2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2

[AirP.]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

[DayofMourning]

Im all for moving on from oft injured 35 year olds looking for BIG money.

Especially when you look at what we have on the roster. Weve got some nice guys but we need a top dog scorer badly.

Id probably trade Bam too as we are putting ourselves in another treadmill position.

[twix2500]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Blah blah blah, if it wasnt for this person and that person. That has been said about Riley since 1996. Zo, Hardaway, Shaq, Wade, Bosh, Lebron, Butler. The only ones Pat pushed out was Hardaway, Shaq and Bosh. Everyone was at the end of the career except for Lebron. He just not gonna pay you super max for a farewell tour. He will pay you, but not like you are going carry the team. Now lets get this straight, Butler situation is soley about the money. Lets not make it about who didnt wash the dishes like an old couple whos at the back end of a relationship. I get it fans want the Butler era to continue so they are lashing out, but how many superstars really got that besides Kobe. And Kobe spent his final years cussing out young players who looked up to him, they were never contending on Kobe back years. Do we really want to spend the next two years trying to make the exit of Butler more than what it is, Butler wants to make more money than he is now and for a long period of time and the Heat are not willing to do so.

The contract issue was a issue before the exit conference. If the Heat offered him the money he wanted, the exit conference would of meant nothing and Jimmy would of signed it.

[DayofMourning]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Blah blah blah, if it wasnt for this person and that person. That has been said about Riley since 1996. Zo, Hardaway, Shaq, Wade, Bosh, Lebron, Butler. The only ones Pat pushed out was Hardaway, Shaq and Bosh. Everyone was at the end of the career except for Lebron. He just not gonna pay you super max for a farewell tour. He will pay you, but not like you are going carry the team. Now lets get this straight, Butler situation is soley about the money. Lets not make it about who didnt wash the dishes like an old couple whos at the back end of a relationship. I get it fans want the Butler era to continue so they are lashing out, but how many superstars really got that besides Kobe. And Kobe spent his final years cussing out young players who looked up to him, they were never contending on Kobe back years. Do we really want to spend the next two years trying to make the exit of Butler more than what it is, Butler wants to make more money than he is now and for a long period of time and the Heat are not willing to do so.

Well said. Butler isnt 30 with minimal injury concerns. Hes 35 and tweaks his ankles every 10 to 15 games. Hes got plenty of miles on him.

[ZoStrong]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Ya, but LeBron was leaving anyways. He was never gonna be a lifer here. And I agree w Heat not overpaying a broken down Wade at that pt. I wished both would meet at a half pt, but it worked out better in the end because, like u said, Butler ending up here is because of that Wade's season w him in Chicago. And Wade also got to have a farewell season here. So, in all, I think it did work out ok in hindsight. Let's see how this Butler thing unfolds. Fingers crossed

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

The only thing Pat is elite at is ruining relationships with his franchise goats. Literally the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd best players in franchise history

[AirP.]

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While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Ya, but LeBron was leaving anyways. He was never gonna be a lifer here. And I agree w Heat not overpaying a broken down Wade at that pt. I wished both would meet at a half pt, but it worked out better in the end because, like u said, Butler ending up here is because of that Wade's season w him in Chicago. And Wade also got to have a farewell season here. So, in all, I think it did work out ok in hindsight. Let's see how this Butler thing unfolds. Fingers crossed

It's interesting to know the franchise's best player was never the highest paid player on his team so when he thought maybe he'd get paid back some Riley turned his back on him. Luckily when Wade left Riley had Whiteside to give most of the money Wade should have got.

[DayofMourning]

AirP, you still gonna be around if we move Jimmy? Or are you gonna be a Sixers fan or whatever?

I was a Hornets fan bcuz of Zo. Moved to Miami with him. Never left.

[Kobewade11]

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Nah we're not going to do that. LeBron was telling people he was going back to Cleveland before the season even ended and those of us who were following the team in those years know it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

“Return to competition conditioning” when he’s been out only 2 games is fuxkin hilarious

[twix2500]

While some thought what Riley said would put a fire under Butler to do everything possible to get an extension which could also get him hurt, maybe, just maybe Riley put Butler in a situation to do the opposite, to not go all out to make sure he doesn't get a major injury to screw him on free agency.

The one huge issue Butler has is respect and with how Riley went after him in a season where Riley knew Butler was dealing with his dying father and then also delt with his death during the season, it probably wasn't something Butler thought showed respect, it was quite the opposite.

So, this is now the 3rd high level player in Miami that Riley's pushed away from Miami in the last decade... LeBron, Wade and now Butler? Riley's had a historic career but his last 10 years haven't been nearly as good as the previous years he's had in basketball. If it wasn't for Wade selling Butler on Spoelstra, Butler probably doesn't end up in Miami, he'd gone to Houston in 2019.

