Cam Johnson for the Rockets

[RollingWave]

Tate + Jeff Green (or Landale / Adams would work too) + Brooklyn 2027 swap, for Cam Johnson.

Obviously, this swap is worth more to the Nets than any other team, and for the Nets might be one of the best possible pick / pick swap they can get in a trade, while for the Rockets, there's a lot of uncertainty that Nets would still suck that year.

Cam Johnson is worth quite a bit obviously, but at 28 he's not going to be a major part of the next good Nets team most likely, and not quite sure there are teams out there that's going to throw picks better than this one for him, and the matching salary Houston throws are actual expirings and guys that could play a little at least.

There might be some haggling on the edges, but the general logic of this trade make some sense.

[ThatBoyNick]

We have zero minutes open in the rotation for a forward.

[drchaos]

We have zero minutes open in the rotation for a forward.

One of the Rockets forwards coming back (maybe Eason) would make more sense.

While the Nets would probably like that pick swap back I think one of those Suns first rounders would be more interesting.

[wemby]

Tate + Jeff Green (or Landale / Adams would work too) + Brooklyn 2027 swap, for Cam Johnson.

Obviously, this swap is worth more to the Nets than any other team, and for the Nets might be one of the best possible pick / pick swap they can get in a trade, while for the Rockets, there's a lot of uncertainty that Nets would still suck that year.

You can't trade swaps, only picks with swaps attached. If you In this case it'd have to be "best of Rockets/Nets pick in 2027".
Edit: lost track it was their own swap rights they were returning. Never mind.

[LarsV8]

That swap is one of the most valuable picks in the NBA. Not giving it back.

[Texas Chuck]

Getting your own pick back 3 years from now is only extra valuable if you plan to suck for 3 years. No team wants to do this. So, no this pick isn't extra valuable to Brooklyn.

[TheNetsFan]

That swap is one of the most valuable picks in the NBA. Not giving it back.

It may play out that way, but I don't think it's seen as one of the most valuable. Worst case scenario, the Nets will have 2 very high picks before then. The more likely scenario is that they have multiple rookies, including one highly drafted in '25 & then used their cap space & future picks to start to begin their ascent back up. They're not going to sit on all of those picks & that cap space and go through an extended rebuild process.

[LarsV8]

That swap is one of the most valuable picks in the NBA. Not giving it back.

It may play out that way, but I don't think it's seen as one of the most valuable. Worst case scenario, the Nets will have 2 very high picks before then. The more likely scenario is that they have multiple rookies, including one highly drafted in '25 & then used their cap space & future picks to start to begin their ascent back up. They're not going to sit on all of those picks & that cap space and go through an extended rebuild process.

Good luck.

[Xman]

Cam would not start in front of Brooks.
He might rank ahead of Jabari right now but Eason also is playing better than Jabari and Cam (super subs Amen and Eason are overall better than Jabari/jalen and streaky Vleet on the nights he is not in the groove). Jabari and Jalen have huge potential so team is still trying to get their game right without destroying their confidence. That might change as playoffs get closer.
So, not giving a premium pick swap for a guy that would come off the bench.
Rockets only start dealing their top 7 guys if a tier one star like Booker comes available.
Whitmore has potential and should be the target for someone trying to get lucky and Houston might listen due to roster crowding. But, might be picks coming in instead of going out.

[mademan]

That swap is one of the most valuable picks in the NBA. Not giving it back.

It may play out that way, but I don't think it's seen as one of the most valuable. Worst case scenario, the Nets will have 2 very high picks before then. The more likely scenario is that they have multiple rookies, including one highly drafted in '25 & then used their cap space & future picks to start to begin their ascent back up. They're not going to sit on all of those picks & that cap space and go through an extended rebuild process.

Good luck.

That's 2 full offseasons from now for a team in a prepetual terrible east. They were contending for the play in with Schroeder

If there's no reason to suck that year, they'll be decent

[gswhoops]

We have zero minutes open in the rotation for a forward.

One of the Rockets forwards coming back (maybe Eason) would make more sense.

While the Nets would probably like that pick swap back I think one of those Suns first rounders would be more interesting.

I'd rather have Eason than Cam straight up.

[JKiddy]

The 2027 swap won't be worth much as the Nets will be good by then it seems. So, it would take more for Cam. I do not see this happening.

