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Post#261 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:40 am

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Not even halfway through the season and they're done with him :lol:


Yet, he was here 5 years, and I echoed those thoughts pretty much right away. I got to see him in person for the first time right before the pandemic when the Lakers came to MSG and just watching him mope around and how **** his body language was pretty much at all times was shocking. Then, I absolutely hated how the ball stopped when it got to him, no hockey assists, no swinging it just hit the brakes and stop. The Randle experience in person was horrendous.


We are now triple blessed:

We got KAT

We dumped Randle

We don't have to argue with tools about Randle any more, because WTF are they going to say now?
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Post#262 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:44 am

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Not even halfway through the season and they're done with him :lol:


Yet, he was here 5 years, and I echoed those thoughts pretty much right away. I got to see him in person for the first time right before the pandemic when the Lakers came to MSG and just watching him mope around and how **** his body language was pretty much at all times was shocking. Then, I absolutely hated how the ball stopped when it got to him, no hockey assists, no swinging it just hit the brakes and stop. The Randle experience in person was horrendous.


See, I saw King Julius play at Moda. Locked in and just a bully.

You just never knew when you were getting King Julius and when you were getting Wandle. You could get a game of Wandle. A week. A season. But one was a legit all nba player and the other was a guy you'd dump for peanuts.

Looks like it's been all Wandle so far in Minny. Oh wellsky.



That's who he's always been, but they don't have the offensive rebounding to make up for how inefficient and damaging his offense actually is.

At his best, you had to give him borderline superstar amounts of touches per game, and even after that your offense would be a clunky mess that relied on offensive rebounding to get by.
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Post#263 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:47 am

The issue any coach has with Randle is he's a bratty little child so if you do hold him accountable you are risking losing him entirely and instead of getting some offensive production, you end up with a morose weirdo you can barely play.

Randle is a front-runner. When he's scoring, he's grinning. When he isn't, he's bitter and aloof.

Meanwhile, that MF may be the worst defensive player in the NBA.

Even worse is he's the worst defensive player in the NBA not because he can't play defense, but because he's a selfish bum who is 100% a stat whore with zero concern for doing what it takes to win.

Sorry Minny, he's your problem now. Randle sucks
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Post#264 » by Capn'O » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:52 am

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Not even halfway through the season and they're done with him :lol:


Yet, he was here 5 years, and I echoed those thoughts pretty much right away. I got to see him in person for the first time right before the pandemic when the Lakers came to MSG and just watching him mope around and how **** his body language was pretty much at all times was shocking. Then, I absolutely hated how the ball stopped when it got to him, no hockey assists, no swinging it just hit the brakes and stop. The Randle experience in person was horrendous.


See, I saw King Julius play at Moda. Locked in and just a bully.

You just never knew when you were getting King Julius and when you were getting Wandle. You could get a game of Wandle. A week. A season. But one was a legit all nba player and the other was a guy you'd dump for peanuts.

Looks like it's been all Wandle so far in Minny. Oh wellsky.



That's who he's always been, but they don't have the offensive rebounding to make up for how inefficient and damaging his offense actually is.

At his best, you had to give him borderline superstar amounts of touches per game, and even after that your offense would be a clunky mess that relied on offensive rebounding to get by.


I would also say JB kept him in a lane. He had that horrendous year in 21-22, then two years where he actually had a positive net rating, and now another bloodsucker year. Creating secondary offense out of quick actions... he could be pretty good. But Conley's not good enough anymore to keep him in his lane. Spin spin clank. Spin spin turnover. A lot of that.

Again, oh wellsky.
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Post#265 » by Adelheid » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:54 am

may need the husk of jason kidd or chris paul to keep him in his lane
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Post#266 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:57 am

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Post#267 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:00 am

Capn'O wrote:
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See, I saw King Julius play at Moda. Locked in and just a bully.

You just never knew when you were getting King Julius and when you were getting Wandle. You could get a game of Wandle. A week. A season. But one was a legit all nba player and the other was a guy you'd dump for peanuts.

Looks like it's been all Wandle so far in Minny. Oh wellsky.



That's who he's always been, but they don't have the offensive rebounding to make up for how inefficient and damaging his offense actually is.

At his best, you had to give him borderline superstar amounts of touches per game, and even after that your offense would be a clunky mess that relied on offensive rebounding to get by.


I would also say JB kept him in a lane. He had that horrendous year in 21-22, then two years where he actually had a positive net rating, and now another bloodsucker year. Creating secondary offense out of quick actions... he could be pretty good. But Conley's not good enough anymore to keep him in his lane. Spin spin clank. Spin spin turnover. A lot of that.

