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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#101 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 3:35 pm

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Yep, that’s a massive assumption of healthy Joel and PG.

Also, we’re back to Nurse is playing Maxey too many minutes.


We loss the dream of playing Max less when McCain went down.

Maybe next year we can play Max less, but its not happening when we have Lowry as his backup.


I think you can get away with Maxey 36, Lowry 12. Stay there Nurse, and we're fine.


Well Max played 40 last night when Lowry played 20, with Max playing off the ball. I don't think NN wants to play Max exclusively at the 1 yet, but he could be growing into it right now.

With the bench out there, we do need a scoring punch from Max without McCain.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#102 » by Wilfried » Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:11 pm

It’s perfectly normal you play him heavy minutes against the top teams. But he shouldn’t be playing more than 32-34 minutes against half the league imo
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#103 » by elchengue20 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 4:29 pm

Great win, if everyone is playing we really have a squad.

PG and Embiid looked healthy and in good shape.

Biggest positive is Martin and Yabu showed they can be those legit good role players we need so much.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#104 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:04 pm

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ivysixer2000 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Yep, that’s a massive assumption of healthy Joel and PG.

Also, we’re back to Nurse is playing Maxey too many minutes.


We loss the dream of playing Max less when McCain went down.

Maybe next year we can play Max less, but its not happening when we have Lowry as his backup.


McCain has probably played his last game as a Sixer. I can definitely see him moved as trade bait before the deadline. Had he not been out for the season, then he probably doesn't get traded but if Morey is going to add another piece to try to salvage this season, I think he gets traded.


Definitely trading Mccain and or that clippers pick for a starting future two way wing/forward..

This team still needs size and athleticism... Love oubre, Caleb and Yabelse as role players. Everybody else like gordan,drummond,kj can be packaged with mccain and picks. Add a few role player shooters after we acquire a young forward we good for future.

Embiid/ Yabu / rookie
/ Yabu
George/ Oubre
Martin / Council
Maxey / jackson
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#105 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 26, 2024 5:55 pm

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Embiid P wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
We loss the dream of playing Max less when McCain went down.

Maybe next year we can play Max less, but its not happening when we have Lowry as his backup.


McCain has probably played his last game as a Sixer. I can definitely see him moved as trade bait before the deadline. Had he not been out for the season, then he probably doesn't get traded but if Morey is going to add another piece to try to salvage this season, I think he gets traded.


Definitely trading Mccain and or that clippers pick for a starting future two way wing/forward..

This team still needs size and athleticism... Love oubre, Caleb and Yabelse as role players. Everybody else like gordan,drummond,kj can be packaged with mccain and picks. Add a few role player shooters after we acquire a young forward we good for future.

Embiid/ Yabu / rookie
/ Yabu
George/ Oubre
Martin / Council
Maxey / jackson


No one who can move the needle like that and play at the level we need exists right now. They aren't available. If you;re talking about Kuminga, pass.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#106 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:43 pm

Thank god McCain is def staying. He’s going to be better than any marginal gains we get in a trade mid season.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#107 » by MikRay » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:43 pm

Someone said trade McCain

No way I’m doing that he will be a star
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#108 » by zaz102 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:44 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:
Embiid P wrote:
McCain has probably played his last game as a Sixer. I can definitely see him moved as trade bait before the deadline. Had he not been out for the season, then he probably doesn't get traded but if Morey is going to add another piece to try to salvage this season, I think he gets traded.


Definitely trading Mccain and or that clippers pick for a starting future two way wing/forward..

This team still needs size and athleticism... Love oubre, Caleb and Yabelse as role players. Everybody else like gordan,drummond,kj can be packaged with mccain and picks. Add a few role player shooters after we acquire a young forward we good for future.

