HOU - BRK - IND

[LarsV8]

Bones of the trade would be:

Claxton to Indiana

CamJ and Turner to Houston

Houston's Expirings and Nets 27 pick swap back to them

Would need to work on how the filler would work, but we can debate that if the bones are good.

- Indiana gets a better center locked up on declining contract.
- Nets get their swap back
- Houston adds shooting and a good defensive option at center. (Claxton is too expensive for a backup)

[jayjaysee]

Turner would be a rental if Claxton is too expensive to be a backup.

Turner is really good and will be getting paid a similar amount to what Claxton will make in years 2-4..

Don’t know if Indy does it or not, and don’t think Brooklyn should do it. Would rather the “1-2 firsts” Claxton can return versus the right to tank 3 years from now. Not mentioning Cam inclusion. Maybe worth overpaying for that option in 18-24 months if Brooklyn is still a mediocre team..

[Scoot McGroot]

For Indy, losing the stretch ability at the 5, and having to give up valuable salary filler to match (it would have to be either a core rotation piece like Nesmith or Obi, or a valuable lotto pick guy like Mathurin or Walker and more), and it’s just not enough of an upgrade, if it is one, to pay the necessary price. Clayton’s contract gets better in the future, but it’s hard to match right now.

The style of play part is what’s difficult. Siakam being in the lineup really seems to compress the court. He’s hitting the 3, but he’s not drawing any defensive attention to the arc. They’re letting him shoot, still, and to have him and Claxton on the court would make it doubly difficult, that would eliminate a lot of leeway in the lane.

[Godaddycurse]

Nets are not paying both claxton and CamJ for their swap back. They probably aim to mKe playoffs by 2027 if anything so they may not even trade either player for it.

[ThatBoyNick]

Turner would be a rental if Claxton is too expensive to be a backup.

Turner is really good and will be getting paid a similar amount to what Claxton will make in years 2-4..

Don’t know if Indy does it or not, and don’t think Brooklyn should do it. Would rather the “1-2 firsts” Claxton can return versus the right to tank 3 years from now.

Theoretically because of Turner’s shooting, he could play extended minutes along side Sengun, although not sure if that makes us idiots in theory for trying to replicate the Sabonis/Turner front court that Indy bailed from.

J.Isaac has always been the combo big to play along side Sengun in my mind. Turner isn’t as fluid on the perimeter (by a good bit) but perhaps it could work just enough.

Claxton is mobile enough defensively but obviously doesn’t provide the spacing.

I still have no idea where Cam Johnson’s minutes would come from without an additional trade.

[Xman]

I prefer:
Claxton camj for nesmith jarace furphy turner
Brooklyn gets prospects. Indy improves.
Maybe Indy adds a pick or pull centers out.

[Wizop]

Indiana gets a better center locked up on declining contract.

call me a homer, but I do not agree that we'd be getting a better center.

[Scoot McGroot]

I prefer:
Claxton camj for nesmith jarace furphy turner
Brooklyn gets prospects. Indy improves.
Maybe Indy adds a pick or pull centers out.

That’s nowhere near the salary needed to be legal, nor the realm of what Indy would consider doing right now. Clax and Cam combine for $55.4m. The package from Indy is making about $41m. Indy would institute a hard cap at the first apron by taking more than they send out, and would end this deal about $10m over that hard cap.

As for Indy, I don’t think they’d deal Myles for Claxton, due to style fit. I don’t think they’d be willing to deal Jarace for Cameron Johnson. Adding in Furphy and Nesmith would not be wanted, either.

I don’t see a way for Indy to add both Claxton AND Cameron Johnson without dealing Siakam in terms of salary. There’s just no way to match, while staying under the first apron, let alone out of the tax. And Indy really won’t want to send out Siakam.

[Scoot McGroot]

Indiana gets a better center locked up on declining contract.

call me a homer, but I do not agree that we'd be getting a better center.

Claxton is clearly a better defender. On offense, I think Myles flexibility as to shooting the 3 while being able to dribble drive (straight lines, one spin, etc) clearly make him more valuable there. Where the two cross? That’s for others to say.

[Texas Chuck]

Nets are not paying both claxton and CamJ for their swap back. They probably aim to mKe playoffs by 2027 if anything so they may not even trade either player for it.

Yep we getting sold that getting this swap back is super valuable. And you have to plan to suck for 3 years to bank on this being a good asset.

Feels like a way for Houston to get two players OP wants without having to actually pay for them.

[drchaos]

Please stop trying to sell the pick swap back to the Nets.

Between the draft picks and cap space over the Nets two years the Nets will be competetive.

Any package that would require a first round pick coming to the Nets is too good to trade for the pick swap.

[TheNetsFan]

Bones of the trade would be:

Claxton to Indiana

CamJ and Turner to Houston

Houston's Expirings and Nets 27 pick swap back to them

Would need to work on how the filler would work, but we can debate that if the bones are good.

- Indiana gets a better center locked up on declining contract.
- Nets get their swap back
- Houston adds shooting and a good defensive option at center. (Claxton is too expensive for a backup)

Expirings and canceling that swap does not get Houston one of those players, let alone both. It currently does not have nearly the value you believe it has.

[LarsV8]

Maybe I am crazy, I don't really want to give up the Swap because it could be a top five pick.

