NBA Trade Thread #11

[sco]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

They should, but they won't. I think you have a better shot at Reaves.

[Guru]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

They should, but they won't. I think you have a better shot at Reaves.

I would do that but I'd want Hayes too. I don't think they are moving off Knecht.

[Clint Eastwood]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

They should, but they won't. I think you have a better shot at Reaves.

Id rather have reaves. Hes better

[Dez]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

They should, but they won't. I think you have a better shot at Reaves.

Id rather have reaves. Hes better

Rather Knecht, Reaves is overrated and horrendous defensively.

[HomoSapien]

They should, but they won't. I think you have a better shot at Reaves.

Id rather have reaves. Hes better

Rather Knecht, Reaves is overrated and horrendous defensively.

I like Reaves a lot but what would we even do with him? We already have Coby, Ayo, and Giddey.

[ChettheJet]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

If true, Vuc and Craig neither big names nor bold playoffs moves

But if they're in the mood the Bulls need Hayes unless Ayo is supposed to be the backup center

[Dez]

Id rather have reaves. Hes better

Rather Knecht, Reaves is overrated and horrendous defensively.

I like Reaves a lot but what would we even do with him? We already have Coby, Ayo, and Giddey.

Hopefully that's a decision that never has to be made.

[HomoSapien]

The Lakers are on the verge of falling out of the play-in territory. They are traditionally attracted to big names and are open to bold playoff-minded moves. Would they consider:

Knecht & Russell for Vuc & Craig?

If true, Vuc and Craig neither big names nor bold playoffs moves

But if they're in the mood the Bulls need Hayes unless Ayo is supposed to be the backup center

Next to James and Davis, they are absolutely playoff moves. Vuc is having an incredible season and Craig is a very good role player/defender.

[Infinity2152]

Lakers have 3 shooting guards 22 and under besides Reaves, and 4 small forwards 25 and under including Knecht, not including Lebron. Where their team is now, Vuc and Craig are infinitely more useful than Knecht.

[Guru]

What about Craig-Vuc-THT for Knecht-Russell-Hayes

Then you ship Russell out somewhere for picks

[Infinity2152]

Alright, let's get ready to rumble! Is anybody willing to discuss trading for the actual best available player on the market, drafted by the Bulls and one of 3 or 4 players that have proven they can take an average overall team to the championship? Is the hate for Jimmy butler that bad, is it the belief that he's washed, or is the determination to get worse mean we should ignore acquiring gamechangers? He is older, but his next contract will hopefully be three years, it'll end when he's one year younger than Lebron is now, and Butler is also pretty damn fit. We actually may be able to draft our rookie AND add Butler this summer without moving Lavine if Vuc is moved. His personality would be a concern, as is his relationship with Bulls management, but there's been a lot of turnover here since Jimmy was here. He's almost certainly going to better than ANY rookie we draft over the next 2-3 years.

What if the trade was some variation of Butler, Jaime Jaquez Jr, and Josh Richardson for Vucevic, Coby White, and Lonzo Ball? He's averaging 19, 6 and 5, 36% from the three and career high 55%Fg with the same tough defense, btw.

[2weekswithpay]

Vuc isn't going to help the Lakers and their 21st-ranked defense. They need wing defenders and a capable backup 5. Trading either Knect or Reaves for Vuc would be an overpay. Trading Knecht, who you just drafted for a 34 year old center that can't defend doesn't make much sense for them.

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[2weekswithpay]

Alright, let's get ready to rumble! Is anybody willing to discuss trading for the actual best available player on the market, drafted by the Bulls and one of 3 or 4 players that have proven they can take an average overall team to the championship? Is the hate for Jimmy butler that bad, is it the belief that he's washed, or is the determination to get worse mean we should ignore acquiring gamechangers? He is older, but his next contract will hopefully be three years, it'll end when he's one year younger than Lebron is now, and Butler is also pretty damn fit. We actually may be able to draft our rookie AND add Butler this summer without moving Lavine if Vuc is moved. His personality would be a concern, as is his relationship with Bulls management, but there's been a lot of turnover here since Jimmy was here. He's almost certainly going to better than ANY rookie we draft over the next 2-3 years.

What if the trade was some variation of Butler, Jaime Jaquez Jr, and Josh Richardson for Vucevic, Coby White, and Lonzo Ball? He's averaging 19, 6 and 5, 36% from the three and career high 55%Fg with the same tough defense, btw.

Are you willing to pay Jimmy what he wants? Butler is still very good but he's 35 and only plays around 60 games a season now. The Heat understandably don't want to overpay to keep him.

As for the trade. You need a 3rd team for Coby because the Heat already have Rozier and Herro.

[jordanwilliams6]

Vuc isn't going to help the Lakers and their 21st-ranked defense. They need wing defenders and a capable backup 5. Trading either Knect or Reaves for Vuc would be an overpay. Trading Knecht, who you just drafted for a 34 year old center that can't defend doesn't make much sense for them.

