Where can Lavine thrive ?

[TheHartBreakKid]

He could technically thrive in multiple places as a 3rd/4th option. Problem is the contract, like others have said. Both in terms of how overpaid he is moving forward, and in terms of what you would need to give up to match his salary.

[jmnvcavs]

Nobody is trading for his 45 M a year contact.

[pipfan]

Lavine is playing well this year-solid on D and fewer dumb mistakes. He's as efficient as ever and playing team ball.

Bulls should trade Coby instead

[basketballRob]

Orlando isn't going to trade for him. They are close to a 50-win team when healthy.

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[toooskies]

I like the concept of LaVine in Miami. Swap him for Rozier and Duncan Robinson.

[RookieStar]

Orlando

Yeah... a member of the 3 headed monster. He wont get the opponents best defender om him so he can feast. Also, the other 4 players with him can cover his slack defensively.

Isaac and Cole Anthony for Lavine?

Carter/Bitadze/Wagner
Banchero/DeSilva
Wagner/Howard/Houston
Lavine/KCP/Harris
Suggs/Black/Joseph

Yeah...no. You need another 20-30m to balance the salaries I think. Lavine is too expensive

[joesha1698]

wnba

[Celts17Pride]

Nobody is trading for his 45 M a year contact.

Genius Morey is still around so I wouldn't say nobody.

[Clav]

I'd be compelled to do so for Washington with one of Kuzma or Poole + a swap of THT and Richuan Holmes*... unsure if either want to 'help' the other tank, I don't see this as a winning move for either, but one where both franchises have work yet to complete to succeed.

Wiz may as well cut out Chicago, refuse Lavine, and then trade Kuz/Poole instead for other players that help the rebuild.

However, I just think that Lavine will REALLY help the rebuild because he packs a max-salary punch for a big future move (could be useful in Lavine's expiring year after two rebuild years in DC) and he's bad enough defensively to not win significant games. He's also a stellar scorer, bigger name (attendance boost?) when the light is as green as 40M can buy. Chicago on the other hand really just needs cap flexibility and waiting for Lavine's expiring year is too long I think, they need to divest, split that 40M cap hit into multiple pieces and start moving their cap to a more negotiable position. Bulls/Wiz fans lend me a hand here if I'm off base.


*Holmes is a really bad contract and expires NEXT season, amazingly, he earns $12.6M each year. That's the 'tax' CHI pays to ensure 12M in cap savings in what WOULD have been Lavine's final year as a Bull.

[jordanwilliams6]

Lavine actually a lot better than people think. This year he's been playing under control within an offense and is a passable man defender. He's certainly not a 1st or 2nd best player on a good team but he can definitely be the second scoring option.

He needs a team that already has solid defenders & rim protection, as well someone who can mostly handle the ball.

Orlando is probably the best fit. He'd put up a highly efficient 20/5/5 on that team. Something based around KCP + Anthony + Howard + 1st round pick might get this done. Orlando clears some dead salary as well.

I also think he'd be a really good fit in Denver if they decided to move Murray or Porter Jr for him. Obviously they don't have great defenders but he's no worse than if they moved one of those two guys.

[cpower]

a lot of team, if Chicago cuts him.

[ItsDanger]

Nobody wants him but he makes over $40M. Teams need to avoid paying this type of player too much.

[Drakeem]

LaVine is a good player and hard worker. Don't let the RealGM crowd who prefers a certain style of playing dissuade you from that. This is a guy who came into the league as a raw athlete and turned into someone who could flirt with 30 points regularly. Injuries really stopped him from turning into a premier player. I think teams like Houston or Orlando would really benefit from having a guy who's that big of a threat to score.

[cgf]

Lakers should’ve gone after Lavine & Caruso last year.

[MrGoat]

He could thrive in a lot of places if it wasn't for that contract, kind of like Jerami Grant in that sense.

[WiggOuts]

Hes currently thriving...as an example of why you don't pay 2nd tier players top tier money

[TheHartBreakKid]

Yeah... a member of the 3 headed monster. He wont get the opponents best defender om him so he can feast. Also, the other 4 players with him can cover his slack defensively.

Isaac and Cole Anthony for Lavine?

Carter/Bitadze/Wagner
Banchero/DeSilva
Wagner/Howard/Houston
Lavine/KCP/Harris
Suggs/Black/Joseph

Yeah...no. You need another 20-30m to balance the salaries I think. Lavine is too expensive

I don't believe that's true actually.



