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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#101 » by Loaf_of_bread » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:29 am

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Klomp wrote:I'm saying that most times, he tends to be more negative than positive. Which is understandable, he's a rookie. That's why I think forcing him into the lineup is silly.


Yes, his +- numbers are terrible. But, he needs run to learn from his mistakes. If, over the course of 20 games there is zero improvement, I'd vouch for dleague. But sitting on the bench is not how i would handle him..

It's definitely a tricky situation. I just tend to trust veterans more than 19-year old rookies.

Really the guy we probably miss most is Kyle. Provided that safety valve at PG and great defense and length.


I agree. But, there is enough time to lose a few games to figure out if rob can hang or not. We need to find out. If he can't, we are screwed without another point to share minutes w mike... much bigger problem for us than c.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#102 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:30 am

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Klomp wrote:I think moments like these are probably good to try new things. See if we can unlock something in Donte.


I’ll be honest, I’m done with Donte and Julius and normally I’m patient. Trying something new for me would be giving TSJ a shot. Although he’s a rookie, he’s aggressive and brings something different. Seems like he’ll apply pressure in transition and the half court by attacking the rim.


But we have TC, so the trade must work. Oh wait I forgot, the good trades are TC and the bad ones are ownership.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#103 » by Note30 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:30 am

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Folklore wrote:There must have been a team that would have taken Rudy. This team always rushes their trades.


Thought he was the second best player on this team and Towns was the third.

Where is that top 10 player crowd?


Only fools thought that. Rudy should have been traded to Detroit for expiring's. My first move would have been getting Rui Hachimura from Washington to play with Towns. But getting what we got for Towns is horrible.


KGDaBom, Neeva, and whole host of people definitely thought that.

Just for a bit more salt, Walker Kessler is putting up some similar stats advanced metric wise and normally that are pretty similar to Gobert.

This is it. We had one good year, hope it was worth it. Prepare for first round exits or worse for the next 8 years. So glad we have no picks to pull ourselves out of this mess.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#104 » by Klomp » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:31 am

Timberwolves are 9-1 when the opponent scores under 105 points this season, 5-10 (about to be 5-11?) when they score over 105 points.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#105 » by Note30 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:32 am

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Klomp wrote:I think moments like these are probably good to try new things. See if we can unlock something in Donte.


I’ll be honest, I’m done with Donte and Julius and normally I’m patient. Trying something new for me would be giving TSJ a shot. Although he’s a rookie, he’s aggressive and brings something different. Seems like he’ll apply pressure in transition and the half court by attacking the rim.


But we have TC, so the trade must work. Oh wait I forgot, the good trades are TC and the bad ones are ownership.


Dude got lucky drafting a top 5-8 center of all time and all of sudden he's a god.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#106 » by Loaf_of_bread » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:32 am

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Though Towns was total trash and shouldn't be on this team? He's definitely not a better center than Rudy right?

Who's your new scapegoat?


We weren't winning a championship with kat.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#107 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:32 am

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Yes, his +- numbers are terrible. But, he needs run to learn from his mistakes. If, over the course of 20 games there is zero improvement, I'd vouch for dleague. But sitting on the bench is not how i would handle him..

It's definitely a tricky situation. I just tend to trust veterans more than 19-year old rookies.

Really the guy we probably miss most is Kyle. Provided that safety valve at PG and great defense and length.


I agree. But, there is enough time to lose a few games to figure out if rob can hang or not. We need to find out. If he can't, we are screwed without another point to share minutes w mike... much bigger problem for us than c.


Sorry but no. When Rudy is off (not even off the floor, just not playing well,) we are doomed. We cannot rebound, defend the rim, and cannot defend the perimeter because we need to collapse to try and recover for the lack of interior defense.

We also badly need an offensive system that promotes ball movement. That requires a coach who knows how to employ an actual offense.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#108 » by Folklore » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:32 am

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Klomp wrote:I think moments like these are probably good to try new things. See if we can unlock something in Donte.


I’ll be honest, I’m done with Donte and Julius and normally I’m patient. Trying something new for me would be giving TSJ a shot. Although he’s a rookie, he’s aggressive and brings something different. Seems like he’ll apply pressure in transition and the half court by attacking the rim.

