Warriors have a Steve Kerr problem

HiRez · Post #81 » by **HiRez** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:09 pm

Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't swap Kerr for Brown in a second if such a thing were possible? Not saying Brown would be a lock to guide them to a championship, but I feel like a lot would change for the better almost immediately.

Jester_ · Post #82 » by **Jester_** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:10 pm

jaymo123 wrote:Time to bring Mike Brown home.

biggest acquisition we could realistically make at this poitn

HiRez · Post #83 » by **HiRez** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:31 pm

Maybe Warriors and Kings should just trade coaches? Hell, we'll even cover the salary difference since it doesn't count against the cap.

CDM_Stats · Post #84 » by **CDM_Stats** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:30 pm

HiRez wrote:Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't swap Kerr for Brown in a second if such a thing were possible? Not saying Brown would be a lock to guide them to a championship, but I feel like a lot would change for the better almost immediately.

Maybe... I'd just really prefer Kerr to get it. And maybe that's the same as wishing Draymond will calm down, but I think its all we've got

I'd love to bring Brown back, but truth is the coaching room is already crowded with HC contenders. Stack and Stotts is already a lot of coaching riches

But to your point.. would Mike Brown be better? I dont know.. the problem is more about offense than defense

HiRez · Post #85 » by **HiRez** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:42 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
HiRez wrote:Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't swap Kerr for Brown in a second if such a thing were possible? Not saying Brown would be a lock to guide them to a championship, but I feel like a lot would change for the better almost immediately.

Maybe... I'd just really prefer Kerr to get it. And maybe that's the same as wishing Draymond will calm down, but I think its all we've got

I'd love to bring Brown back, but truth is the coaching room is already crowded with HC contenders. Stack and Stotts is already a lot of coaching riches

But to your point.. would Mike Brown be better? I dont know.. the problem is more about offense than defense

IDK, maybe it's more about anything to change the status quo than Mike Brown specifically. Everything about this team feels stagnant and lifeless right now. They need a shakeup in some way.

Old_Blue · Post #86 » by **Old_Blue** » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:51 pm

Jester_ wrote:
jaymo123 wrote:Time to bring Mike Brown home.

biggest acquisition we could realistically make at this poitn

What? You wouldn't rather have Gregg Popovich, Erik Spoelstra, Mike Malone, Mike Budenholzer, Kenny Atkinson, Tom Thibodeau, Nick Nurse, Rick Carlisle, Taylor Jenkins, Mark Daigneault, Quin Snyder, Chris Finch, JJ Redick, Darko Rajaković, Jordi Fernández, Frank Vogel or Luke Walton?

Crazy-Canuck · Post #87 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:43 am

CDM_Stats wrote:
HiRez wrote:Is there anyone on this board who wouldn't swap Kerr for Brown in a second if such a thing were possible? Not saying Brown would be a lock to guide them to a championship, but I feel like a lot would change for the better almost immediately.

Maybe... I'd just really prefer Kerr to get it. And maybe that's the same as wishing Draymond will calm down, but I think its all we've got

I'd love to bring Brown back, but truth is the coaching room is already crowded with HC contenders. Stack and Stotts is already a lot of coaching riches

But to your point.. would Mike Brown be better? I dont know.. the problem is more about offense than defense

Id bring brown back to work as an advisor and help with rotations.

Sandy333 · Post #88 » by **Sandy333** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:07 am

Was shocked to hear Kerr is still trying to get the rotations / combinations right. He has no concept of developing players. It was shocking to see how will everyone on the Clippers shot the the three. Every penetration lead to breakdown, and a wide open three.

weekend_warrior · Post #89 » by **weekend_warrior** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:27 am

I kinda really lost interest in the meantime. 2022 was the last honors for this group and it was pretty obvious, that something new needed to come afterwards. Kerr hasn't found that. The last 2 1/2 seasons are becoming a blur of weird rotations, no consistency and some disfunction with a hint of drama. And meanwhile it's become increasingly obvious that the solution may be found outside of him coaching this team. This current setup has treadmill written all over it.

Sandy333 · Post #90 » by **Sandy333** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:03 pm

Stop over valuing your own players and get a development coach. Get 1st round draft picks.