Again, oh wellsky.


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Post#268 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:00 am

JULIUS RANDLE SUCKS MOOSE DICKS!!!!
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Post#269 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:06 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote: JULIUS RANDLE SUCKS MOOSE DICKS!!!!


This is a false rumor. He eats his own boogers
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Post#270 » by Parraknick » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:22 am

The sad paradox is that the only role Julius could be a net positive at, is simply something he would not accept.

It’ll be so interesting to see what offers he gets next season.
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Post#272 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:28 am

Parraknick wrote:The sad paradox is that the only role Julius could be a net positive at, is simply something he would not accept.

It’ll be so interesting to see what offers he gets next season.



Bench 4/5 sixth man type big. 17.5 mil per. Max.
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Post#273 » by JayTWill » Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:04 am

Yeah, I always thought Randle would be ok in a Bobby Portis role but that conversation got shot down by many since he was an "All-star/All-NBA" and a team couldn't possibly be better with him coming off the bench in a lesser role.

I always wondered how a coach like Pop or a franchise like the Heat with Riley/Spo and a stronger personality like Jimmy's would deal with Randle. Thibs has a reputation as a no nonsense coach but he pretty much allowed Randle to do whatever he wanted. Was he always a moody player? I can't imagine Kobe would have put up with some of the behavior we saw here over the years.

I wanted him gone since his 3rd year in New York but I still hope he finds a way to be a positive contributor on a good team somehow. He is talented but he is incredibly frustrating to have on your team.
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Post#274 » by JayTWill » Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:19 am

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I don't think that's really fair at least in terms of these past playoffs. He had good series against Phoenix and defending champ Denver. He struggled against Dallas. Randle has yet to record a single positive playoff series. With Towns you can really chalk that up to matchup difficulties rather than getting psyched out by the playoffs. The Mavs forced him to play the perimeter and switch a bunch and that plays into his weaknesses. But his defense and %s were very good against the other two teams, Wolves were just playing through Ant because Ant was dominating everyone.

With Towns, it's more a matter that there are certain matchups and offensive/defensive styles that can exploit him. Which we've seen this year as well. He outplayed both Embiid and Jokic but got picked apart by Utah and Dallas (again). Sure, it's a weird thing to say that he has a harder time with PJ Washington than he does with Jokic but... he has a harder time with PJ Washington than he does against Jokic.


I understand but the bottom line is if he’s a great player as we know he is then he’ll adjust and play better. If we want to win a title we can’t have Towns get shut down by the likes of PJ Washington in the playoffs. He’ll have to step up and play better in those situations. He’s getting paid $60 million. He has to figure that out.


For sure. But it's more a general weakness against big wing type 4s than it is a playoffs issue.

We're seeing it right now v the Pels.


How do you feel about playing KAT at the 4? Some people think the team would be better with Mitch at the 5 but i'm not sure if the defensive advantages will outweigh the offensive advantages.
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Post#275 » by Jose7 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:49 am

Jose7 wrote:no julius randle is the greatest thing about 2025 knicks season so far


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Post#277 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:23 am

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not arguing whether or not people should be fans of either player. just pointing out that the bold is untrue. these guys got big contracts. maybe bigger than some believe deserved. maybe more impactful strategically. but certainly not every dime they could get. in melo's case, specifically for the purpose of enabling moves. same idea as brunson to a much lesser degree. so, there's some respect that should come with that.


Well in fairness to melo you can’t totally blame him for taking what was offered. The organization made bad moves for years, gave him a bad contract, and should not have added a no trade clause to it and never had put him in such a position to begin with. So the pre-Leon front office deserves more of the blame for what went wrong than the player for not wanting to take less or waive his no trade clause just to bail them out. They also didn’t have the foresight to realize the game was moving away from the outdated way that melo played basketball

Conversely we don’t have to blame anybody for Randle because it ended in a positive outcome, the team started from the post-Melo cellar and improved for years to become a playoff team and then traded him to improve once again by trading him for a great value. There’s nothing to complain about from an organization standpoint really other than just a personal dislike for the guy or aspects of his game we didn’t like to watch. I don’t think I’d have done anything differently, I like having towns here


The danger with such high usage players when you run your offense through them the offense can stagnate. I think Melo was more impactful when he was a younger Nugget with a better roster than the ones he had on the Knicks. By the time he came to the Knicks he no longer played with the same athleticism and he become more of a ball stopper.

Melo was wasted on inferior Knicks teams. I always felt his greatest impact would have been as a 6th man on a contender. His ego couldn't have handled that, but that was the perfect role for him at the point of his career when he came to the Knicks. It doesn't matter now, but he could've won a ring for himself if he went to a contender and took more of a supporting role.

