2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

[contract]

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

Herro has not developed wonderully. Herro is the same Herro he's always been. Still dominating the ball. Still taking way more shots that he should. He's averaging 6 more FG attempts per game than our best player.

If this was true Jimmy would've gotten his extension with no conversation.

If what was true? What does Herro's improvement or lack of improvement have to do with Jimmy getting a contract extension? Jimmy is 35 years old either way.

[twix2500]

My ideal of what the Heat should do this year if trading Butler. Get draft picks and a high level role player. So if I’m the Heat it’s either Denver or Warriors. Get a platoon of picks and get either Wiggins or Porter Jr. Play all the young guys and deal with the bumps and bruises win or lose. Do not trade Rozier this yr, let his expiring contract next season be an asset. Next year when assets are replenished go after a third go too player rather it’s Ingram, Fox or Markkanen.

Trade Burke and get a 2nd round pick this yr

[Beenie]

Can we agree that once Jimmy eventually leaves the team that it will have no real impact on Bam’s production

The guy simply doesn’t want to be the focus on offense nor is he good enough to warrant that

And he knows it

[twix2500]

My ideal of what the Heat should do this year if trading Butler. Get draft picks and a high level role player. So if I’m the Heat it’s either Denver or Warriors. Get a platoon of picks and get either Wiggins or Porter Jr. Play all the young guys and deal with the bumps and bruises win or lose. Do not trade Rozier this yr, let his expiring contract next season be an asset. Next year when assets are replenished go after a third go too player rather it’s Ingram, Fox or Markkanen.

Trade Burke and get a 2nd round pick this yr

And when true big time star becomes available then you throw the kitchen sink in for that player including Bam and Herro

[Dmcdani6]

Denver makes the most sense. If you can get MPJ, I think hes the best one mentioned. Can Denver offer any picks tho?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Again, if fans made decisions for this organisation we’d be f*cked every season. Just catching up, reading through pages here made my eyes bleed.

Riles will not just merely throw away the player that’s helped us stay competitive. We either maximise a worthy return or we keep him. Look how many trade rumours Herro was in & he’s still here. We don’t just trade for sh*t. Herro in turn has developed wonderfully. I trust in our FO even through all the nonsense lounge room GM’s post on the regular.

Herro has not developed wonderully. Herro is the same Herro he's always been. Still dominating the ball. Still taking way more shots that he should. He's averaging 6 more FG attempts per game than our best player.

If this was true Jimmy would've gotten his extension with no conversation.

Herro having a good stretch has nothing to do with Jimmy’s extension lol.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Can we agree that once Jimmy eventually leaves the team that it will have no real impact on Bam’s production

The guy simply doesn’t want to be the focus on offense nor is he good enough to warrant that

And he knows it

It probably won’t because Spo has his way of wanting to do things but Bam averages like 22-11-5 of something over the last 4-5 seasons when Jimmy is out. The other stuff is simply not true, he’s stated multiple times of wanting to have a bigger role on offense and he actually did until we got Terry, he was averaging 22-11-4 until we got him last year. Hes also talked about sacrificing what he wants to play the way the team needs (basically every needs screens to consistently score).

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There’s also this. Back to back games of Bam scoring a quick 7 and then going to the bench 5 minutes in because that’s Spos rotation. He comes back out and he’s not involved at all. This team has no playmaker to work with him whatsoever outside of an occasional pass from Duncan/Herro but they miss several lobs nightly

[al bondiga]

Something just ocurred to me... What are the possibilities that Bam is under performing just to get rid of jb?

[unowen85]

Can we agree that once Jimmy eventually leaves the team that it will have no real impact on Bam’s production

The guy simply doesn’t want to be the focus on offense nor is he good enough to warrant that

And he knows it

I think he’s under intense pressure to produce following the extension and Jimmy not having got one. I think once Butler leaves, we’ll have stress-free, happy Bam back, playing with more confidence. And then numbers will go up to normal.

[Beenie]

Can we agree that once Jimmy eventually leaves the team that it will have no real impact on Bam’s production

The guy simply doesn’t want to be the focus on offense nor is he good enough to warrant that

And he knows it

I think he’s under intense pressure to produce following the extension and Jimmy not having got one. I think once Butler leaves, we’ll have stress-free, happy Bam back, playing with more confidence. And then numbers will go up to normal.

