Jayson Tatum Thread

[Fierce1]

Yeah, nah lol. The top players are just too good and efficient to just have an efficient month in March and win the MVP. You gotta maintain those numbers throughout the season to have a chance. You can't be hot and cold

JT may not be efficient now, but he's not lacking in production.

So it's not hot and cold because his problem is not production, it's efficiency.

If you're leading the team in scoring, rebounding, and assists, that's MVP material.

That's why I said March because JT only needs to improve in the efficiency department as the season gets nearer to closing.

His production isn't anywhere near the level of Jokic/Giannis AND he's less efficient. An efficient March is not going to make up the difference unless he averages like 40+ for the month lol

You're forgetting team record.

If Bucks and Nugs are not top 3 in their respective conferences, voters will not pick them.

I also didn't guarantee JT would win MVP.

All I said was he's going to make his MVP push in March.

Besides, the repeat is more important than the regular season MVP.

JT has more or less 7 chances to win MVP, after this season.

So for me, enjoy the ride.

[Bar Fight]

JT may not be efficient now, but he's not lacking in production.

So it's not hot and cold because his problem is not production, it's efficiency.

If you're leading the team in scoring, rebounding, and assists, that's MVP material.

That's why I said March because JT only needs to improve in the efficiency department as the season gets nearer to closing.

His production isn't anywhere near the level of Jokic/Giannis AND he's less efficient. An efficient March is not going to make up the difference unless he averages like 40+ for the month lol

You're forgetting team record.

If Bucks and Nugs are not top 3 in their respective conferences, voters will not pick them.

I also didn't guarantee JT would win MVP.

All I said was he's going to make his MVP push in March.

Besides, the repeat is more important than the regular season MVP.

JT has more or less 7 chances to win MVP, after this season.

So for me, enjoy the ride.

Voters have already picked guys outside of the top 3 multiple times in the last decade. And Jokic was one of them lol. As long as they continue to trump Tatum's production and efficiency, he isn't winning an MVP over them. And if they're gonna go back to the antiquated "best record" narrative, SGA is a more viable candidate than JT. A good March by Tatum will not be enough

[Fierce1]

His production isn't anywhere near the level of Jokic/Giannis AND he's less efficient. An efficient March is not going to make up the difference unless he averages like 40+ for the month lol

You're forgetting team record.

If Bucks and Nugs are not top 3 in their respective conferences, voters will not pick them.

I also didn't guarantee JT would win MVP.

All I said was he's going to make his MVP push in March.

Besides, the repeat is more important than the regular season MVP.

JT has more or less 7 chances to win MVP, after this season.

So for me, enjoy the ride.

Voters have already picked guys outside of the top 3 multiple times in the last decade. And Jokic was one of them lol. As long as they continue to trump Tatum's production and efficiency, he isn't winning an MVP over them. And if they're gonna go back to the antiquated "best record" narrative, SGA is a more viable candidate than JT. A good March by Tatum will not be enough

Like I said, a March push for MVP is just that, a push.

I never said JT will win MVP because of a great March.

Besides the MVP, if JT is having a great month of March, it will result in more Celtic wins.

So why wouldn't we want JT to be great in March?

[Bar Fight]

Lo and behold, Jokic won the first Bontemps straw poll (polling 100 likely MVP voters) comfortably. Giannis finished top 3 ahead of Tatum. Like I said, the “best player on a top team” narrative has been dead for years

[Fierce1]

Lo and behold, Jokic won the first Bontemps straw poll (polling 100 likely MVP voters) comfortably. Giannis finished top 3 ahead of Tatum. Like I said, the “best player on a top team” narrative has been dead for years

Dead for years?

Edit:

Jokic won it in 2022 where his team was just 6th in the west.

But that's the only time the MVP was given to someone whose team was outside the top 3 in his conference for the last 5 years.

So it's not dead for years because that's 1 out of 5.

[Fierce1]

If expanded to 10 years, 2014 to 2024, an MVP given to a player where his team is outside the top 3 in conference standings has only happened twice, 2017 and 2022.

Westbrook averaged a triple-double in 2017.

[Bar Fight]

If expanded to 10 years, 2014 to 2024, an MVP given to a player where his team is outside the top 3 in conference standings has only happened twice, 2017 and 2022.

Westbrook averaged a triple-double in 2017.

And it's about to happen again lol

[Fierce1]

If expanded to 10 years, 2014 to 2024, an MVP given to a player where his team is outside the top 3 in conference standings has only happened twice, 2017 and 2022.

Westbrook averaged a triple-double in 2017.

And it's about to happen again lol

Like I said, I don't expect JT to beat Jokic in the MVP race.

The only hope is JT ends up having a great month of March and the teams of Jokic and Giannis struggle in the standings.

But if it's based on performance alone, JT is definitely outside the top 2.

I also don't think this is the season where JT should be focused on the MVP.

The chance to repeat is very rare.

Tim Duncan and the Spurs won 5 championships, but a repeat was something they couldn't do.

So the best thing for JT and all of us is to just try to compete for the MVP but not totally focus on winning it.

[ConstableGeneva]

via Taylor Snow:

Jayson Tatum is the 1st Celtic since Al Jefferson in 2007 to record 7 straight double-digit rebound games.

He's the 1st Celtic since Larry Bird in 1982 to log 7 straight games of 17+ points and 10+ rebounds.

