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Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle?

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#701 » by RHODEY » Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:57 pm

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Iron Mantis wrote:Some of the complimentary pieces have been moved to get the 3 & D power forward I said we needed, which proved to be OG.. And my vision for how KAT would unlock the offense has beautifully come to fruition. 8-)

I like Leon. We are both cut from the same cloth, you know. We are both guys who know ball.

Way to give yourself a pat on the back! :lol: But seriously we both predicted the future and I think we both were right. Bogs was a temporary fix that help us get more talent later on. You of course were right about Kat. I stil think I'm right about needing Mitch or atleast what he brings.... so really al 3 of us are guys who know ball :nod: l

If Mitch is not traded for a wing, he will be an invaluable piece off the bench. And when the matchup gives us an advantage, he will be playing alongside KAT, they will dominate.

Sometimes Precious looks like he doesn't know what to do with the ball when he is in the paint and KAT hits him with a pass from the high post.

I think Mitch is rising up and dunking that every time.

Yes Mitch will rise and dunk. I think Precious is still getting used to the new Knicks, I have no doubt that he can match last season's form with some more reps.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#702 » by Riot Randolph » Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:38 am

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I am looking at team salaries around the league.

It seems much easier to trade Mitch's $14.3 million deal for a big 3&D wing than it would be to trade Achiuwa's $6 million deal for one.

Especially when it comes to trading for a player that Thibs will give minutes to immediately.

Knicks can trade Mitch to the Lakers for Rui Hachimura. Thibs would trust Rui's talent level enough to play him a good amount of minutes.

I don't know if any winning team in the NBA right now is playing any less than four 3pt shooters at all times. Where maybe a few years ago, playing Achiuwa and Mitch together could work, it just might not work this season.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#703 » by ctorres » Wed Dec 25, 2024 1:32 am

Big FatKAT wrote:deni avdija please


Blazers would have to re-route Mitchell Robinson to a 3rd team, but I would definitely trade Mitch AND Dadiet for Avdija. Do we have any picks left to trade?

I don't know if Dadiet is ever going to get real minutes for the Knicks. He's only 19. We need guys in their early to mid 20's who can contribute on a contender immediately. Avdija is in his 5th season and is about to turn 24, so he is perfect.

Issue with Avdija is that the Knicks do not seem to have a pre-existing relationship with his agent.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Doug-Neustadt/24

3 team deal between the Blazers/Lakers/Knicks could work

Blazers get Dadiet and Hachimura
Knicks get Avdija
Lakers get Mitch and Jabari Walker
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#704 » by RHODEY » Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:16 am

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Big FatKAT wrote:deni avdija please


Blazers would have to re-route Mitchell Robinson to a 3rd team, but I would definitely trade Mitch AND Dadiet for Avdija. Do we have any picks left to trade?

I don't know if Dadiet is ever going to get real minutes for the Knicks. He's only 19. We need guys in their early to mid 20's who can contribute on a contender immediately. Avdija is in his 5th season and is about to turn 24, so he is perfect.

Issue with Avdija is that the Knicks do not seem to have a pre-existing relationship with his agent.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Doug-Neustadt/24

3 team deal between the Blazers/Lakers/Knicks could work

Blazers get Dadiet and Hachimura
Knicks get Avdija
Lakers get Mitch and Jabari Walker


You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#705 » by Calinks » Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:05 am

I have always been a KAT fan but it wasn't until we traded him that I realized he had a hidden attribute nobody ever talks about with players. Fun factor. Granted, there were some bad habits that KAT repeatedly displayed that drove me nuts but overall, dude just brings a huge element of joy and fun to the team. He plays with joy, he is a very pleasing to watch when he gets cooking, and his teammates always enjoy him (except Jimmy Butler). The knicks have been highly entertaining this season and the Timberwolves, even when they are winning games, are a hell of a lot more boring without Towns. It's a massive difference in fun factor.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#706 » by Guano » Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:36 am

Calinks wrote:I have always been a KAT fan but it wasn't until we traded him that I realized he had a hidden attribute nobody ever talks about with players. Fun factor. Granted, there were some bad habits that KAT repeatedly displayed that drove me nuts but overall, dude just brings a huge element of joy and fun to the team. He plays with joy, he is a very pleasing to watch when he gets cooking, and his teammates always enjoy him (except Jimmy Butler). The knicks have been highly entertaining this season and the Timberwolves, even when they are winning games, are a hell of a lot more boring without Towns. It's a massive difference in fun factor.


