PG: KNICKS vs Wemby - The Mikal Christmas Show!!!

[3toheadmelo]

least of my worries going into this season was the coach. his reputation is for doing a lot with a little and then hitting a wall. we've never seen him with a team this loaded. his own coaching ceiling might be raised as he gels with his new personnel

This whole pg is just people upset at Thibs after a win and they won’t even acknowledge how he’s transformed our defense lately.

i wasn't in the gt cause i was in uncle mode for my family so i didn't see any of the commentary. just watched the game with my brother and had a blast watching mikal go off but even if i conceded that thibs put og on thibs later than he should have, is doing so at some point not the sort of winning in-game adjustment people say thibs never makes? we tweaked something and won i'll take it

I wasn’t in the gt either. But yeah, Thibs made the adjustment regardless and we won the game. So I don’t get all the butthurt. But the Thibs haters need something to cry about. Can’t enjoy a win here these days. And it’s funny you don’t see them crying about our bad 3 point defense anymore either, which they kept blaming Thibs for. Just pathetic tbh.

[Iron Mantis]

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Leon has put together a championship roster. Looking forward to seeing Thibs break some of those old habits and deliver the goods. He's a solid coach, just has to continue to be flexible and quicker to adapt in real-time and use his personnel.

With the team gelling, Mitch coming back, and Mikal hitting returning to being a star, we have the horses ...no team in the east has more talent than us ... We need to be in the finals.

[BKlutch]

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Leon has put together a championship roster. Looking forward to seeing Thibs break some of those old habits and deliver the goods. He's a solid coach, just has to continue to be flexible and quicker to adapt in real-time and use his personnel.

With the team gelling, Mitch coming back, and Mikal hitting returning to being a star, we have the horses ...no team in the east has more talent than us ... We need to be in the finals.

Thibs is a very good coach. Who's better?
Pop?
Kerr?
Mazzula?
Spo?
Mazzula, others also at his level?

[Guano]

Man I'm just in awe of Josh Hart here...he just wanted it way more than anyone else, but I think it just takes a lot of skill and focus to be able to do this too...he basically bodied CP3 twice.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

Man I'm just in awe of Josh Hart here...he just wanted it way more than anyone else, but I think it just takes a lot of skill and focus to be able to do this too...he basically bodied CP3 twice.

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You can just tell Mitch wasn't actually feeling what he said

[stuporman]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

I've wanted him to be on the ball since before we traded for KAT, him assuming the role of secondary creator and forcing him into situations where he has to create takes the pressure off Brunson to do it. They actually had him creating off screens which is the first time I've seen him do that with us, next is to give him a lot more reps with KAT as the screen setter. I know Brunson can play off the ball and spot up from three when he needs to, so unlocking Mikals creation will be the most important thing outside of health.

He doesn't need to be elite; he just needs to be in the same ballpark Khris Middleton was in.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

I've wanted him to be on the ball since before we traded for KAT, him assuming the role of secondary creator and forcing him into situations where he has to create takes the pressure off Brunson to do it. They actually had him creating off screens which is the first time I've seen him do that with us, next is to give him a lot more reps with KAT as the screen setter. I know Brunson can play off the ball and spot up from three when he needs to, so unlocking Mikals creation will be the most important thing outside of health.

He doesn't need to be elite; he just needs to be in the same ballpark Khris Middleton was in.

i imagine this all is part of them figuring out playing together/off each other and taking what defenses give

[stuporman]

Back to basketball discussion...

Leon has put together a championship roster. Looking forward to seeing Thibs break some of those old habits and deliver the goods. He's a solid coach, just has to continue to be flexible and quicker to adapt in real-time and use his personnel.

With the team gelling, Mitch coming back, and Mikal hitting returning to being a star, we have the horses ...no team in the east has more talent than us ... We need to be in the finals.

Thibs is a very good coach. Who's better?
Pop?
Kerr?
Mazzula?
Spo?
Mazzula, others also at his level?

Knicks are in a tough situation because Thibs has brought a level of play and success the Knicks haven't had in a very long time, their winning is directly from the culture he has set and Rose has supplemented it with the type of players that flourish in his culture.

The problem is if he's outcoached at the very top level of playoff basketball, such as conference finals or finals, it's tough to cut ties with him after he brought the Knicks that far. Then the question is who is this hypothetical coach that's available which can do a better job getting over that last hump?

Any coach who is better is already employed with a contending team, this isn't college where they will hop to a 'premier franchise'. So saying someone like Jenkins or Udoka leaves an already winning team to come to a more 'prestigious franchise' the way a winning mid tier college coach would hop to a top college is unlikely.

The Knicks are kind of pressed to make it work with Thibs for the time being, he's going to get a few shots in the next few years to get over that hump. Rose isn't dumping him because the media or fans think there's some unspecified and unknown alternative that they think would be better.

We may not like it but that's what it looks like are the circumstances we will have to watch play out.

[Guano]

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[Iron Mantis]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

Since the trade was first made it appeared his role would have to be much more than 3&D.

We didn't have KAT yet, so giving a superstar trade package just to park a very skilled, high IQ offensive player in the corner all game would be a waste of valuable assets.

I figured he and Randle would be 2a and 2b, depending on who has it going.