Yes. At this point just entertain us fans. Because we aren't getting past the first round for the next 8 years so show us some potential.

Unless Naw is a unrestricted FA would he stay here? The same goes for Naz.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#109 » by Norseman79 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:33 am

How can they look this bad after having how many days off and practices? I expect changes to be made shortly.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#110 » by Note30 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:35 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
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Loaf_of_bread wrote:.


Though Towns was total trash and shouldn't be on this team? He's definitely not a better center than Rudy right?

Who's your new scapegoat?


We weren't winning a championship with kat.


Thought we never could so long as KAT was on this team. Weren't those almost your exact words? That he was a whiny little bitch?
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#111 » by m2002brian » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:35 am

Can we con a team into taking DDV and get Valančiūnas out of it?
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#112 » by Baseline81 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:36 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:We weren't winning a championship with kat.

We'll never know now. I, for one, would have preferred the front office gave the team a chance to run it back first.

But we can, for certainty, say we were a better team with Towns than we currently are with Randle and DDV.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#113 » by WolfAddict » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:36 am

We can barely win a GAME with Randle...
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#114 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:36 am

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Folklore wrote:
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Thought he was the second best player on this team and Towns was the third.

Where is that top 10 player crowd?


Only fools thought that. Rudy should have been traded to Detroit for expiring's. My first move would have been getting Rui Hachimura from Washington to play with Towns. But getting what we got for Towns is horrible.


KGDaBom, Neeva, and whole host of people definitely thought that.

Just for a bit more salt, Walker Kessler is putting up some similar stats advanced metric wise and normally that are pretty similar to Gobert.

This is it. We had one good year, hope it was worth it. Prepare for first round exits or worse for the next 8 years. So glad we have no picks to pull ourselves out of this mess.


Rudy when he comes to play is absolutely a top 10 player. He is a walking top 10 defense. The Neverminds alone change the entire flow of opposing teams offense. Rudy can board like nobodies business, and when people lob it to him, he can score. He is also an amazing screen assister, and can play excellent PNR both big/small and big/big. If anything you see tonight how a bad Rudy game changes everything.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#115 » by Folklore » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:37 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:.


Though Towns was total trash and shouldn't be on this team? He's definitely not a better center than Rudy right?

Who's your new scapegoat?


We weren't winning a championship with kat.


This needs to stop. Trading Towns and making a bad trade with Towns are two different things. Trading Towns for.... Bam and Jovic would have been great. Or Rudy for a PF who can spread the floor would have been better than this.
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Post#116 » by winforlose » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:37 am

Norseman79 wrote:How can they look this bad after having how many days off and practices? I expect changes to be made shortly.


Poor rotations, poor ball movement, lack of effort, and lack of leadership.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#117 » by Mattya » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:39 am

DDV clearly wants no part of his role or this team. Some of the worst body language I have ever seen in a Wolves uniform.
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#118 » by Guest84 » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:39 am

Norseman79 wrote:How can they look this bad after having how many days off and practices? I expect changes to be made shortly.


The weather hit and they didn’t want to come out…
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#119 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:40 am

Norseman79 wrote:How can they look this bad after having how many days off and practices? I expect changes to be made shortly.

Coach is stubborn and clueless
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Re: Knicks at Timberwolves, 8:30 pm local, TNT 

Post#120 » by Loaf_of_bread » Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:40 am

winforlose wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Klomp wrote:It's definitely a tricky situation. I just tend to trust veterans more than 19-year old rookies.

Really the guy we probably miss most is Kyle. Provided that safety valve at PG and great defense and length.


I agree. But, there is enough time to lose a few games to figure out if rob can hang or not. We need to find out. If he can't, we are screwed without another point to share minutes w mike... much bigger problem for us than c.


Sorry but no. When Rudy is off (not even off the floor, just not playing well,) we are doomed. We cannot rebound, defend the rim, and cannot defend the perimeter because we need to collapse to try and recover for the lack of interior defense.

We also badly need an offensive system that promotes ball movement. That requires a coach who knows how to employ an actual offense.


Lol, I guess you are right. I've been complaining about backup center from game 1. Thinking a good pg would keep Randle and Ant from thinking they need to create so much. And yes, Ball. Movement.

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