Kinda surprised to hear there is a drop off in joy in minny from swapping towns for randle.

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#707 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:30 am

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Calinks wrote:I have always been a KAT fan but it wasn't until we traded him that I realized he had a hidden attribute nobody ever talks about with players. Fun factor. Granted, there were some bad habits that KAT repeatedly displayed that drove me nuts but overall, dude just brings a huge element of joy and fun to the team. He plays with joy, he is a very pleasing to watch when he gets cooking, and his teammates always enjoy him (except Jimmy Butler). The knicks have been highly entertaining this season and the Timberwolves, even when they are winning games, are a hell of a lot more boring without Towns. It's a massive difference in fun factor.


Kinda surprised to hear there is a drop off in joy in minny from swapping towns for randle.

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#708 » by JBreezeNY » Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:20 am

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ctorres wrote:
Big FatKAT wrote:deni avdija please


Blazers would have to re-route Mitchell Robinson to a 3rd team, but I would definitely trade Mitch AND Dadiet for Avdija. Do we have any picks left to trade?

I don't know if Dadiet is ever going to get real minutes for the Knicks. He's only 19. We need guys in their early to mid 20's who can contribute on a contender immediately. Avdija is in his 5th season and is about to turn 24, so he is perfect.

Issue with Avdija is that the Knicks do not seem to have a pre-existing relationship with his agent.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Doug-Neustadt/24

3 team deal between the Blazers/Lakers/Knicks could work

Blazers get Dadiet and Hachimura
Knicks get Avdija
Lakers get Mitch and Jabari Walker


You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.

I feel going for big men to replace a big man, is archaic when you look at what the Celtics are doing. You really just need athletic wings that can hold their own weight. Jrue Holiday of all people can contain Joel Embiid.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#709 » by Montmorencie » Wed Dec 25, 2024 3:45 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Blazers would have to re-route Mitchell Robinson to a 3rd team, but I would definitely trade Mitch AND Dadiet for Avdija. Do we have any picks left to trade?

I don't know if Dadiet is ever going to get real minutes for the Knicks. He's only 19. We need guys in their early to mid 20's who can contribute on a contender immediately. Avdija is in his 5th season and is about to turn 24, so he is perfect.

Issue with Avdija is that the Knicks do not seem to have a pre-existing relationship with his agent.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Doug-Neustadt/24

3 team deal between the Blazers/Lakers/Knicks could work

Blazers get Dadiet and Hachimura
Knicks get Avdija
Lakers get Mitch and Jabari Walker


You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.

I feel going for big men to replace a big man, is archaic when you look at what the Celtics are doing. You really just need athletic wings that can hold their own weight. Jrue Holiday of all people can contain Joel Embiid.


Jrue Holiday got shredded by Jimmy Butler 2 years ago. Do not use overrated Joel to make a case for your argument.

Celtics got extremely lucky to dodge all the good big men in the League last year. I still wanna see them vs Jokic, Giannis and even Kat when they got help.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#710 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:59 pm

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#711 » by RHODEY » Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:28 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Blazers would have to re-route Mitchell Robinson to a 3rd team, but I would definitely trade Mitch AND Dadiet for Avdija. Do we have any picks left to trade?

I don't know if Dadiet is ever going to get real minutes for the Knicks. He's only 19. We need guys in their early to mid 20's who can contribute on a contender immediately. Avdija is in his 5th season and is about to turn 24, so he is perfect.

Issue with Avdija is that the Knicks do not seem to have a pre-existing relationship with his agent.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent_clients/Doug-Neustadt/24

3 team deal between the Blazers/Lakers/Knicks could work

Blazers get Dadiet and Hachimura
Knicks get Avdija
Lakers get Mitch and Jabari Walker


You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.

I feel going for big men to replace a big man, is archaic when you look at what the Celtics are doing. You really just need athletic wings that can hold their own weight. Jrue Holiday of all people can contain Joel Embiid.

