RS 24/25 - Mavs vs Clippers (Thursday Dec 19, 830PM EST)

daoneandonly · Post #21 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:46 am

Just stupid to give away games like this in a loaded West. These guys rested, they can play

joesha1698 · Post #22 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:50 am

honestly they should be able to beat this clipper team w/o kyrie and luka.

joesha1698 · Post #23 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:07 am

dunn always does something dumb. thanks for helping dallas.

joesha1698 · Post #24 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:15 am

I feel like Kidd hasnt found the right stuff this game...Dinwiddie is pressing way too much. Kidd should have went away from him and more to an energy lineup with the young guys...more PJ and less Dinwiddie.

joesha1698 · Post #25 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:15 am

Might have waited too long..

joesha1698 · Post #26 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:35 am

I swear Lively needs to smarten up...he makes too many dumb mistakes.

joesha1698 · Post #27 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:43 am

The level of mistakes lively makes when Kyrie and Luka are not on the court is concerning. He's gonna have to learn how to be a more discipline player. The game is still too fast for him.

Post #28 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:45 am

Well, that wasn't pretty...
Klay missed transition play killed it, all 3 PGs out isn't a way to run an offense...

joesha1698 · Post #29 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:46 am

lol @ jeff van gundy....still on the court...

Post #30 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:52 am

Hopefully this doesn't come back and bite them in the ass, Clippers are getting Kawhi back and will go on a run...

leolozon · Post #31 » by **leolozon** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:27 am

How many contusion did Luka get this year?

This is the new key word to sit him.

41Dirk41 · Post #32 » by **41Dirk41** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:39 am

A team leaded by Spencer Dinwiddie is the worst nightmare for a fan. He is a very low IQ basketball player. Tunnel vision.

However we can't beat the Clips without Luka&Kyrie, mostly with a coach who doesn't add nothing to the team. When we need something from Kidd we fall miserably.

Klay was huge in a game where nobody can create shoots for him. The end of the 3rd with him out cost us the game.
Lively&Gaf were meh. Too many bad mistakes.
At least Lively is young and he can be better but everytime Zubac face them he has a career night.
I will trade Gafford until he has great trade value.

The others played mediocre to bad.

Maxi Kleber 13 minutes don't even deserve a comment. He is the worst player in the league probably right now. Useless.

One of our superstars had to play, it's a shame what we have seen tonight. We skip the game.

joesha1698 · Post #33 » by **joesha1698** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:57 am

41Dirk41 wrote:A team leaded by Spencer Dinwiddie is the worst nightmare for a fan. He is a very low IQ basketball player. Tunnel vision.

However we can't beat the Clips without Luka&Kyrie, mostly with a coach who doesn't add nothing to the team. When we need something from Kidd we fall miserably.

Klay was huge in a game where nobody can create shoots for him. The end of the 3rd with him out cost us the game.
Lively&Gaf were meh. Too many bad mistakes.
At least Lively is young and he can be better but everytime Zubac face them he has a career night.
I will trade Gafford until he has great trade value.

The others played mediocre to bad.

Maxi Kleber 13 minutes don't even deserve a comment. He is the worst player in the league probably right now. Useless.

One of our superstars had to play, it's a shame what we have seen tonight. We skip the game.

He's far from low IQ - he just tries to do too much at times...it has more to do with ego than IQ, imo. His personality has got him in trouble in the past. He should have shared the ball more and helped his teammates stay dialed in. He was dominating the ball way too much and trying to do too much. Its really frustrating watching Lively. Self inflicted mistakes is a sign of low basketball and thats what I see from Lively at times....but like you said, he's young and has a lot to learn about attacking the game from a mindset point of view . I would love to sit him down and show him some tape...we would have a real heart 2 heart.. I would basically him how his mistakes are mental and where he needs to be mentally stronger.

I agree with you about Maxi. I think Omax would have gave us more on the defensive end and more energy.

Bob8 · Post #34 » by **Bob8** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:28 am

daoneandonly wrote:Just stupid to give away games like this in a loaded West. These guys rested, they can play

Why would they sit Luka and Kyrie, when they had 1 game in 8 days? Luka didn't train at all after Warriors game, my wild guess is that his heel is really bothering him. I'm sure that Kyrie is not ok too, considering how few games has he missed. Nobody is deliberately throwing away home games against direct competition.

Bob8 · Post #35 » by **Bob8** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:34 am

joesha1698 wrote:
Doranku wrote:Luka out, Kyrie out. The regular season is so boring.

Actually, I find this team watchable even without those guys. Just me tho.

Fantastic experience, a lot of ball movement and shooting in last moments.

Mavs aren't playing with both Luka and Kyrie even for the minute inside games, so missing both can't be compensated. Klay the only player with +.

I guess they play Kleber, because they want to trade him, but his value is lower every game, it's nearing absolute 0. I doubt that he can play even amateur league games.

Teffer10 · Post #36 » by **Teffer10** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:34 am

Bob8 wrote:
joesha1698 wrote:
Doranku wrote:Luka out, Kyrie out. The regular season is so boring.

Actually, I find this team watchable even without those guys. Just me tho.

I guess they play Kleber, because they want to trade him, but his value is lower every game, it's nearing absolute 0. I doubt that he can play even amateur league games.

I wonder if that is why OMax is getting some burn.
This team has a small window of opportunity to win with a Luka/Kyrie/Klay big 3 so it wouldn't surprise me if OMax will be dangled over the next couple months.
For some reason, I think OMax will be packaged with Maxi in some type of a deal to acquire DFS.

daoneandonly · Post #37 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:06 am

There was always that unfair soft label that get attached to many Euro players. People called Dirk that when he was anything but.

But Luka sadly is, no excuse to sit out a game against a West foe when Kyrie is also out.

daoneandonly · Post #38 » by **daoneandonly** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:18 am

Klay and Gaff have great utility when they have a PG getting them their shots. Fairly useless without

Bob8 · Post #39 » by **Bob8** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:00 pm

daoneandonly wrote:There was always that unfair soft label that get attached to many Euro players. People called Dirk that when he was anything but.

But Luka sadly is, no excuse to sit out a game against a West foe when Kyrie is also out.

At this point I really don't know, if you're trolling or not, Luka has problems with his heel that's why he didn't train after Warriors game.(Kyrie did.) Medical staff probably didn't want to risk something more serious, torn achilles tendon for example. Difficult to call him soft after last playoffs, but I guess with your 7 years hating history, you can. I'm sure you will be opening champagne, when they finally trade him.

Post #40 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:14 pm

This team has shown elite level of basketball, inner circle contender level elite, but we haven't been able to view it all consistently, it's annoying.
Hopefully after ASB everyone is healthy and is able to go on a similar run to last year.
My main concerns:
1. Gafford drop off and what's behind it.
2. Is there any juice left in Maxi? Is it worth it to hurt chemistry with deadline trade or do we roll with him?

Kyrie hasn't missed a continuous chunk, hopefully Exum is back and Kyrie can take time off before ASB, his recess last year returned him in amazing shape that continued until the finals.