OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before

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OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#1 » by Ell Curry » Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:37 pm

Trade 1:
Pelicans - Cason Wallace, PHI 2025 1st, LAC 2026 1st
Thunder - Trey Murphy

Trade 2:
Pelicans - Bogdan Bogdanovic
Hawks - Isaiah Joe, 2 best OKC 2nds in 2029 (they have 5 right now that's silly).

Thunder go for their first title win hard the next 3 playoffs before SGA's free agency.

Chet-Hartenstein
JalenWilliams-Chet
Murphy-Wiggins
Dort-Bogdanovic
SGA-Caruso

is a killer 9 man rotation. Caruso-Bogdanovic-Murphy-JalenWilliams-Hartenstein/Chet can probably kill opposing teams when SGA and the other team's star sit, and Murphy is in their closing 5 for sure (with SGA, Chet, Jalen Williams and then I imagine Hartenstein, Dort, Caruso or whoever is hot from 3), which can't be said of Joe or Wallace. Bogdanovic was a clutch killer in Turkey while having fire thrown at him, he won't be scared in the playoffs.

Pelicans get 2 firsts. Philly will probably improve, but should be an alright first rounder and the Clippers one is intriguing, Harden will be a year older and I'm not sure the Clippers being the #2 defensive rebounding team and #6 D in the league overall is sustainable. Pels are rebuilding, they don't have great depth, this gives them 3 young players for one. Murray and Wallace is a nice PG duo that can also play a bit together with Wallace off-ball and defending the point of attack and Murray looking for steals, helps their tank this year and they can use the Philly first on rebuilding their frontcourt which is Missi, Herb Jones and 2 giant expensive elephants in the room, one of which they might as well keep.

Hawks get 7 years younger and a bit cheaper at guard. Saving 3M might genuinely matter for them, they'd be about 30.5M under the tax with Capela to re-sign and players 13 and 14 would be the Lakers first and Minnesota's 2nd, so let's say they'd have like 25M to pay Capela and use some of the non-tax MLE on keeping Nance Jr of if Capela costs like 17M to keep and Nance gets offered a non-tax MLE, you sign the best 7-8M player you can for a solid 9 man rotation and the rookie and Bufkin are #10 and #11 and can hopefully crack it soon enough:

Capela-Okongwu
JalenJohnson-MLE
Risacher-Hunter
Daniels-Joe
Trae-Daniels-Bufkin

and looking at that, any type of pick makes sense in the draft except a tiny guard who can't play with Trae (long-term Capela replacement, another 3+D forward, a scoring wing), and if he keeps your offense afloat for 14 minutes a night when Trae sits, even that's pretty helpful.
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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#2 » by balsamic_ducks » Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:17 pm

Zero interest from the pels
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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#3 » by jayjaysee » Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:18 pm

Due to Trey’s PP, OKC would need to send out about 10-11 million more.. or you just send Bogdan to the Pistons and make it one big 4 team trade. But Pistons likely prefer Joe or Wiggins to Bogdan, so probably a three team deal atp and keep Joe..

I know I’m higher on Trey than most non-pelicans fans but I love the target. Think he fits perfectly and is young and locked up.. I’m not sure OKC can afford another big contract in 2027 but think you deal with that in 2 years when you see what the group has developed into..
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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#4 » by Devilanche » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:08 pm

Trey is an interesting target but doubt NO will move him.
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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#5 » by Jon1798 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 1:23 pm

Pass from NO
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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#6 » by dms269 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 2:26 pm

I think for Atlanta the issue isn't next year, but the year after. That is an additional almost 13M that Atlanta probably wouldn't have to pay Bogi (club option).

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Re: OKC deadline (NO, ATL) - deals that have probably been on here before 

Post#7 » by azuresou1 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 6:53 pm

Re: the 1st trade, contrary to the other posters I'd view that as an overpay from OKC, and think the Pels should be all over that. I think Wallace is equally as good as Murphy, with their discrepancy in production being explained by overall team talent and role. Wallace is also on a cheap rookie deal - on top of which OKC is being asked to throw in 2 1sts.

Re: the 2nd trade - I don't know if Joe is worth his contract or gives us anything that we don't get from Garrison Mathews. I'd rather have Bogi as a very productive almost-expiring unless we're getting a better young player or a respectable 1st.

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