I have a hard time believing the Nets are going to be able to tear their team down over the course of this year and be back in the playoffs by 2027.
- Via tankathon, they have picks 8, 21, 24 and 25 in the draft in 25
- They will likely have a really good pick in 2026, lets say it ends up being 3

And they have some cap space options

So going into 2026-27
They will have 4 sophomores, likely no top 5 guy, 1 rookie, who is likely a top pick, and some cap space to spend. Not sure who they are going to spend it on, but free agency is pretty dead these days.

I have an extremely hard time envisioning how they are not a total dumpster fire in 2026-27. So yea, I do consider the 27 swap extremely high upside with great value. Could it crash? Absolutely. But I like my odds and would value it tremendously.

Rebuilds just take longer than that.

[Papi_swav]

Nets need a whole lot more value then that if they're giving up 2 legit starting players. Rockets would need to send Eason and something else

[Godaddycurse]

Maybe I am crazy, I don't really want to give up the Swap because it could be a top five pick.

I have a hard time believing the Nets are going to be able to tear their team down over the course of this year and be back in the playoffs by 2027.
- Via tankathon, they have picks 8, 21, 24 and 25 in the draft in 25
- They will likely have a really good pick in 2026, lets say it ends up being 3

And they have some cap space options

So going into 2026-27
They will have 4 sophomores, likely no top 5 guy, 1 rookie, who is likely a top pick, and some cap space to spend. Not sure who they are going to spend it on, but free agency is pretty dead these days.

I have an extremely hard time envisioning how they are not a total dumpster fire in 2026-27. So yea, I do consider the 27 swap extremely high upside with great value. Could it crash? Absolutely. But I like my odds and would value it tremendously.

Rebuilds just take longer than that.

Then by all means hold on to it and give them something else they actually value

[Xman]

[quote="Scoot McGroot"][quote="Xman"]I prefer:
Claxton camj for nesmith jarace furphy turner
Brooklyn gets prospects. Indy improves.
Maybe Indy adds a pick or pull centers out.[/quote]

That’s nowhere near the salary needed to be legal, nor the realm of what Indy would consider doing right now. Clax and Cam combine for $55.4m. The package from Indy is making about $41m. Indy would institute a hard cap at the first apron by taking more than they send out, and would end this deal about $10m over that hard cap.

As for Indy, I don’t think they’d deal Myles for Claxton, due to style fit. I don’t think they’d be willing to deal Jarace for Cameron Johnson. Adding in Furphy and Nesmith would not be wanted, either.

I don’t see a way for Indy to add both Claxton AND Cameron Johnson without dealing Siakam in terms of salary. There’s just no way to match, while staying under the first apron, let alone out of the tax. And Indy really won’t want to send out Siakam.[/quote]
Works without the centers. To do centers, need 7.7 in separate deal. TJ or obi or two cheaper ones combined. But, I don’t think they really need claxton, cam seems to be what they need.

[Scoot McGroot]

I prefer:
Claxton camj for nesmith jarace furphy turner
Brooklyn gets prospects. Indy improves.
Maybe Indy adds a pick or pull centers out.

That’s nowhere near the salary needed to be legal, nor the realm of what Indy would consider doing right now. Clax and Cam combine for $55.4m. The package from Indy is making about $41m. Indy would institute a hard cap at the first apron by taking more than they send out, and would end this deal about $10m over that hard cap.

As for Indy, I don’t think they’d deal Myles for Claxton, due to style fit. I don’t think they’d be willing to deal Jarace for Cameron Johnson. Adding in Furphy and Nesmith would not be wanted, either.

I don’t see a way for Indy to add both Claxton AND Cameron Johnson without dealing Siakam in terms of salary. There’s just no way to match, while staying under the first apron, let alone out of the tax. And Indy really won’t want to send out Siakam.

Works without the centers. To do centers, need 7.7 in separate deal. TJ or obi or two cheaper ones combined. But, I don’t think they really need claxton, cam seems to be what they need.

TJ isn't legally tradeable this year due to his extension. Indy isn't over the tax line, but they're only about $4m from the first apron, so Cameron Johnson's $4.5m of unearned incentives count against that line, meaning Indy needs to send out more salary than they take back. Now, look at the Indy salary structure:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/indiana-pacers/yearly

....now, exclude Haliburton and Siakam, and then Myles and TJ, and find me more than $27m of matching salary for Cameron Johnson that Brooklyn would accept, that doesn't absolutely hamstring Indy the remainder of this year. It's pretty difficult.

In general, players with a lot of incentives, earned or unearned, make it much more difficult in this new cap environment to salary match in trades. Even if they don't have likely incentives, and no matter HOW difficult it is for that player to ever earn it, it must be accounted against the apron salaries.

[JKiddy]

The Nets do not care about a 2027 swap. Claxton and CamJo are worth much more than a swap unless it will net them Michael Jordan or Kobe!

[wemby]

so the Nets lose both Claxton and Cam Johnson for their pick back? Sorry, for their SWAP RIGHTS undone? ... I'd probably give them a lottery pick this year + a future protected one + some prospects and filler. Sometimes you can just look at the logo under the OP's name and know where it's going.

[JKiddy]

I think this might have been a friendly troll. But, this can be fun if we fix this idea up. I do not think the Nets will trade both. Let's pick one of them.