Embiid/ Yabu / rookie
/ Yabu
George/ Oubre
Martin / Council
Maxey / jackson


No one who can move the needle like that and play at the level we need exists right now. They aren't available. If you;re talking about Kuminga, pass.
I agree and it begs the question who are you targeting for ≤ $20M that would be worth including McCain instead of pick(s)?

The guys I'm interested in the most that have popped up in reports are Herb Jones, Aldama, and maybe Kuminga. I don't think any of them are worth giving up McCain.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#109 » by Murray_17 » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:21 pm

I was kind of curious about Maxey because his defense seems greatly improved in my eyes.

I'm pretty sure he has become a neutral defender for his position. Yesterday, he was all over the place, even when hunted on switches.

He's also more of a creator, his TS% is a mediocre 54% (mainly because his shooting has gone away) and he still has a 2.9 BPM, which is **** ridiculous (and yes, his defensive BPM is neutral at 0), mainly because the offense is rolling with him on the court.

If his efficiency improves to marginally above average, I'm ready to say he has a path to being a top-five guard in the league down the line.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#110 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:44 pm

MikRay wrote:Someone said trade McCain

No way I’m doing that he will be a star


Lol he's not going to be better than Maxey. You can stop with the crazy talk.
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Post#111 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:48 pm

Murray_17 wrote:I was kind of curious about Maxey because his defense seems greatly improved in my eyes.

I'm pretty sure he has become a neutral defender for his position. Yesterday, he was all over the place, even when hunted on switches.

He's also more of a creator, his TS% is a mediocre 54% (mainly because his shooting has gone away) and he still has a 2.9 BPM, which is **** ridiculous (and yes, his defensive BPM is neutral at 0), mainly because the offense is rolling with him on the court.

If his efficiency improves to marginally above average, I'm ready to say he has a path to being a top-five guard in the league down the line.


A few people on podcasts have him as a plus defender now. He's more than neutral.

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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#112 » by M2J » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:19 am

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Murray_17 wrote:I was kind of curious about Maxey because his defense seems greatly improved in my eyes.

I'm pretty sure he has become a neutral defender for his position. Yesterday, he was all over the place, even when hunted on switches.

He's also more of a creator, his TS% is a mediocre 54% (mainly because his shooting has gone away) and he still has a 2.9 BPM, which is **** ridiculous (and yes, his defensive BPM is neutral at 0), mainly because the offense is rolling with him on the court.

If his efficiency improves to marginally above average, I'm ready to say he has a path to being a top-five guard in the league down the line.


A few people on podcasts have him as a plus defender now. He's more than neutral.

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I literally was about to come back into this thread to praise Tyrese defense and was prepared to fight about it :D

Seriously, teams like the Celtics will always choose to pick on him with their best players because of their size advantage and his individual defense has been solid all year... His fighting over screens was a problem he even did that well once... But still not great.

Yesterday they switched things on defense, I remember the last Pacers game I called him on the navigation of screens with Jared McCain not knowing Jared has a torn knee and they weren't switching defensively and they both really struggled. With their full team and without a 2nd questionable small guard... The switch of 1-4 was possible and even Yabu played well when attacked by Tatum. Tatum had a stretch when he shot over solid defense, but that's not sustainable over the long run except game 6 4th qtr and game 7 in full. As illustrated in that video above, Tatum used his size to get into the paint but Maxey battled him to the point that it took him like 4 seconds to get into the paint and that's more than enough time for help to get there. That's the job for smaller guards don't be a matador and give your help a chance... And contest jumpers as best you can.

Well done Tyrese on that end.... and I tolerate zero Maxey slander. Even when he has his offensive struggles playing with Lowry and Gordon as his only "spacer"as he did to begin the year with 100 mil sitting and clapping

Tyrese has utilized his floater better of late too, and I want even more. It's been a key to his resurgence of late as a counter. With all 3 levels and his playmaking when teams overload, he's fulfilling the prophecy
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Post#113 » by M2J » Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:26 am

Also, Morey would not trade McCain for his own safety. I literally wouldn't trade Jared for Cooper Flagg, Jared is a proven commodity that fits this team and Cooper is completely unproven.

