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Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million

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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#881 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:57 pm

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I’m a big fan of Gradey but he’s averaging 18/3/2 with poor defense. IQ contributes much more across the board.

You need to dig much deeper into the numbers and not just look at box score stats. For example, Herro and Wemby aren’t comparable players because they average the same amount of points.

32.5M vs 5.3M, those are the only numbers I see.


Can't argue your logic there, we should expect 6x the performance for 6x the salary.

It's bad asset allocation. Why are we spending that much on a 3rd/4th option? Wouldn't it be better to bundle that salary with some picks and try to turn it into a 1st option?
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#882 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:48 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:32.5M vs 5.3M, those are the only numbers I see.


Can't argue your logic there, we should expect 6x the performance for 6x the salary.

It's bad asset allocation. Why are we spending that much on a 3rd/4th option? Wouldn't it be better to bundle that salary with some picks and try to turn it into a 1st option?

Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#883 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:12 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
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Can't argue your logic there, we should expect 6x the performance for 6x the salary.

It's bad asset allocation. Why are we spending that much on a 3rd/4th option? Wouldn't it be better to bundle that salary with some picks and try to turn it into a 1st option?

Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).

I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#884 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:50 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:It's bad asset allocation. Why are we spending that much on a 3rd/4th option? Wouldn't it be better to bundle that salary with some picks and try to turn it into a 1st option?

Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).

I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.

It’s really not an overshot. He could easily over perform that deal and be underpaid by the 5th year.

For all we know he would’ve accepted less with less term to hit UFA earlier. We took the term to make sure he was ours long term.
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#885 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:03 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).

I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.

It’s really not an overshot. He could easily over perform that deal and be underpaid by the 5th year.

For all we know he would’ve accepted less with less term to hit UFA earlier. We took the term to make sure he was ours long term.

I just mean in terms of him starting as a bench player. He's got a lot out of what he has, I don't think there is much more room for growth at this point.

If he's fighting with Dick, Walter and even Battle going forward. It's a tight fit.
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#886 » by JustLucky » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:16 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).

I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.

It’s really not an overshot. He could easily over perform that deal and be underpaid by the 5th year.

For all we know he would’ve accepted less with less term to hit UFA earlier. We took the term to make sure he was ours long term.


oh by the 5th year? wow!!!! hes almost certainly going to miss a full year to injurys over this time frame
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#887 » by aminiaturebuddha » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:40 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:It's bad asset allocation. Why are we spending that much on a 3rd/4th option? Wouldn't it be better to bundle that salary with some picks and try to turn it into a 1st option?

Because they obviously are hoping he can be more than a 3rd/4th option.

But regardless, $32M is not outrageous for a 3rd/4th option anyways. Porzingis/Holiday made $30M each last year. MPJ made $30M in the Nuggets title year. Ibaka made $20M when we won (which is equivalent to closer to $30M in 2025 salaries).

By the time IQs contract is done, it would not shock me if he was the 4th/5th highest player on this team anyways (if he stays here all 5 years).

I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.


I don't think the fact that he was a 6th man means much other than opportunity. A lot of people thought that he was under-utilized in his role in New York.

Tracy McGradey and James Harden are both guys who spent the bulk of their first 3 seasons off the bench. And of course they became Hall of Famers. We don't need Quickley to reach that level, just to become a solid 2nd/3rd option on his team to become worth his contract in the current NBA. I don't think that's an unattainable goal at all.
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Re: Quickley Re-Signs 5yrs/$175 million 

Post#888 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:39 pm

JustLucky wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:I think it's a lot to ask, for a former 6th man. He's already overshot. I think it's ridiculous to pay that much, when we don't have a first option cemented in. He's more of a movable piece imo.

It’s really not an overshot. He could easily over perform that deal and be underpaid by the 5th year.

For all we know he would’ve accepted less with less term to hit UFA earlier. We took the term to make sure he was ours long term.


oh by the 5th year? wow!!!! hes almost certainly going to miss a full year to injurys over this time frame

Okay, and?

Yall see “32.5M” and ignore the fact the contract is flat. We pay more now to save in 5 years.
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