[Triple7]

If expanded to 10 years, 2014 to 2024, an MVP given to a player where his team is outside the top 3 in conference standings has only happened twice, 2017 and 2022.

Westbrook averaged a triple-double in 2017.

And it's about to happen again lol

Like I said, I don't expect JT to beat Jokic in the MVP race.

The only hope is JT ends up having a great month of March and the teams of Jokic and Giannis struggle in the standings.

But if it's based on performance alone, JT is definitely outside the top 2.

I also don't think this is the season where JT should be focused on the MVP.

The chance to repeat is very rare.

Tim Duncan and the Spurs won 5 championships, but a repeat was something they couldn't do.

So the best thing for JT and all of us is to just try to compete for the MVP but not totally focus on winning it.

He should just focus on getting that b2b chip, than winning mvp. He will not win it this year. Voters just doesn’t see him that way. Especially with that erratic performance in the last playoffs. If he play well this playoffs, and we end winning it again, and JT winning finals mvp convincingly, then next year, perception changes. He will have a better chance of winning it.

[Fierce1]

And it's about to happen again lol

Like I said, I don't expect JT to beat Jokic in the MVP race.

The only hope is JT ends up having a great month of March and the teams of Jokic and Giannis struggle in the standings.

But if it's based on performance alone, JT is definitely outside the top 2.

I also don't think this is the season where JT should be focused on the MVP.

The chance to repeat is very rare.

Tim Duncan and the Spurs won 5 championships, but a repeat was something they couldn't do.

So the best thing for JT and all of us is to just try to compete for the MVP but not totally focus on winning it.

He should just focus on getting that b2b chip, than winning mvp. He will not win it this year. Voters just doesn’t see him that way. Especially with that erratic performance in the last playoffs. If he play well this playoffs, and we end winning it again, and JT winning finals mvp convincingly, then next year, perception changes. He will have a better chance of winning it.

Yeah, I agree.

The b2b chip is more important than the MVP.

That's why I don't get the noise about Tatum's efficiency.

What's important is the Cs are winning.

[phincsfan]

JT is definitely top 4 in the MVP race. Joker and SGA are carrying their teams and Giannis is being Giannis except he has Lillard. JT never had a season where he had to carry the team because there was always JB. He never had to force the issue for an entire season like Joker and Giannis has.

Raising the Russell trophy in 25' would be a bigger accomplishment IMO anyway.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

It's hilarious to me that every year the first team all NBA is Jokic, Antetokounmpo, SGA, Doncic and Tatum and the media is like those first four guys are the consensus best players in the world but that Tatum fellow is merely a low end top 10 player (despite having done far more in the post season than any of the other guys).

[redslastlaugh]

It's hilarious to me that every year the first team all NBA is Jokic, Antetokounmpo, SGA, Doncic and Tatum and the media is like those first four guys are the consensus best players in the world but that Tatum fellow is merely a low end top 10 player (despite having done far more in the post season than any of the other guys).

All things considered, I think Jokic, Giannis, Tatum are the three best players in the NBA right now.

For some reason, there is a bias against JT because… who knows why, people hate him or discount him or say he’s boring… but I think it’s obvious that Joker, Giannis, JT are the three best players in the league right now.

[ConstableGeneva]

Jayson Tatum, left wing three assassin.

[Bar Fight]

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JB, JT, and Mazzulla need to look at these numbers and take them to heart

[phincsfan]

JT’s 3pt % took a dip in December

[Triple7]

It's hilarious to me that every year the first team all NBA is Jokic, Antetokounmpo, SGA, Doncic and Tatum and the media is like those first four guys are the consensus best players in the world but that Tatum fellow is merely a low end top 10 player (despite having done far more in the post season than any of the other guys).

All things considered, I think Jokic, Giannis, Tatum are the three best players in the NBA right now.

For some reason, there is a bias against JT because… who knows why, people hate him or discount him or say he’s boring… but I think it’s obvious that Joker, Giannis, JT are the three best players in the league right now.

SGA is way better than JT sorry. Until he limits his 3pt chucking, and has that reliable go to move on offense, and be more efficient, he will never get the respect those other guys have. He is still top 5 overall right now, but not in overall talent

[Fierce1]

It's hilarious to me that every year the first team all NBA is Jokic, Antetokounmpo, SGA, Doncic and Tatum and the media is like those first four guys are the consensus best players in the world but that Tatum fellow is merely a low end top 10 player (despite having done far more in the post season than any of the other guys).

All things considered, I think Jokic, Giannis, Tatum are the three best players in the NBA right now.

For some reason, there is a bias against JT because… who knows why, people hate him or discount him or say he’s boring… but I think it’s obvious that Joker, Giannis, JT are the three best players in the league right now.

SGA is way better than JT sorry. Until he limits his 3pt chucking, and has that reliable go to move on offense, and be more efficient, he will never get the respect those other guys have. He is still top 5 overall right now, but not in overall talent

If what you're saying is true then JT would not have made 3 straight 1st Team ALL-NBA.

[Fierce1]

Last season it was why can't JT be like Haliburton.

In the playoffs, it was Luka is way better than JT.

When it was done, JT ended up beating those 2.

Guess JT will just have to beat SGA at some point in their careers.

It's true SGA is more efficient, but not way better than JT.

SGA is a PG but only averages 6 assists per game.

OKC coach making SGA look good, the system works for SGA.

From history, all the great PGs are always in top 10 in assists per game.