Could I be wrong on that take? Probably will be.... have I seen the story of Zion Williamson and a ton more can't miss prospects that wish they had Zion's career? Pretty much annually. As proven by Jared being the 16th overall pick.
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Post#114 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:09 am

M2J wrote:Also, Morey would not trade McCain for his own safety. I literally wouldn't trade Jared for Cooper Flagg, Jared is a proven commodity that fits this team and Cooper is completely unproven.

Could I be wrong on that take? Probably will be.... have I seen the story of Zion Williamson and a ton more can't miss prospects that wish they had Zion's career? Pretty much annually. As proven by Jared being the 16th overall pick.


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Post#115 » by M2J » Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:55 am

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M2J wrote:Also, Morey would not trade McCain for his own safety. I literally wouldn't trade Jared for Cooper Flagg, Jared is a proven commodity that fits this team and Cooper is completely unproven.

Could I be wrong on that take? Probably will be.... have I seen the story of Zion Williamson and a ton more can't miss prospects that wish they had Zion's career? Pretty much annually. As proven by Jared being the 16th overall pick.


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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#116 » by MikRay » Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:35 am

eyeatoma wrote:
MikRay wrote:Someone said trade McCain

No way I’m doing that he will be a star


Lol he's not going to be better than Maxey. You can stop with the crazy talk.


U sure? It looks like it to me he’s light years of head of Maxey during his rookie year
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Post#117 » by mjkvol » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:04 am

Just watched the game finally. Damn, the Sixers did everything they could trying to give away a game after playing so well.

I've admittedly been firmly on 'team tank', but the funny thing is that you can bet that none of Boston, Milwaukee, or Cleveland want any part of the Sixers in the 1st round if they are healthy and this group has had some time to sort out the chemistry.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#118 » by eyeatoma » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:27 am

MikRay wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
MikRay wrote:Someone said trade McCain

No way I’m doing that he will be a star


Lol he's not going to be better than Maxey. You can stop with the crazy talk.


U sure? It looks like it to me he’s light years of head of Maxey during his rookie year



And? Maxey didn't have any playing time his rookie season, he started getting some towards the end of the year, and then go some in the playoffs. McCain got a bunch of minutes to start the season, far more than Maxey ever got initially. Doc Rivers had him on a leash for a long time.

The only think that McCain has on maxe is some shiftiness, and probably a more consistent shooter although Maxey has ironed that out recently, and has 3 years of history showing his an elite shooter. So not sure what you see from McCain that says he's going to be better than Maxey.

Less athletic, now injured with a knee issue, just as shorter, far slower, will struggle to finish amongst the trees.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#119 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:37 am

eyeatoma wrote:
MikRay wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Lol he's not going to be better than Maxey. You can stop with the crazy talk.


U sure? It looks like it to me he’s light years of head of Maxey during his rookie year



And? Maxey didn't have any playing time his rookie season, he started getting some towards the end of the year, and then go some in the playoffs. McCain got a bunch of minutes to start the season, far more than Maxey ever got initially. Doc Rivers had him on a leash for a long time.

The only think that McCain has on maxe is some shiftiness, and probably a more consistent shooter although Maxey has ironed that out recently, and has 3 years of history showing his an elite shooter. So not sure what you see from McCain that says he's going to be better than Maxey.

Less athletic, now injured with a knee issue, just as shorter, far slower, will struggle to finish amongst the trees.


Don't treat this like Jahlil,Markelle and Noel trade and get something young,good that fits. This team still need more heigh,rebounding and athleticism.
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Re: The ¿Merry? Christmas game: Celtics vs Sixers 

Post#120 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 am

This type of game is why I could never fully embraced the idea of tanking. Maxey is too good & plays too hard to have him suffer on a bottom 5 team.

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