NBA Cup Suggestion

[Doranku]

Sometimes new ideas just don't work out. I guess you can keep shoving it down their throats but ignoring the hardcore fanbase constantly is a mistake.

From what I seen, more "hardcore" fans actually enjoy it because it literally doesn't take away anything and teams/players seem to enjoy it too.

Most of the comments I've seen disparaging it are from casuals who dislike everything.

Of course it can be tweaked and changed - almost everything that has become a mainstay in different sports has had to find a happy medium.

What do you mean it literally doesn't take away anything? The schedule is all sorts of **** up because of the tournament. For example, from December 8th-18th, nearly TWO weeks... the Mavs have played TWO games. I'm sure other teams are experiencing something similar. It has completely killed all regular season momentum. And for what? So we can watch a few exhibition games in Vegas with a dead crowd?

[SOUL]

What do you mean it literally doesn't take away anything? The schedule is all sorts of **** up because of the tournament. For example, from December 8th-18th, nearly TWO weeks... the Mavs have played TWO games. I'm sure other teams are experiencing something similar. It has completely killed all regular season momentum. And for what? So we can watch a few exhibition games in Vegas with a dead crowd?

So now it's all about momentum and not teams getting more rest in between games? Isn't that what people want? The NBA has gone from an average of 19 B2Bs in a season 10 years ago to about 14-15 per team the last two years, which is quite a bit less in a short period of time.

I just think fans need to be consistent about what they want or don't want, because it seems to change every time they do something that fans were previously complaining about.

[DoItALL9]

Let Seattle host prior to expansion

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[magee]

I was actually serious about all those changes.

[ropjhk]

It has to be simple. Any scheme that is too convoluted for busy sports fans is destined to fail.

This is "simple". NFL fans everywhere seem to be able to figure their schedule out. Why cant the NBA fans comprehend the same thing?

I think the main factor holding it back right now is randomly a Tuesday is NBA cup night, but Wednesday isn't, etc.

Like Raptors played Miami in the Cup on a Friday night, and then played them again on Sunday in a non-cup game. Makes ZERO sense and I think what makes it tough to follow is the schedule is (seemingly) random unless you take significant time to follow it.

My suggestion sets aside a specific amount of time for the cup. Every game from Christmas to Super Bowl is the Cup. There is 6ish weeks here that it is the only NBA thing going on.

Get rid of it.

Why even make this post? Just don't pay attention if it bothers you.

Having a time period set aside for the NBA cup would be an improvement. Better than random cup games.

[YogurtProducer]

I was actually serious about all those changes.

My bad - some seemed pretty out there

I don't think we want to see shorter games, shorter shot clocks, or change the backcourt violation rules. Seems like trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

But stuff like end of game foul game is something that has been discussed for years about how horrible it can be to watch (and the ELAM ending could be the possible solution).

Right now the G-League is used for some of these tests, but it would be interesting if we had a section of the season for the "Cup" where new ideas could be tested in real, meaningful, NBA games.

[YogurtProducer]

Sometimes new ideas just don't work out. I guess you can keep shoving it down their throats but ignoring the hardcore fanbase constantly is a mistake.

From what I seen, more "hardcore" fans actually enjoy it because it literally doesn't take away anything and teams/players seem to enjoy it too.

Most of the comments I've seen disparaging it are from casuals who dislike everything.

Of course it can be tweaked and changed - almost everything that has become a mainstay in different sports has had to find a happy medium.

What do you mean it literally doesn't take away anything? The schedule is all sorts of **** up because of the tournament. For example, from December 8th-18th, nearly TWO weeks... the Mavs have played TWO games. I'm sure other teams are experiencing something similar. It has completely killed all regular season momentum. And for what? So we can watch a few exhibition games in Vegas with a dead crowd?

Does it really matter? Teams get some extra practice time which could be a positive in the long run.

And they are not exhibition games lol. Outside the NBA Cup final, every other game counts in the standings no different than any other game.

[magee]

I was actually serious about all those changes.

My bad - some seemed pretty out there

I don't think we want to see shorter games, shorter shot clocks, or change the backcourt violation rules. Seems like trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

But stuff like end of game foul game is something that has been discussed for years about how horrible it can be to watch (and the ELAM ending could be the possible solution).

