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Post#1001 » by Seabass777 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:20 pm

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Lol cmon here we fking go. They want draft picks for the guy who got a damn knee transplant?? Sigh…

Hopefully the market is not that good for Lonzo, because I want him in a Heat uniform.

Like Beernie said, he could have a Shaun Livingston Golden State arc with us.
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Post#1002 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:21 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Do we really fault the Heat for missing out on Lillard?

The Blazers were dug in and stubborn about trading him to Miami after his agent backed them into a corner.

IF the Heat offered Herro for Lillard, that was more than fair for Portland.


Yes. You have a top 15 player in the world wanting only your team and fills the biggest need on your team while you’re coming fresh off a finals trip. A good front office is navigating the nonsense and finding a way to get that done.


I tend to agree, but how much more than Herro could they have offered before it was a complete overpay?
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1003 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:22 pm

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Lol cmon here we fking good. They want draft picks for the guy who got a damn knee transplant?? Sigh…

Hopefully the market is not that good for Lonzo, because I want him in a Heat uniform.

Like Beernie said, he could have a Shaun Livingston Golden State arc with us.

Maybe the expiring spare parts in the Warriors deal head to Chicago for Ball.
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Post#1004 » by al bondiga » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:22 pm

jb too old... Few will be interested in paying good value

A think spo Got an ultimatum from riley after the orlando game
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1005 » by Seabass777 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:23 pm

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Lol cmon here we fking good. They want draft picks for the guy who got a damn knee transplant?? Sigh…

Hopefully the market is not that good for Lonzo, because I want him in a Heat uniform.

Like Beernie said, he could have a Shaun Livingston Golden State arc with us.

Maybe the expiring spare parts in the Warriors deal head to Chicago for Ball.



Ok I’m happy now MWP.

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Post#1006 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:23 pm

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:lol: C'Mon Hammy, are you still trying to build around Herro?


Huh?


Just admit you been wanting to build around Herro all this time :lol:


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Post#1007 » by Slot Machine » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:23 pm

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They can want it, but that mindset will likely lead to them getting it elsewhere. Cant play role players premium contracts. Pay those to your real stars. Keep drafting until someone stands out.

You're looking at a future when this team will be paying Bam and Herro max money (until Bam is moved in a year or 2), the future isn't looking bright, it's looking like Beal's Washington Wizards except without the high draft pick misses. Hopefully Miami can get at least 1 future possible top 10 (hopefully top 3) pick out of Butler.

BTW, this team loves to overpay it's own players, Martin almost got overpaid but his agent screwed that up. This FO said no to Vincent for 11 mil a year and a year later sent a 1st to pay Rozier nearly 25 mil a year.


Then just rebuild. The problem with this FO is they drink their own culture cool aid. Culture is important but at the end of the day elite talent is what wins you multiple championships. The best way to get elite talent is draft. Between Bam, Herro and Butler Heat can get 6-8 first round picks back. They may not be the best ones, but you can use them to move up the draft if you need to. But FO has to be willing to be really bad for 3-4 seasons.

Seriously. This front office is dead set on doing anything possible to avoid actually rebuilding and looking to get some young studs in the draft. Their insistence on kicking the can down the road to continue to put together these treadmill teams is nuts. Do they think we as fans want this or something? Bizarre.

Pat’s Front Office work now (assuming he is still calling the shots) actually reminds me of watching athletes get old. He has the exact same hesitation and lack of decisiveness, trying to force things that used to work but no longer do, and a complete inability to accept the current reality.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1008 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:24 pm

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Lol cmon here we fking go. They want draft picks for the guy who got a damn knee transplant?? Sigh…

Hopefully the market is not that good for Lonzo, because I want him in a Heat uniform.

Like Beernie said, he could have a Shaun Livingston Golden State arc with us.


The thing that doesnt make sense is that Lonzo is an expiring. Thats the lure. So in return for their expiring, they want two picks and an....um, expiring??? Tha fuq??
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1009 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:25 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Do we really fault the Heat for missing out on Lillard?