I couldn't try this trade in the ESPN trade checker as Isaac isn't eligible to be traded till Jan 6th, but the trade works in the realgm checker if you override the restriction on Isaac and assume that it's taking place in January.

I think Isaac's contract is a weird one due to his deal being renegotiated before it was over, and his cap hit this season (after Jan 6th) is 25m, despite his average salary in his new contract being far less than that.

As a result, the Magic should be able to trade Isaac (25m) and Anthony (12.9m) for Lavine (43m), since the Magic aren't over the Luxury tax this season.

The problem for the Magic regarding this trade financially, however, is that next year F.Wagner's and Sugg's huge extensions kicks in, and they would be dangerously close, if not over the second apron if they take on the remainder of Lavine's deal starting next season. So you would basically be going all in for a championship this season, and would need to start cutting costs as early as next year in order to keep competing.

It's an interesting scenario though that I never thought about before, mainly because it only seems to work financially because of Isaac's unique contract situation (and the fact that the Magic technically have a relatively low payroll right now as their 2 big extensions haven't kicked in yet)

[basketballRob]

Isaac and Cole Anthony for Lavine?

Carter/Bitadze/Wagner
Banchero/DeSilva
Wagner/Howard/Houston
Lavine/KCP/Harris
Suggs/Black/Joseph

Yeah...no. You need another 20-30m to balance the salaries I think. Lavine is too expensive

I don't believe that's true actually.



I couldn't try this trade in the ESPN trade checker as Isaac isn't eligible to be traded till Jan 6th, but the trade works in the realgm checker if you override the restriction on Isaac and assume that it's taking place in January.

I think Isaac's contract is a weird one due to his deal being renegotiated before it was over, and his cap hit this season (after Jan 6th) is 25m, despite his average salary in his new contract being far less than that.

As a result, the Magic should be able to trade Isaac (25m) and Anthony (12.9m) for Lavine (43m), since the Magic aren't over the Luxury tax this season.

The problem for the Magic regarding this trade financially, however, is that next year F.Wagner's and Sugg's huge extensions kicks in, and they would be dangerously close, if not over the second apron if they take on the remainder of Lavine's deal starting next season. So you would basically be going all in for a championship this season, and would need to start cutting costs as early as next year in order to keep competing.

It's an interesting scenario though that I never thought about before, mainly because it only seems to work financially because of Isaac's unique contract situation (and the fact that the Magic technically have a relatively low payroll right now as their 2 big extensions haven't kicked in yet)

The Magic aren't going to do that. Lavine has nice stats on paper but has never had a playoff win.

I think the Lakers should go all in for him.

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[MrBigShot]

LaVine is a good player and hard worker. Don't let the RealGM crowd who prefers a certain style of playing dissuade you from that. This is a guy who came into the league as a raw athlete and turned into someone who could flirt with 30 points regularly. Injuries really stopped him from turning into a premier player. I think teams like Houston or Orlando would really benefit from having a guy who's that big of a threat to score.

Yeah I agree. The guy has generally been a consummate professional, and he maximized his talent to become a 27/5/5 guy on near 50/40/90.

I think he'd thrive in Denver, playing off Jokic.

[Scalabrine]

Detroit to pair with Cunningham in the backcourt or Houston because he is better than Jalen Green.

I don't think he makes sense on either team honestly. Rockets have enough guards. Pistons would probably rather keep developing Ivey and keep their books cleaner.

I feel like Lavines best stops are the usual suspects. Lakers/Kings/Warriors/Suns. Teams that are kind of backed into a corner, have older cores and are trying to win now. He'd be pretty low cost asset wise, just need to match the salaries. Lakers are the only obvious team that could pull that off:

D'Lo/Rui/Vincent/Hood-Shafino for Lavine/Duarte

Depends on what Detroit thinks of Ivey. They need offensive talent desperately. In regards to Houston, i think Lavine is an upgrade to Jalen Green and Houston is most certainly a playoff team.

Phoenix have Beal and Booker, Sacramento has plenty of offense, Golden St. would need to move Wiggins to make this work which would make their perimeter defense worse. I dont think he moves the needle for LA, especially giving up Rui.

Is Hachimura that good? I feel like the only thing he's good at is scoring, and thats something that Lavine is obviously better at. Am I missing something else?