minutes again seems like a solid number. Moe was pretty bad in the playoffs.

Moe has definitely stepped up.
Naz is a better defender as well.
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Re: 2024-2025 Regular Season Game 28: New York Knicks (15-10) at Orlando Magic (17-10) - 6:00 pm 

Post#376 » by Skybox » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:30 pm

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Suggs is fine as a 3rd option. Yes he needs to be more consistent on the offensive end but he is the 3rd option you speak of.

Suggs is not 3rd option. He is just simply a D guy. That is about it.


Suggs is averaging 16 ppg. That’s not bad for a 3rd option. He also adds 4 assists a game. He has put up 20 point games.


That's a solid 3rd option...but he's been second or even first all season...everybody disregards Schroder's 18 (rightfully) for the same reason

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