I’m not having the excuses

Jimmy’s out

Jokic and Embid aren’t on the opposite side floor

So go dominate, Mr face of the franchise

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Can we agree that once Jimmy eventually leaves the team that it will have no real impact on Bam’s production

The guy simply doesn’t want to be the focus on offense nor is he good enough to warrant that

And he knows it

I think he’s under intense pressure to produce following the extension and Jimmy not having got one. I think once Butler leaves, we’ll have stress-free, happy Bam back, playing with more confidence. And then numbers will go up to normal.

I’m not having the excuses

Jimmy’s out

Jokic and Embid aren’t on the opposite side floor

So go dominate, Mr face of the franchise

Give him the ball and run sets for him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Your face of the franchise is the best defender in the world, leads the team in every statistic basically (rebounds, assists, blocks, steals), and has a history of averaging around 20 a game (22 last season before he was asked to sacrifice his game for the mediocre Terry because we had to justify sending a 1st for him), he’s also tasked with getting guys like Duncan and Herro open looks off screens and DHOs so they can be effective. TBH it doesn’t matter what he does because we’ll just keep moving the goal post. He had shaky start efficiency wise but he’s also seen his usage plummet and it’s hard to find and keep a rhythm when you’re barely being used as a scorer and when you are it’s mostly out of isolation over multiple defenders because you are the teams best playmaker as a center and don’t have anyone to help produce solid looks consistently. #FreeBam

Imagine being asked to sacrifice your game for your team to be the definition of mediocrity

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This teams last chance to get someone meaningful

[MettaWorldPanda]

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This teams last chance to get someone meaningful

If the Spurs want him it’s over bud. We don’t have the ammo to compete with them.

[wade44]

Yeah we get easily outbid

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This teams last chance to get someone meaningful

If the Spurs want him it’s over bud. We don’t have the ammo to compete with them.

Let’s see what Fox and Klutch want. Realistically almost every team should want him but that’s not how it works, time will tell. TRUST THE GODFATHER

[VaDe255]

Fox is expiring next year, it really doesn't matter how much teams have to offer, if he simply says he won't resign with them

[wade44]

Fox is expiring next year, it really doesn't matter how much teams have to offer, if he simply says he won't resign with them

Why would he leave tens of millions on the table by not re-signing with the team that trades for him? People said the same thing about Donovan Mitchell only for him to stay long term with cavs

[VaDe255]

Fox is expiring next year, it really doesn't matter how much teams have to offer, if he simply says he won't resign with them

Why would he leave tens of millions on the table by not re-signing with the team that trades for him? People said the same thing about Donovan Mitchell

Players leave money on the table all the time for situations they prefer, whether it's better team fit, bigger market, or lifestyle reasons. Fox might value being in a winning environment or playing somewhere he truly wants over squeezing out the max. It's not always just about the money.

Kawhi is a good example because he left the Toronto Raptors after winning a championship in 2019, despite the Raptors being able to offer him a supermax deal worth significantly more than any other team.
Kyrie left the Boston Celtics despite them being able to offer him more money.

Not every player is the same and I have no idea what Fox might do, but he holds the cards when it comes to where he wants to end up.

[wade44]

Fox is expiring next year, it really doesn't matter how much teams have to offer, if he simply says he won't resign with them

Why would he leave tens of millions on the table by not re-signing with the team that trades for him? People said the same thing about Donovan Mitchell

Players leave money on the table all the time for situations they prefer, whether it's better team fit, bigger market, or lifestyle reasons. Fox might value being in a winning environment or playing somewhere he truly wants over squeezing out the max. It's not always just about the money.

Kawhi is a good example because he left the Toronto Raptors after winning a championship in 2019, despite the Raptors being able to offer him a supermax deal worth significantly more than any other team.

Kyrie left the Boston Celtics and despite them being able to offer him more money than he ultimately got elsewhere.

Not every player is the same and I have no idea what Fox might do, but he holds the cards when it comes to where he wants to end up.

There have been exceptions but in this day and age, most agents convince their clients to take the biggest amount of money offered. I don’t see him saying trade me to the Heat or nowhere. This isn’t a Lillard situation where Lillard already made hundreds of millions and was already on a long term deal when he asked for Heat