[stuporman]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

I've wanted him to be on the ball since before we traded for KAT, him assuming the role of secondary creator and forcing him into situations where he has to create takes the pressure off Brunson to do it. They actually had him creating off screens which is the first time I've seen him do that with us, next is to give him a lot more reps with KAT as the screen setter. I know Brunson can play off the ball and spot up from three when he needs to, so unlocking Mikals creation will be the most important thing outside of health.

He doesn't need to be elite; he just needs to be in the same ballpark Khris Middleton was in.

Well, it's a sad day in Knickville when nobody will listen to someone yelling on the internet from their couching position and immediately implement it flawlessly as it was imagined.

It's almost as if this isn't a video game we are living in and these players are real people having to gain cohesion while playing against other real players on real teams in the best league in the world...or something.

Plus broken jumper Bridges was in no position to do what he's doing now, of course since Rose traded for Suns Bridges mid season and got Brooklyn Bridges as a throw in then maybe they can do what we all hoped was possible when the trade initially happened.

[stuporman]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

I've wanted him to be on the ball since before we traded for KAT, him assuming the role of secondary creator and forcing him into situations where he has to create takes the pressure off Brunson to do it. They actually had him creating off screens which is the first time I've seen him do that with us, next is to give him a lot more reps with KAT as the screen setter. I know Brunson can play off the ball and spot up from three when he needs to, so unlocking Mikals creation will be the most important thing outside of health.

He doesn't need to be elite; he just needs to be in the same ballpark Khris Middleton was in.

i imagine this all is part of them figuring out playing together/off each other and taking what defenses give

They are ahead of the .500 till new year's day pace of Thibs past Knicks teams so what took them so long to figure it out? How dare they not get out to the 15 game winning streak out of the gate that the Cavs had...I'm a little offended as a fan...it was 5 picks after all.

[stuporman]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

Since the trade was first made it appeared his role would have to be much more than 3&D.

We didn't have KAT yet, so giving a superstar trade package just to park a very skilled, high IQ offensive player in the corner all game would be a waste of valuable assets.

I figured he and Randle would be 2a and 2b, depending on who has it going.

Knicks have 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D and 1E....league scared now.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I wonder if Thibs going to MB so often down the stretch in 'Brooklyn Bridges' fashion may have signaled a confidence he now has to do it when teams throw long defenders on JB to disrupt the offense. The Knicks trade for him using the draft capital they did so you can use him that way, it makes the Knicks even more difficult to defend.

Either Brunson attacking the paint relentlessly or KAT spreads the floor slicing it up with his passing and shooting or then you have MB carving them up from middy or splashing from 3. Then OG and Hart are just cutting to the basket, spotting up or crashing the boards.

A MB in creation and play maker mode like he was against the Spurs makes the Knicks a finals contender. Hopefully Thibs isn't shy about using him that way if the offense stalls against ball pressing JB.

I've wanted him to be on the ball since before we traded for KAT, him assuming the role of secondary creator and forcing him into situations where he has to create takes the pressure off Brunson to do it. They actually had him creating off screens which is the first time I've seen him do that with us, next is to give him a lot more reps with KAT as the screen setter. I know Brunson can play off the ball and spot up from three when he needs to, so unlocking Mikals creation will be the most important thing outside of health.

He doesn't need to be elite; he just needs to be in the same ballpark Khris Middleton was in.

Well, it's a sad day in Knickville when nobody will listen to someone yelling on the internet from their couching position and immediately implement it flawlessly as it was imagined.

[dakomish23]

This team will always be in the conversation with JB/KAT/OG/Mikal on this roster in their primes.

Developing young, cheap talent will be critical to keep this train running.

Give me your 2nd draft prospects

[Gravy]

True but the reality is...we are in the arm chair position and we are stuck with Thibs. I hope/trust he'll adapt accordingly in the playoffs.

This. Assuming he game planned putting OG on wemby late is just as reasonable as assuming his stubborn ass has no choice because KAT s 5 foul. We all know what Thibs is at this point. He's directly in between what his lawyers say he is what what the prosecutors say he is. Good coach with flaws. We are winning. We are one of the very top teams in the league. I'm here for it.

There was a time, long long ago in a place far far north when we thought Nick Nurse was the best coach. Even he has flaws, it seems.

Coaching mastermind Nick Nurse still has Embiid defending Wemby like an ancient 90s head coach, who then gets Embiid ejected in the 2nd qtr. Is this our hero???

[Guano]

unfortunately not. turned 38 today

happy born day dawg

unfortunately not. turned 38 today

Happy 13th sorry 38th birthday

Have a nice day man enjoy it

thx homies

Happy birthday, homie. Hope it was a good one. Also you're washed as hell. Turning 38 - late 30s - that's old. No way around it. It's over for you mate.

[Gravy]

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Leon has put together a championship roster. Looking forward to seeing Thibs break some of those old habits and deliver the goods. He's a solid coach, just has to continue to be flexible and quicker to adapt in real-time and use his personnel.

With the team gelling, Mitch coming back, and Mikal hitting returning to being a star, we have the horses ...no team in the east has more talent than us ... We need to be in the finals.

Thibs is a very good coach. Who's better?
Pop?
Kerr?
Mazzula?
Spo?
Mazzula, others also at his level?

I hear to get to the next level we need to find a Steve Kerr - former player turned analyst with no coaching experience
Current candidates are:

JJ Reddick (after he gets fired)
Matt Barnes
Gilbert Arenas
Pat Bev
Paul Pierce
Richard Jefferson
Iman Shumpert
Melo

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This doosh really screwed himself to infinity

Fun that POS.