BKN - LAC - POR - SAC (DeRozan on the Move Part II)

[bpcox05]

For OP,

I think a Carter/Huerter for DFS/Sharpe deal is much simpler/cleaner

I think that’s an overpay on the Kings side. DFS is worth a few 2nds and Sharpe is neutral at best. I wouldn’t give up a lottery pick for that type of package.

Sharpe is probably worth a second or 2.
Huertrr is negative matching.
Carter is no longer worth a lotto pick (esp in a weak draft) after not playing a single game

I guess you and I think of Carter’s value differently.

He was taken 13th while injured. How much higher would he have gone if he was fully healthy at the time of the draft? The Blazers have the luxury of trading for a player that likely would have gone higher than 13 without needing to let him rehab and sit on the bench.

I typically think players hold more value when they are not injured (or closer to coming back from an injury) vs. when they are injured. But maybe that’s just me?

[Texas Chuck]

I think the bigger issue is that teams value prospects differently. Maybe Portland likes him, but no guarantees that his value holds or goes up when basically every drafted player is worth less than after they are picked than before. Because when they represent a draft slot that team gets their first choice of every player available. Now you just get the one guy actually selected. Most of the time that other team will not value him as highly as your team because your team liked him best out of all players available. Unlikely that deep into the draft that Portland's board was the same.

[bpcox05]

I think the bigger issue is that teams value prospects differently. Maybe Portland likes him, but no guarantees that his value holds or goes up when basically every drafted player is worth less than after they are picked than before. Because when they represent a draft slot that team gets their first choice of every player available. Now you just get the one guy actually selected. Most of the time that other team will not value him as highly as your team because your team liked him best out of all players available. Unlikely that deep into the draft that Portland's board was the same.

Sure, I get all of that. Value is in the eye of the beholder at the end of the day, but considering…

- That Carter was seen as a steal where he was taken
- That he likely would have gone higher than #13 if it wasn’t for his injury
- That his injury is for the most part rehabbed (he’s expected to return to action before the trade deadline)

…I don’t really consider his value to have dipped since we drafted him. In fact, there’s a case to be made that it has increased since he’ll be back from injury.

[Texas Chuck]

See we talk a lot about steals. We went through this with Cam Whitmore and now we have Rockets posters suggesting him as the main value piece for stars(he isn't. He absolutely isn't). But the reality is the market spoke and that player was drafted where they were. Now one could argue none of the teams at the top of the draft loved him but maybe all the teams at the bottom or without picks did.

The problem with that though is they could have easily traded into what was widely perceived as a poor draft to take him ahead of the Kings, but nobody did.

So while on talent you feel he is more talented than some guys picked above him, all draft prospects at that point have warts and different teams have different views on which warts are worse. Portland in particular could be leery of injury wart or off-court warts because of their history. Maybe not, but maybe.

I would personally have his value much lower than his draft slot. But I also freely admit I spend very little time scouting draft prospects and when I am high on guys other than Luka Doncic(and that one wasn't remotely hard lol) I'm typically really wrong.

[Blazinaway]

Portland needs much more

Don't see Portland going for this. Hard to see this for any of the teams except Sac.

- a lottery pick from this most recent draft
- $9 mil in cap savings this year
- $80 mil in cap savings over the next 3 years

Considering what POR is giving up, the return seems more than justified.

Agreed. This version I do. Not the DeRozan version.

I'd do it as well, given how crappy Scoot is looking not a bad idea to have another young guard in the mix and for sure would then trade Ant if we could, we get rid of a lot of salary and move JG, win/win IMO

[Tim Lehrbach]

Methinks the Blazers fans passing on this are too attached to Timelord. I do this to get off Grant's final two years a take a look at Carter, who really can't be any worse than Henderson. If you don't want Huerter and Tucker, just waive them and eat their salaries, and sign G-League replacements.