Big J · Post #91 » by **Big J** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:30 pm

We promised Schroeder. a starting gig when we traded for him. Cant send him to the bench now.

Mambomuziki · Post #92 » by **Mambomuziki** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:18 pm

The role players lack confidence in this team, every time they get the ball they have Kerr in their head "we have Steph Curry on this team, think think, think before you decide on your next play"
Oops TO, ooh I am running into a wall of defenders.... Another TO. Players are so timid and scared of making a mistake that they end up doing it anyway. TJD used to make plays and score in college now he gets stuck at the elbow trying to run unsuccessful split actions and before you know it 24sec v...
With these mentals might as well run isos all game and park players at their spots for C&s.

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TB · Post #93 » by TB » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:29 pm

Big J wrote:We promised Schroeder. a starting gig when we traded for him. Cant send him to the bench now.

Not a promise since it wasn't free agency, but ya basically same idea when Kerr thinks he's mental managing a hard headed player like CP3 or now Dennis. And both times its became obviously clear quickly that they shouldn't start... which ultimately backfires on Kerr's plan of hyping/buttering up these players and then has to find a way to send them to the bench with less minutes. Rather than doing the obvious right off the bat.

KevinMcreynolds · Post #94 » by **KevinMcreynolds** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:47 pm

Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

Big J · Post #95 » by **Big J** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:00 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

You'd have to have Curry sign off on getting rid of Kerr. I doubt he's doing that.

DevinVassell · Post #96 » by **DevinVassell** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:09 pm

Big J wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

You'd have to have Curry sign off on getting rid of Kerr. I doubt he's doing that.

That's rubbish.

Curry was a big Mark Jackson supporter too.

HiRez · Post #97 » by **HiRez** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:55 pm

DevinVassell wrote:
Big J wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

You'd have to have Curry sign off on getting rid of Kerr. I doubt he's doing that.

That's rubbish.

Curry was a big Mark Jackson supporter too.

That's true, I remember a lot of concern about how the change would affect Steph, how would he take it. Seems it either wasn't a problem or he kept it well hidden and it was quickly forgotten about.

Big J · Post #98 » by **Big J** » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:05 pm

DevinVassell wrote:
Big J wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

You'd have to have Curry sign off on getting rid of Kerr. I doubt he's doing that.

That's rubbish.

Curry was a big Mark Jackson supporter too.

That was before Curry had 4 rings and was a franchise icon. He’s got a much bigger say now.

Sandy333 · Post #99 » by **Sandy333** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:50 am

Big J wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:Kerr is a smug and stubborn a-hole, it’s too bad ownership/front office is afraid to get rid of him

You'd have to have Curry sign off on getting rid of Kerr. I doubt he's doing that.

Kerr has steph and draymond and vice versa.

CDM_Stats · Post #100 » by **CDM_Stats** » Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:12 am

TB wrote:
Big J wrote:We promised Schroeder. a starting gig when we traded for him. Cant send him to the bench now.

Not a promise since it wasn't free agency, but ya basically same idea when Kerr thinks he's mental managing a hard headed player like CP3 or now Dennis. And both times its became obviously clear quickly that they shouldn't start... which ultimately backfires on Kerr's plan of hyping/buttering up these players and then has to find a way to send them to the bench with less minutes. Rather than doing the obvious right off the bat.

Spot on

CP3 and Schroder are not motion players. Nor is JK, nor is TJD, and frankly nor is Moody or Waters. There are 4 guys who excel in motion (Curry/Dray/Wiggins/Looney), there are several players who look to be solid bridges between the two (SloMo, Podz, Hield) and there are some who are halfcourt guys (JK, Schroder, TJD). But Kerr doesnt deep dive like that, its a general strategy and we just hope it works out

We're a far cry from the days where the Warriors were strategically on point. Going from a then groundbreaking motion offense ran through our PF and C, switching to a hybrid offense and smallball defense to accommodate KD, and then again transitioning to a spread offense and switch heavy defense. But ever since that last title, there's been zero actual adjustment other than running what's basically an Adelman offense. Generic and stale.. but at least Adelman didnt have a lot of analytics staring him in the face saying that there's a better way. Or least I'd assume