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#712 » by Calinks » Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:30 pm

I'll add I don't think my team not being fun to watch right now all boils down to Julius. He plays a role but a larger part of it is just missing the vibe of Towns and his game. It was always exciting seeing what he would do. In the end it did get frustrating when he kept getting into foul trouble but as he cleaned that up in the later months of last season, it was very fun times seeing KAT work his magic and Ant growing every game. Was also tantalizing to think about how their two man game could develop and evolve because it never got effective.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#713 » by egelband » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:14 pm

Wolves getting Good Randle today (playing in front of friends and family in Dallas) and he looks terrific. Sad that he only brings it occasionally.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#714 » by dakomish23 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:27 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:It's not hard to see the immediate decline of KAT the second he's playing out of position next Gobert who clogs the floor.

Remove him from that type of situation, and he'll go back too all NBA level again.

You'd have to have a monster defensive F like prime Dray next to him and we don't. But if you only care about offense, he'll immediately be a 25 /10 guy on great efficiency.


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Post#715 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:11 am

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You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.

I feel going for big men to replace a big man, is archaic when you look at what the Celtics are doing. You really just need athletic wings that can hold their own weight. Jrue Holiday of all people can contain Joel Embiid.

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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#716 » by JBreezeNY » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:15 am

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You still need more than 1 true big on a team to go far. Especially when you consider the fact KAT is foul prone if he’s our only big that can easily be a disaster in the playoffs.

I feel going for big men to replace a big man, is archaic when you look at what the Celtics are doing. You really just need athletic wings that can hold their own weight. Jrue Holiday of all people can contain Joel Embiid.


Jrue Holiday got shredded by Jimmy Butler 2 years ago. Do not use overrated Joel to make a case for your argument.

Celtics got extremely lucky to dodge all the good big men in the League last year. I still wanna see them vs Jokic, Giannis and even Kat when they got help.

Jokic got contained by KAT in the playoffs does that mean Jokic isn’t a phenomenal offensive player? No.

And I will use Joel because is still 7 feet tall and a bully in the paint. Jrue is excellent with using his feet and upper body strength hence his ability to guard big men. Which iterates my point that getting a big man just for the replacement of a big man is an old way of thinking. Basketball has become position-less in a sense, if you can get a guy that can effectively guard big guys regardless of height, get him.
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Post#717 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:50 pm

egelband wrote:Wolves getting Good Randle today (playing in front of friends and family in Dallas) and he looks terrific. Sad that he only brings it occasionally.

He was really good with only very few instances of Dubious Handles sprinkled in. Blocked by Thompson on an iso-play. He doesn’t understand that he actively rests opposing players defensively if he doesn’t pass the ball.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#718 » by BKlutch » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:57 am

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egelband wrote:Wolves getting Good Randle today (playing in front of friends and family in Dallas) and he looks terrific. Sad that he only brings it occasionally.

He was really good with only very few instances of Dubious Handles sprinkled in. Blocked by Thompson on an iso-play. He doesn’t understand that he actively rests opposing players defensively if he doesn’t pass the ball.

He usually plays well against Dallas.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#719 » by dakomish23 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:39 pm

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egelband wrote:Wolves getting Good Randle today (playing in front of friends and family in Dallas) and he looks terrific. Sad that he only brings it occasionally.

He was really good with only very few instances of Dubious Handles sprinkled in. Blocked by Thompson on an iso-play. He doesn’t understand that he actively rests opposing players defensively if he doesn’t pass the ball.


20-21 Randle was really the best Randle. A very willing passer & very good defender. IDK where that guy went.
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Re: Is Kat really gonna be worse to watch than Randle? 

Post#720 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:04 pm

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egelband wrote:Wolves getting Good Randle today (playing in front of friends and family in Dallas) and he looks terrific. Sad that he only brings it occasionally.

He was really good with only very few instances of Dubious Handles sprinkled in. Blocked by Thompson on an iso-play. He doesn’t understand that he actively rests opposing players defensively if he doesn’t pass the ball.


20-21 Randle was really the best Randle. A very willing passer & very good defender. IDK where that guy went.


i loved "good" randle. he started the fire and would have loved to see him get to finish it. but, damn. KAT is so good. and i actively disliked him.
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