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I think Craig could easily start on that Lakers team. Rui can go back to the bench (or traded) and you start Reaves/Craig/Lebron/Davis/Vuc

[2weekswithpay]

Vuc isn't going to help the Lakers and their 21st-ranked defense. They need wing defenders and a capable backup 5. Trading either Knect or Reaves for Vuc would be an overpay. Trading Knecht, who you just drafted for a 34 year old center that can't defend doesn't make much sense for them.

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I think Craig could easily start on that Lakers team. Rui can go back to the bench (or traded) and you start Reaves/Craig/Lebron/Davis/Vuc

I like Craig, but he's a career journeyman. No serious team should be starting him. The Lakers are already a pretty old team and have the worst transition defense in the NBA, and adding two 34-year-olds to that isn't going to help them.

[pipfan]

Since AKME/ownership won't tank and don't seem to care about our pick, let's roll the dice

BI/Hawkins for White/Giddy/Ball (plus NO sends out 2027 2nd back)

Our defense would improve A TON (I do hate losing Ball, but his salary is necessary)
Ayo/Lavine/BI/PWill/Vuc
weak bench of Carter/THT/Terry/Phillips/Smith/Matas/Duarte/Hawkins

That team MAYBE could sneak into the 2nd round-better than the playin

[ChettheJet]

Vuc isn't going to help the Lakers and their 21st-ranked defense. They need wing defenders and a capable backup 5. Trading either Knect or Reaves for Vuc would be an overpay. Trading Knecht, who you just drafted for a 34 year old center that can't defend doesn't make much sense for them.

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I think Craig could easily start on that Lakers team. Rui can go back to the bench (or traded) and you start Reaves/Craig/Lebron/Davis/Vuc

Find somebody with the Lakers who is looking for them to not just play but start not 1 but 2 former barely play in contender Bulls, one of which being Craig who barely gets his role playing backside off the bench, for their playoff run.

[Infinity2152]

Alright, let's get ready to rumble! Is anybody willing to discuss trading for the actual best available player on the market, drafted by the Bulls and one of 3 or 4 players that have proven they can take an average overall team to the championship? Is the hate for Jimmy butler that bad, is it the belief that he's washed, or is the determination to get worse mean we should ignore acquiring gamechangers? He is older, but his next contract will hopefully be three years, it'll end when he's one year younger than Lebron is now, and Butler is also pretty damn fit. We actually may be able to draft our rookie AND add Butler this summer without moving Lavine if Vuc is moved. His personality would be a concern, as is his relationship with Bulls management, but there's been a lot of turnover here since Jimmy was here. He's almost certainly going to better than ANY rookie we draft over the next 2-3 years.

What if the trade was some variation of Butler, Jaime Jaquez Jr, and Josh Richardson for Vucevic, Coby White, and Lonzo Ball? He's averaging 19, 6 and 5, 36% from the three and career high 55%Fg with the same tough defense, btw.

Are you willing to pay Jimmy what he wants? Butler is still very good but he's 35 and only plays around 60 games a season now. The Heat understandably don't want to overpay to keep him.

As for the trade. You need a 3rd team for Coby because the Heat already have Rozier and Herro.

Wouldn't mind discussing it. I think Jimmy has value beyond just his physical abilities. Don't see them diminishing to the point where they slow him down much over the next few year. Lots of players play into their late 30's and are effective. Don't think Jimmy's getting a max contract from anyone this summer, he's going to have to settle. I can see him being just as effective or more effective than Ingram or MPJ the next few years, at close to the same money. They're injured more than Jimmy, lol. I think the cost to get Butler is way less than other equal talents, because of his age. Would rather go after him in FA for several reasons: We keep the players or asset equivalent and get Butler just for cap space. Would also be more likely to keep this draft pick, especially if we trade Vuc before deadline. He's the prototype wing to play next to Zach, and MIGHT be considered a 1A, at least in the playoffs.

I do think this Bulls team with Butler, minus Ball and Vuc, add a defensive center and top 10 rookie, could be top 4 in the East. Butler's kind of unique, it could blow up, or he could push these young guys to new levels. With age also comes maturity and wisdom. A Jimmy Butler homecoming, and he leads the team past the second round or to the Finals, could do a ton for his legacy.

I think the other thought is guys want us to be contenders while remaining out of the luxury tax. That's almost impossible, in today's NBA. At some point if we actually want to contend, we'll have multiple expensive players here. We're worried about cap in one of the biggest markets in the league.

[HomoSapien]

Since AKME/ownership won't tank and don't seem to care about our pick, let's roll the dice

BI/Hawkins for White/Giddy/Ball (plus NO sends out 2027 2nd back)

Our defense would improve A TON (I do hate losing Ball, but his salary is necessary)
Ayo/Lavine/BI/PWill/Vuc
weak bench of Carter/THT/Terry/Phillips/Smith/Matas/Duarte/Hawkins

That team MAYBE could sneak into the 2nd round-better than the playin

Or Pat and Ball for Ingram.

[HomoSapien]

Trendon Watford is a guy that I've been high on for awhile. He always seems to stand out when we play against him. He's a highly skilled PF who has a lot of the strengths that Billy seems to like. Not sure what it would take to get him, but he's someone I'd like to target if we start trying to make small surgical improvements to the roster.

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