[Mavrelous]

It's short on value, but Nets should do this if this is available, undervaluing control over your picks is how you donate 3rd pick overall...

[mademan]

We have zero minutes open in the rotation for a forward.

One of the Rockets forwards coming back (maybe Eason) would make more sense.

While the Nets would probably like that pick swap back I think one of those Suns first rounders would be more interesting.

I'd rather have Eason than Cam straight up.

every team would.

[JKiddy]

Tate + Jeff Green (or Landale / Adams would work too) + Brooklyn 2027 swap, for Cam Johnson.

Obviously, this swap is worth more to the Nets than any other team, and for the Nets might be one of the best possible pick / pick swap they can get in a trade, while for the Rockets, there's a lot of uncertainty that Nets would still suck that year.

Cam Johnson is worth quite a bit obviously, but at 28 he's not going to be a major part of the next good Nets team most likely, and not quite sure there are teams out there that's going to throw picks better than this one for him, and the matching salary Houston throws are actual expirings and guys that could play a little at least.

There might be some haggling on the edges, but the general logic of this trade make some sense.

I am curious as I am very familiar with Uncle Jeff (we had him in BK and know he is about to retire) but tell us about Tate. Was he a top pick in a recent draft? Is he averaging around the same points as Cam Johnson or is he a very promising player who shoots the 3 incredibly well? Or is he a defensive stopper?

I do not think these players are what BK is looking for in a CamJo trade. It seems like the word is out they are seeking either 2 1sts and an expiring or 1 great unprotected first and a swap (or 2 2nds) and a very promising player under 25.

[Papi_swav]

Eason or Thompson would have to come back to the Nets but I highly doubt Rockets do this because those guys are clamping guys up and their still on their rookie deals. CamJ wouldn't find much minutes there

[louc1970]

Cam would not start in front of Brooks.
He might rank ahead of Jabari right now but Eason also is playing better than Jabari and Cam (super subs Amen and Eason are overall better than Jabari/jalen and streaky Vleet on the nights he is not in the groove). Jabari and Jalen have huge potential so team is still trying to get their game right without destroying their confidence. That might change as playoffs get closer.
So, not giving a premium pick swap for a guy that would come off the bench.
Rockets only start dealing their top 7 guys if a tier one star like Booker comes available.
Whitmore has potential and should be the target for someone trying to get lucky and Houston might listen due to roster crowding. But, might be picks coming in instead of going out.

With all of the forwards you just mentioned, one would have to leave in any trade. Why have that many on board? As the playoffs arrive and the rotation shortens, a few will be left out.

Pick the 2 lesser of forward group and move them for Johnson. Consolidate and improve.

[Xman]

[quote="louc1970"][quote="Xman"]Cam would not start in front of Brooks.
He might rank ahead of Jabari right now but Eason also is playing better than Jabari and Cam (super subs Amen and Eason are overall better than Jabari/jalen and streaky Vleet on the nights he is not in the groove). Jabari and Jalen have huge potential so team is still trying to get their game right without destroying their confidence. That might change as playoffs get closer.
So, not giving a premium pick swap for a guy that would come off the bench.
Rockets only start dealing their top 7 guys if a tier one star like Booker comes available.
Whitmore has potential and should be the target for someone trying to get lucky and Houston might listen due to roster crowding. But, might be picks coming in instead of going out.[/quote]
With all of the forwards you just mentioned, one would have to leave in any trade. Why have that many on board? As the playoffs arrive and the rotation shortens, a few will be left out.

Pick the 2 lesser of forward group and move them for Johnson. Consolidate and improve.[/quote]

Trading Jabari would be risky. If he gets his shot back to where it was before he was hurt last fall, scary three and guy. Plus, if he puts on twenty pounds he could be scary inside. So, just like Jalen green, hard to let him go because he could make the GM look like an idiot for letting him go.
Eason is perfect fit next to brooks, crazy defense. Gets his points on hustle and ball movement without plays called for him.
So, I would rather stay with the guys that are still improving instead of the guy that has peaked. Unless, it is a star which Cam is not. True, his shooting would be nice but not a big enough improvement to give up nice draft assets.

Jeff and Tate are team options. Plus, can be solid backup. So, fills a backup role and provides cap flexibility.

[basketballRob]

The Magic are in the market for a scoring big now. They have a role for Cam and have the assets to get him.

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