Melo's game was too flawed to build a championship team around him as the # 1 option. He was a mercenary scorer who needed a better player to mentor and guide him and mold his game to the team's needs. In reality, Melo was happier being the big fish in a small pond like lesser Knicks teams than he would have been subjugating his ego to a player like Lebron which would have done him a world of good.

I don't consider Melo a winner because he was most interested in his stats and his money. If he was really that selfless he wouldn't have put off surgery just to get another all-star game nod. That was just pathetic. He was always a me-first player.

Randle, on the other hand, might be able to thrive as a sixth man. It could be worth trying. He's very much a first quarter player as we saw once again last night, so I don't know if you can come off the bench at all. But you really cannot build a contender with an offense that goes through Randle. That will get you nowhere.

KAT, though, is the perfect guy to touch the ball almost every time you have possession. He just makes things happen. He's the anti-thesis of both Randle and Melo.


Melo only cared about his wallet and his stats. Absolutely hated watching him, had he taken less money in those contract years, he could have put an actual team around him. If the goal is longevity and to win rings, why not take less money for a bit to do so, it could have paid off in the long run before he and the Knicks unceremoniously parted ways. Melo was the best player on a team that should have gone further than it did. It was hard rooting for a guy you just felt would never hit the big shots.
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Post#278 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:26 am

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JBreezeNY wrote:**** that and **** him.

He was a paid mercenary.

He got his gold in blood, he gets no praise for that.

Selfish sniveling pouting lunatic.

Randle is who those who hate on Melo think he is.


the difference between Julius and Melo was that Melo had an offensive bag and scored at a higher clip, but they were both selfish


Melo had WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY less help than Randle did. Can you **** imagine what prime Melo would have done at PF with even the 22-23 roster? Holy crap we'd be unstoppable.


Yea, but that would have never have happened because selfish Melo would have taken all the cash in contract negotiations to prevent a team like the 22-23 roster to even be around him :lol: :lol:
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Post#279 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:35 am

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Well in fairness to melo you can’t totally blame him for taking what was offered. The organization made bad moves for years, gave him a bad contract, and should not have added a no trade clause to it and never had put him in such a position to begin with. So the pre-Leon front office deserves more of the blame for what went wrong than the player for not wanting to take less or waive his no trade clause just to bail them out. They also didn’t have the foresight to realize the game was moving away from the outdated way that melo played basketball

Conversely we don’t have to blame anybody for Randle because it ended in a positive outcome, the team started from the post-Melo cellar and improved for years to become a playoff team and then traded him to improve once again by trading him for a great value. There’s nothing to complain about from an organization standpoint really other than just a personal dislike for the guy or aspects of his game we didn’t like to watch. I don’t think I’d have done anything differently, I like having towns here


The danger with such high usage players when you run your offense through them the offense can stagnate. I think Melo was more impactful when he was a younger Nugget with a better roster than the ones he had on the Knicks. By the time he came to the Knicks he no longer played with the same athleticism and he become more of a ball stopper.

Melo was wasted on inferior Knicks teams. I always felt his greatest impact would have been as a 6th man on a contender. His ego couldn't have handled that, but that was the perfect role for him at the point of his career when he came to the Knicks. It doesn't matter now, but he could've won a ring for himself if he went to a contender and took more of a supporting role.

Melo's game was too flawed to build a championship team around him as the # 1 option. He was a mercenary scorer who needed a better player to mentor and guide him and mold his game to the team's needs. In reality, Melo was happier being the big fish in a small pond like lesser Knicks teams than he would have been subjugating his ego to a player like Lebron which would have done him a world of good.

I don't consider Melo a winner because he was most interested in his stats and his money. If he was really that selfless he wouldn't have put off surgery just to get another all-star game nod. That was just pathetic. He was always a me-first player.

Randle, on the other hand, might be able to thrive as a sixth man. It could be worth trying. He's very much a first quarter player as we saw once again last night, so I don't know if you can come off the bench at all. But you really cannot build a contender with an offense that goes through Randle. That will get you nowhere.

KAT, though, is the perfect guy to touch the ball almost every time you have possession. He just makes things happen. He's the anti-thesis of both Randle and Melo.


Melo only cared about his wallet and his stats. Absolutely hated watching him, had he taken less money in those contract years, he could have put an actual team around him. If the goal is longevity and to win rings, why not take less money for a bit to do so, it could have paid off in the long run before he and the Knicks unceremoniously parted ways. Melo was the best player on a team that should have gone further than it did. It was hard rooting for a guy you just felt would never hit the big shots.


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