Is there a market for CJ McCollum?

[Duffman100]

Raps would need some incentive to take on the extra year.

CJ's contract will make the Raptors a tax paying team next year.

So major incentive

[YayBasketball]

Yea Pistons are the only team that seems really viable to trade for him. Lakers could make sense, but they likely want a better splash with the DLo, Vincenct/Rui contracts. Magic want to keep KCP, Goga, Mo, etc. I found one that could work, would have to stack many salaries to jusy get to matching salary:

Magic trade: Anthony, G. Harris, Jett, Joseph
Magic get: McCullom, 2 min. salaries (JRE/Theis/Jevonte/Reeves/Karlo)

*Alvarado signed an extension, has a trade restriction or no? Spotrac says he has no restriction, fanspo says can't be traded til after the deadline.

Other than that, Pistons would be the only hope that Langdon wants McCullom's "veteran leadership) in the form of high level floor spacer for Cade. But how much more valuable is CJ than THJ/Beasley while factoring in Ivey's playing time.

If Ingram gets traded for expirings or just let walk in free agency, then CJ's 30m contract could be a nice trade chip next season to use to improve.

[Canadafan]

Way too much IMO

I think that McCollum is close to neutral value. Most of the value that Detroit would give to trade for him would be taking on the extra salary (some this year, $30M next) so i wouldn't want to give up draft compensation, a rookie or a young rotation player

As an example

Hardaway + Beasley ($22.2M, then expire) for McCollum ($33.3M, $30M)

works on spotrac

This trade saves NOP $11.1M this year and $30M next year. If DET can save NOP a total of $41M is salary, I honestly wonder if the extra compensation shouldn't be going in DET's direction instead of towards NOP. I definitely wouldn't want to throw in a draft pick or Klintman on top of that.

Beasley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klintman and a 2nd. That's an insanely bad trade for detroit. The guys top 10 again in 3's made and shooting 41% from deep.

I agree that Beasley is playing great, and is more valuable than Klintman + SRP. However, Beasley is expiring, I doubt he's with us next season, and I don't think DET has much reason to try to win on the efforts of its vets like Tobias/THJ/Beasley anyway.

But my major point is that DET should be mostly targeting trades where we leverage our financial flexibility to pick up assets, and I'm just not OK with taking back extra salary as well as sending out pick or rookies. We absolutely shouldn't be giving assets in "win-now" moves IMO.

Take out the 2nd and Klintman then. Pelicans should be motivated to just dump his contract.
THJr+Moore for CJ saves them $30million next year!
Or if they want Fontecchio instead of Moore
Or Paul Reed
Or Sasser
I personally have no problem using a 2nd and Klintman to make the deal as I don't see either being a big deal but I understand some people's concerns trading future "assets"

[Kalamazoo317]

Not sure we can trade Reed before the deadline after the salaray cap gymnastics we did with him.

[Euphonetiks]

Beasley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Klintman and a 2nd. That's an insanely bad trade for detroit. The guys top 10 again in 3's made and shooting 41% from deep.

I agree that Beasley is playing great, and is more valuable than Klintman + SRP. However, Beasley is expiring, I doubt he's with us next season, and I don't think DET has much reason to try to win on the efforts of its vets like Tobias/THJ/Beasley anyway.

But my major point is that DET should be mostly targeting trades where we leverage our financial flexibility to pick up assets, and I'm just not OK with taking back extra salary as well as sending out pick or rookies. We absolutely shouldn't be giving assets in "win-now" moves IMO.

Take out the 2nd and Klintman then. Pelicans should be motivated to just dump his contract.
THJr+Moore for CJ saves them $30million next year!
Or if they want Fontecchio instead of Moore
Or Paul Reed
Or Sasser
I personally have no problem using a 2nd and Klintman to make the deal as I don't see either being a big deal but I understand some people's concerns trading future "assets"

With Ingram on the way out, the Pels cap situation is not dire. I think they’d keep CJ over dumping him for nothing. Unless an Ingram trade brings back long term money the Pels are at $157M with 10 players under contract for next season.

Don’t see the Pels dumping CJ to make space for free agency considering that we almost always have to overpay to lure free agents.

[Canadafan]

I agree that Beasley is playing great, and is more valuable than Klintman + SRP. However, Beasley is expiring, I doubt he's with us next season, and I don't think DET has much reason to try to win on the efforts of its vets like Tobias/THJ/Beasley anyway.

But my major point is that DET should be mostly targeting trades where we leverage our financial flexibility to pick up assets, and I'm just not OK with taking back extra salary as well as sending out pick or rookies. We absolutely shouldn't be giving assets in "win-now" moves IMO.

Take out the 2nd and Klintman then. Pelicans should be motivated to just dump his contract.
THJr+Moore for CJ saves them $30million next year!
Or if they want Fontecchio instead of Moore
Or Paul Reed
Or Sasser
I personally have no problem using a 2nd and Klintman to make the deal as I don't see either being a big deal but I understand some people's concerns trading future "assets"

With Ingram on the way out, the Pels cap situation is not dire. I think they’d keep CJ over dumping him for nothing. Unless an Ingram trade brings back long term money the Pels are at $157M with 10 players under contract for next season.