The Blazers were dug in and stubborn about trading him to Miami after his agent backed them into a corner.

IF the Heat offered Herro for Lillard, that was more than fair for Portland.


Yes. You have a top 15 player in the world wanting only your team and fills the biggest need on your team while you’re coming fresh off a finals trip. A good front office is navigating the nonsense and finding a way to get that done.


I tend to agree, but how much more than Herro could they have offered before it was a complete overpay?


At the time all our assets were viewed as an underpay which is wrong now. Herro Jovic and 2-3 1sts was completely fine with me
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Post#1010 » by Seabass777 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:26 pm

Is this what Wade was alluding to when he said : A house divided cannot stand?

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Post#1011 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:27 pm

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Yes. You have a top 15 player in the world wanting only your team and fills the biggest need on your team while you’re coming fresh off a finals trip. A good front office is navigating the nonsense and finding a way to get that done.


I tend to agree, but how much more than Herro could they have offered before it was a complete overpay?


At the time all our assets were viewed as an underpay which is wrong now. Herro Jovic and 2-3 1sts was completely fine with me


Yup. I remember most in the media absolutely roasting that hypothetical offer. "Worst deal for a star player in NBA history" etc.
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Post#1012 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:35 pm

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I tend to agree, but how much more than Herro could they have offered before it was a complete overpay?


At the time all our assets were viewed as an underpay which is wrong now. Herro Jovic and 2-3 1sts was completely fine with me


Yup. I remember most in the media absolutely roasting that hypothetical offer. "Worst deal for a star player in NBA history" etc.


The problem has always been, that GMs didnt value Herro or Winslow as much in a trade. That is not the Heat's fault.
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Post#1013 » by Slot Machine » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:36 pm

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I tend to agree, but how much more than Herro could they have offered before it was a complete overpay?


At the time all our assets were viewed as an underpay which is wrong now. Herro Jovic and 2-3 1sts was completely fine with me


Yup. I remember most in the media absolutely roasting that hypothetical offer. "Worst deal for a star player in NBA history" etc.

Yeah, the largely Boston/Northeast-based sports media ran some great propaganda to make sure we couldn’t build our team after the ‘23 playoffs. In our corner we have…uh, Barry Jackson, Dan Le Batard, and the retards over at 5 Reasons Sports. Miami sports media is truly pathetic.
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Post#1014 » by Seabass777 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:38 pm

Whatever we can do to add Fox or Zion to the Bam & Herro core, DO IT.

Those 2 are difference makers that can be realistically had, to make us perennial contenders.

Can you imagine a front court of Bam and Zion (In HEAT shape)?

If we find a way to keep Ware lol (extremely doubtful but I’m a dreamer)

Ware
Bam
Zion
Herro
Fox

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Post#1015 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:02 pm

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Post#1016 » by EMC5466 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:05 pm

Ethan Skolnick has got to be the dumbest and most arrogant sports “reporter” in the country.
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Post#1017 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:05 pm

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Post#1018 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:06 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1019 » by AirP. » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:21 pm

Seabass777 wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Do we really fault the Heat for missing out on Lillard?

The Blazers were dug in and stubborn about trading him to Miami after his agent backed them into a corner.

IF the Heat offered Herro for Lillard, that was more than fair for Portland.


No blame on the front office at all. Blazers front office Cronin did not trade Lillard to us out of spite. They failed to do right by Damian after him being loyal to them all those years, so there was nothing we could do about that.

It just sucks because ultimately even though we had no control over it, the fact of the matter is we struck out AGAIN.

How many has it been?, Giannis, Harden, Kyrie, KD, Beal, etc…

If a front office is doing that, then you float out your best offer to the media and make the Portland fanbase put some pressure on the FO but that isn't Riley's style, his style is look for leverage.... like Lillard asking to go to Miami and then offering much less than he's worth. I understand Portland went radio silent but so did Miami.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1020 » by Shootit » Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:23 pm

Team Just needs to take the best offer of picks/young players and trade Jimmy.

He will always be on my short list of favorite players here but the windows has come and gone building around him. Especially with a new deal causing possible friction

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