Ya, but LeBron was leaving anyways. He was never gonna be a lifer here. And I agree w Heat not overpaying a broken down Wade at that pt. I wished both would meet at a half pt, but it worked out better in the end because, like u said, Butler ending up here is because of that Wade's season w him in Chicago. And Wade also got to have a farewell season here. So, in all, I think it did work out ok in hindsight. Let's see how this Butler thing unfolds. Fingers crossed

It's interesting to know the franchise's best player was never the highest paid player on his team so when he thought maybe he'd get paid back some Riley turned his back on him. Luckily when Wade left Riley had Whiteside to give most of the money Wade should have got.

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Ya, but LeBron was leaving anyways. He was never gonna be a lifer here. And I agree w Heat not overpaying a broken down Wade at that pt. I wished both would meet at a half pt, but it worked out better in the end because, like u said, Butler ending up here is because of that Wade's season w him in Chicago. And Wade also got to have a farewell season here. So, in all, I think it did work out ok in hindsight. Let's see how this Butler thing unfolds. Fingers crossed

It's interesting to know the franchise's best player was never the highest paid player on his team so when he thought maybe he'd get paid back some Riley turned his back on him. Luckily when Wade left Riley had Whiteside to give most of the money Wade should have got.

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

He should’ve been paid, hes the reason this franchise is relevant and that can’t be debated.

[twix2500]

It's interesting to know the franchise's best player was never the highest paid player on his team so when he thought maybe he'd get paid back some Riley turned his back on him. Luckily when Wade left Riley had Whiteside to give most of the money Wade should have got.

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

He should’ve been paid, hes the reason this franchise is relevant and that can’t be debated.

Well they would have never gotten Butler if the Heat signed Wade to the deal he wanted. Paying him max for five years. That would of put them back to irrelavancy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

He should’ve been paid, hes the reason this franchise is relevant and that can’t be debated.

Well they would have never gotten Butler if the Heat signed Wade to the deal he wanted. Paying him max for five years. That would of put them back to irrelavancy.

Maybe, maybe not. They were already boys. He was Jimmy’s mentor

[Hoops3355]

It's been over since last year. You guys yelling about Jimmy forgot that his big booty latina BFF was the main reason we never added another piece lol.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[NightWatch]

So Miami planning on missing the playoffs this year? Herro and Bam is not going to take Heat far in playoffs not a chance. Heat are guarantee a first round exit or miss the playoff. The only person who can carry the Heat very far in the playoff is solely butler and team collectively.

[ZoStrong]

It's interesting to know the franchise's best player was never the highest paid player on his team so when he thought maybe he'd get paid back some Riley turned his back on him. Luckily when Wade left Riley had Whiteside to give most of the money Wade should have got.

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

He should’ve been paid, hes the reason this franchise is relevant and that can’t be debated.

Wade?
Maybe should've been paid more earlier. But you don't at that pt. You wanna be like Lakers paying Kobe at the end of his career just to be mediocre for several years?

And maybe you are too young to remember pre-Wade years. Miami was a relevant franchise. Just because Heat didn't win it all doesn't mean they were not. Was Knicks not relevant? Celtics for couple decades of no rings until one finally last year? Lakers post The Showtime until pre-Kobe/Shaq years? Some teams are relevant even if they don't win the ring every year.
God, it's like u can't talk w teenagers about life

[Hoops3355]

Curious to see if with Jimmy rumors swirling, some players try to make their way down to Miami. There will be a void to be filled and there will be a good amount of assets moving around. I think it’ll likely be a multi team deal if it goes down.

The Heat are the biggest draw in Miami. There's definitely a marketing edge to being down there and the people embrace their sport stars like family.

[unowen85]

Yes Wade took less so he can play with Haslem and Lebron. He opted out his last year, which he and Lebran demanded to get that fifth year that force Pat to trade picks when they didnt need too. He opted out his fifth year 16 mill and Pat gave him 20 mill. Wade chose to sign a one year deal, the Heat were willing to give him a multi year deal. Heat were fine with giving him 20 mill per, but he wanted the max when it was obvious his knees were declining and he wanted the Heat to act like they were recruiting him on the boat.

He should’ve been paid, hes the reason this franchise is relevant and that can’t be debated.

Well they would have never gotten Butler if the Heat signed Wade to the deal he wanted. Paying him max for five years. That would have put them back to irrelavancy.

Wait, didn’t Wade want 2 years/50 mill? Where you getting the five years from?

We were irrelevant without Wade until we got Butler, so it was either be irrelevant trotting out a veteran Wade or being irrelevant with the crap team we put out after Wade left.

And that’s the lesson Riley needs to learn, we’re going to be irrelevant regardless for the next few years whether we keep Butler or not. And I’d rather be irrelevant with Butler getting his money.