Don’t see the Pels dumping CJ to make space for free agency considering that we almost always have to overpay to lure free agents.

We can take Imgram off your hands then

[YayBasketball]

I agree that Beasley is playing great, and is more valuable than Klintman + SRP. However, Beasley is expiring, I doubt he's with us next season, and I don't think DET has much reason to try to win on the efforts of its vets like Tobias/THJ/Beasley anyway.

But my major point is that DET should be mostly targeting trades where we leverage our financial flexibility to pick up assets, and I'm just not OK with taking back extra salary as well as sending out pick or rookies. We absolutely shouldn't be giving assets in "win-now" moves IMO.

Take out the 2nd and Klintman then. Pelicans should be motivated to just dump his contract.
THJr+Moore for CJ saves them $30million next year!
Or if they want Fontecchio instead of Moore
Or Paul Reed
Or Sasser
I personally have no problem using a 2nd and Klintman to make the deal as I don't see either being a big deal but I understand some people's concerns trading future "assets"

With Ingram on the way out, the Pels cap situation is not dire. I think they’d keep CJ over dumping him for nothing. Unless an Ingram trade brings back long term money the Pels are at $157M with 10 players under contract for next season.

Don’t see the Pels dumping CJ to make space for free agency considering that we almost always have to overpay to lure free agents.

Right, but keeping CJ limits the Ingram trade return for only expiring contracts or letting him walk in free agency. If they have an Ingram offer that includes taking back multi-year contracts (like MPJ), then clearing CJ for expiring contracts only make a lot of sense.

[Monky15]

NOP out: CJ, JRE, Theis
NOP in: Hardaway, Fontecchio, Saric
NOP get below the tax line, create a nice TPE and Hardaway is a solid vet presence.

Detroit out: Hardaway, Fontecchio, Harris, Ivey
Detroit in: MPJ, McCollum
Detroit takes this opportunity to upgrade one of their forwards by sending out a more replaceable combo guard in Ivey.

Denver out: MPJ, Nnaji, Saric
Denver in: Harris, Sexton, JRE
Denver gets older but deeper while shedding Nnaji.

Utah out: Sexton
Utah in: Nnaji, Ivey, Theis
Utah takes on Nnaji hoping Ivey develops into a higher tier player than the likes of Sexton, CJ.

[Toine85]

I could see something with the Cavs, especially since David Griffin has a pre-existing relationship with the Cleveland organization. Perhaps LaVert, Strus, and 3 second rounders (or Jaylon Dyson) for CJ McCollum?

Cavs bring CJ home to NE Ohio for a title run and all they give up is an expiring in LaVert (who would probably be bought out by NOP), a bad contract in Max Strus, and picks (or non-rotational prospect).

[R-DAWG]

The Lakers seem to make the most sense. Swap CJ for Russell - two guards who have not had a great start to the season and could benefit from the change of scenery. LA would need to include both Vincent and Hood Schifino to make the math work.

[R-DAWG]

I could see something with the Cavs, especially since David Griffin has a pre-existing relationship with the Cleveland organization. Perhaps LaVert, Strus, and 3 second rounders (or Jaylon Dyson) for CJ McCollum?

Cavs bring CJ home to NE Ohio for a title run and all they give up is an expiring in LaVert (who would probably be bought out by NOP), a bad contract in Max Strus, and picks (or non-rotational prospect).

Value wise this is kind of interesting, but with Garland and Mitchell on the roster are there enough minutes for McCollum. At least you can play Strus at SF.

[Euphonetiks]

Take out the 2nd and Klintman then. Pelicans should be motivated to just dump his contract.
THJr+Moore for CJ saves them $30million next year!
Or if they want Fontecchio instead of Moore
Or Paul Reed
Or Sasser
I personally have no problem using a 2nd and Klintman to make the deal as I don't see either being a big deal but I understand some people's concerns trading future "assets"

With Ingram on the way out, the Pels cap situation is not dire. I think they’d keep CJ over dumping him for nothing. Unless an Ingram trade brings back long term money the Pels are at $157M with 10 players under contract for next season.

Don’t see the Pels dumping CJ to make space for free agency considering that we almost always have to overpay to lure free agents.

Right, but keeping CJ limits the Ingram trade return for only expiring contracts or letting him walk in free agency. If they have an Ingram offer that includes taking back multi-year contracts (like MPJ), then clearing CJ for expiring contracts only make a lot of sense.

It limits the Ingram trade to taking back no more than $30M in 25-26 salary if they want to stay under the tax. If some Ingram deal develops where we are taking back a $30M+ salary, then the Pels could dump CJ, but I don’t see them dumping CJ beforehand to open that option.

[shrink]

If there is a market for CJ, I think it’s called “Nordstrom Rack”