Right now the G-League is used for some of these tests, but it would be interesting if we had a section of the season for the "Cup" where new ideas could be tested in real, meaningful, NBA games.

The main reason why it's the perfect game to implement any of these changes is because it's the only true "One-Off" thing in the NBA right now.

[Chuck Everett]

Scrap it. Good try to do something different, but ultimately pointless.

[LuDux1]

Why people are comparing NBA Cup with soccer cups and not European basketball cup tournaments?

[brackdan70]

Scrap it……
And get off my lawn!!

[flranger]

NBA should just give up November/December to the NFL/football and start the season as football wraps up in January and go into the summer when there is no competition other than MLB with finals in August. July and August sucks as a sports fan, I'll happily take NBA playoffs and finals.

[phanman]

From what I seen, more "hardcore" fans actually enjoy it because it literally doesn't take away anything and teams/players seem to enjoy it too.

Most of the comments I've seen disparaging it are from casuals who dislike everything.

Of course it can be tweaked and changed - almost everything that has become a mainstay in different sports has had to find a happy medium.

What do you mean it literally doesn't take away anything? The schedule is all sorts of **** up because of the tournament. For example, from December 8th-18th, nearly TWO weeks... the Mavs have played TWO games. I'm sure other teams are experiencing something similar. It has completely killed all regular season momentum. And for what? So we can watch a few exhibition games in Vegas with a dead crowd?

I don't think any team is going to complain about getting an extra week or so break after playing ~25 games. Like others have mentioned, the inclusion of the Cup and putting aside a few extra days with no games hasn't impacted both the length of the overall RS season and the b2b situation either. Team's overall dont even have the chance to practice anymore, you seriously don't think they haven't taken advantage of this extra time to get a meaningful one in? That Mavericks team you brought up specifically are banged up with Luka missing tonight's game Luka, Hardy and Exum all still out for tonight's game and Kyrie, Kleber, Naji and PJ all questionable.

I disagree that it's killed RS momentum. Even with the Bucks winning the game that didn't count, it's not going magically impact any contending team's willingness to win. If anything, it helped turn around the Bucks season as they used the Cup tournament to turn their season around make a statement to the league that the Dame/Giannis pairing is firing on all cylinders.

Also, I am not sure what games you were watching (if you even tuned it) but the Las Vegas crowd was lively.

[flranger]

NBA should just give up November/December to the NFL/football and start the season as football wraps up in January and go into the summer when there is no competition other than MLB with finals in August. July and August sucks as a sports fan, I'll happily take NBA playoffs and finals.

Short preseason after New Years with opening day for every team on MLK with staggered starts seems doable.

[Eightnineborn]

Frankly, i enjoyed the bucks okc game in Vegas…

[tamaraw08]

it really does feel like the NBA Cup could be executed better. For starters it needs to be done almost like a "March Madness" style of tournament where a whole month of the regular season becomes "Cup Season" and all games are only NBA Cup games.

Also it needs to have a true massive bracket similar to March Madness

actually the NBA just needs to copy March Madness, it's pathetic how the biggest college basketball tournament of the year manages to outdo the NBA for such a small period of time and big part of it is the history behind it as well as the extravagant idea of a Bo1 single knockout tournament.

This concept of a knockout system like the NCAA is the best idea IMO. But I think they should hold it on February, the "dog days" of the season when Stars have played 40 games or so and start getting bored and/or tired with 40+games to go.
Do a 30 team tournament, First place host 30th seed etc (based on first 40 games team records).

[doogie_hauser]

Eventually invite Euro/International teams.

Keep moving the semis and final to cities that don't have a team every year instead of just Vegas.

Also introduce some rule changes in the Cup games, spice the game up a bit.

There is a lot of unrealised potential in the format actually.

[fansse]

1- make the wins count in the standings.
2- automatically homecourt advantage or an advantage of some sort for the playoffs. Just giving away $$$ to players making over 20+ millions is a nonestory (no fan cares about the 12-13th man on the roster or staff)

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

As a long time fan, I'd love to see it gone.

[baldur]

just cancel it.